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  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    Can’t wait to hear the first reviews!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Can’t wait to hear the first reviews!

    Hopefully tomorrow or Wednesday?
  • NickThunderballsNickThunderballs Australia
    edited September 2021 Posts: 133
    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD mods, can we please all keep spoilers either hidden or free from chat because us folks in AUS don't want to have our film spoiled by just wanting to gauge people's first thoughts.

    Excitement levels are over 9000!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2021 Posts: 15,117
    FourDot wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    I suspect Cary Fukunaga might be discourse-conscious enough to do the gunbarrel right, perhaps most importantly keeping the gun obscured during the walk.

    Then again I could be wrong. Part of me suspects the ersatz elements of the Spectre gunbarrel are more passive aggressive than incompetence.

    It's my favourite of Craig's gunbarrels- he gets the pose perfect for my money.

    The NTTD one doesn't seem to be 'right' in as far as it won't be as per the old ones: from the track on the score release it seems it's doing the thing of having the fanfare over black rather than the dots again, as Spectre did.

    Technically the last classic, stock gunbarrel was TLD so I'm not such a stickler on that front, but I think Bond keeping his gun obscured during the walk is pretty basic stuff.

    It doesn’t really bother me; there’s no reason Bond has to keep it hidden. Look at the gunbarrel in CR: his assailant can see Bond has a gun, it’s the speed of the draw that’s important.

    I’d say Goldeneye is probably the last one where everything is in the usual place, if we’re rejecting DAD for the bullet.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD mods, can we please all keep spoilers either hidden or free from chat because us folks in AUS don't want to have our film spoiled by just wanting to gauge people's first thoughts.

    Excitement levels are over 9000!

    That's what we'll be hard at work doing over the next week or two. Of course, we have lives outside the forum, so we won't be able to catch every single spoiler the second it's shared by someone who doesn't use spoiler tags. If you want to remain completely spoiler free, you might be better off avoiding the appropriate threads until release.
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    mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    I suspect Cary Fukunaga might be discourse-conscious enough to do the gunbarrel right, perhaps most importantly keeping the gun obscured during the walk.

    Then again I could be wrong. Part of me suspects the ersatz elements of the Spectre gunbarrel are more passive aggressive than incompetence.

    It's my favourite of Craig's gunbarrels- he gets the pose perfect for my money.

    The NTTD one doesn't seem to be 'right' in as far as it won't be as per the old ones: from the track on the score release it seems it's doing the thing of having the fanfare over black rather than the dots again, as Spectre did.

    Technically the last classic, stock gunbarrel was TLD so I'm not such a stickler on that front, but I think Bond keeping his gun obscured during the walk is pretty basic stuff.

    It doesn’t really bother me; there’s no reason Bond has to keep it hidden. Look at the gunbarrel in CR: his assailant can see Bond has a gun, it’s the speed of the draw that’s important.

    I’d say Goldeneye is probably the last one where everything is in the usual place, if we’re rejecting DAD for the bullet.

    Serra keeps going with the vamp rather than the core theme after the shot which is a technical conformance fail in this very important thing that matters.

    Obviously CR is different but I thought part of the concept was that the assailant is tracking Bond who then gets the jump and shoots first.

    But obviously this is a concept that has gone through so many iterations that unique elements are what make it such a curio (part of me wants to see another "presents" credit during the dots but I daresay that's about as likely as the hat coming back.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 15,117
    FourDot wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    I suspect Cary Fukunaga might be discourse-conscious enough to do the gunbarrel right, perhaps most importantly keeping the gun obscured during the walk.

    Then again I could be wrong. Part of me suspects the ersatz elements of the Spectre gunbarrel are more passive aggressive than incompetence.

    It's my favourite of Craig's gunbarrels- he gets the pose perfect for my money.

    The NTTD one doesn't seem to be 'right' in as far as it won't be as per the old ones: from the track on the score release it seems it's doing the thing of having the fanfare over black rather than the dots again, as Spectre did.

    Technically the last classic, stock gunbarrel was TLD so I'm not such a stickler on that front, but I think Bond keeping his gun obscured during the walk is pretty basic stuff.

    It doesn’t really bother me; there’s no reason Bond has to keep it hidden. Look at the gunbarrel in CR: his assailant can see Bond has a gun, it’s the speed of the draw that’s important.

    I’d say Goldeneye is probably the last one where everything is in the usual place, if we’re rejecting DAD for the bullet.

    Serra keeps going with the vamp rather than the core theme after the shot which is a technical conformance fail in this very important thing that matters.

    The vamp always plays after the shot in all of the trad versions, but he still plays the riff in the usual place after the shot. He just plays it on percussion rather than guitar; but then TLD doesn’t use guitar either.
    FourDot wrote: »
    Obviously CR is different but I thought part of the concept was that the assailant is tracking Bond who then gets the jump and shoots first.

    But obviously this is a concept that has gone through so many iterations that unique elements are what make it such a curio (part of me wants to see another "presents" credit during the dots but I daresay that's about as likely as the hat coming back.

    All we know is that it’s someone pointing a gun at Bond- CR shows that it’s not necessary for the person to think Bond is unarmed in that situation.
    I really dislike the OHMSS ‘presents’: it looks messy to my eye, as well as throwing off the timing of the music.
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    I look forward to seeing this film at the local IMAX, which is a particularly nice, huge one. However, it occurs to me that I might finally try out the headset experience - later on, when the film is released digitally. Has anyone here watched any of the earlier films in this manner ? If I understand correctly, there are two components to really doing it up right, yes ? Not only the headset for the visuals, but also a nice set of large, comfortable headphones for the audio ? Oh, and a comfortable chair. This might seem silly, since we have plenty of large flat-screens here, and it is a rather asocial manner of watching, but I like the idea of being quite immersed. Here is a technical question. If I want to watch it this way with friends, each with our head-sets and headphones, is there a way for us to watch it from a single source, so we all see and hear exactly the same at exactly the same time ?
  • leas_moleleas_mole love is the promise of suffering
    Posts: 574
    I wasn't able to watch the Japanese interview (due to my location) which was live early on Monday but I think this is it?

    1st one is a short clip




  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited September 2021 Posts: 7,527
    mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    I suspect Cary Fukunaga might be discourse-conscious enough to do the gunbarrel right, perhaps most importantly keeping the gun obscured during the walk.

    Then again I could be wrong. Part of me suspects the ersatz elements of the Spectre gunbarrel are more passive aggressive than incompetence.

    It's my favourite of Craig's gunbarrels- he gets the pose perfect for my money.

    The NTTD one doesn't seem to be 'right' in as far as it won't be as per the old ones: from the track on the score release it seems it's doing the thing of having the fanfare over black rather than the dots again, as Spectre did.

    Technically the last classic, stock gunbarrel was TLD so I'm not such a stickler on that front, but I think Bond keeping his gun obscured during the walk is pretty basic stuff.

    It doesn’t really bother me; there’s no reason Bond has to keep it hidden. Look at the gunbarrel in CR: his assailant can see Bond has a gun, it’s the speed of the draw that’s important.

    I’d say Goldeneye is probably the last one where everything is in the usual place, if we’re rejecting DAD for the bullet.

    Fair enough that TLD was the last classic gunbarrel (don't know enough about this apparently to really comment on that but I'll take your word for it). GoldenEye probably was my favourite gunbarrel (I so loved the animation added to the inside of the barrel, and there are also nostalgia reasons of course), until Casino Royale. These two films made changes to the traditional scene that were, IMO, 100% welcomed. Skyfall and QoS I don't care for as much as I don't like the gunbarrels themselves, and I don't like that they're both at the end of the films. Like they were trying to make the same point twice, he's Bond now! Oh wait, no, NOW he's Bond.
    Agreed with @mtm, Craig's part in the Spectre gunbarrel was 100%, and the gunbarrel itself really is 99%-100% for me, I for one don't even mind the text afterwards, which I understand is blasphemy here. If they replicated the Spectre gunbarrel sans text, I'd be very happy. And I'm sure it'll be quite similar, but as I said before I imagine they'll do something different with the colouring. The gunbarrel itself looks a little off (smudgy, blurry or something in the upper left where the design becomes more iconic), so maybe they'll improve that. Either way, very excited.
  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
    Posts: 469
    Just put the Q on plane shot together with the BBC audio and the right track, as well as the 'shots at work' line at the very end and it looks absolutely amazing. Of course, I can't upload it because copyright was already on us about the leaked OST but I have a hell of a lot of faith in NTTD now. Definitely seeing a return of the levity of the Brosnan era, but there is still an undercurrent of Craig seriousness lurking in there.
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    leas_mole wrote: »
    I wasn't able to watch the Japanese interview (due to my location) which was live early on Monday but I think this is it?

    1st one is a short clip




    Seydoux calling the love story the center of the film, hell yeah. Big fan of how much the press tour is emphasizing their relationship at the core of the film.
  • BMB007 wrote: »
    leas_mole wrote: »
    I wasn't able to watch the Japanese interview (due to my location) which was live early on Monday but I think this is it?

    1st one is a short clip



    Seydoux calling the love story the center of the film, hell yeah. Big fan of how much the press tour is emphasizing their relationship at the core of the film.

    Hell yeah, so looking forward to her scenes (especially with Daniel) . she is such a terrific actress !
  • mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    FourDot wrote: »
    I suspect Cary Fukunaga might be discourse-conscious enough to do the gunbarrel right, perhaps most importantly keeping the gun obscured during the walk.

    Then again I could be wrong. Part of me suspects the ersatz elements of the Spectre gunbarrel are more passive aggressive than incompetence.

    It's my favourite of Craig's gunbarrels- he gets the pose perfect for my money.

    The NTTD one doesn't seem to be 'right' in as far as it won't be as per the old ones: from the track on the score release it seems it's doing the thing of having the fanfare over black rather than the dots again, as Spectre did.

    Technically the last classic, stock gunbarrel was TLD so I'm not such a stickler on that front, but I think Bond keeping his gun obscured during the walk is pretty basic stuff.

    It doesn’t really bother me; there’s no reason Bond has to keep it hidden. Look at the gunbarrel in CR: his assailant can see Bond has a gun, it’s the speed of the draw that’s important.

    I’d say Goldeneye is probably the last one where everything is in the usual place, if we’re rejecting DAD for the bullet.

    Fair enough that TLD was the last classic gunbarrel (don't know enough about this apparently to really comment on that but I'll take your word for it). GoldenEye probably was my favourite gunbarrel (I so loved the animation added to the inside of the barrel, and there are also nostalgia reasons of course), until Casino Royale. These two films made changes to the traditional scene that were, IMO, 100% welcomed. Skyfall and QoS I don't care for as much as I don't like the gunbarrels themselves, and I don't like that they're both at the end of the films. Like they were trying to make the same point twice, he's Bond now! Oh wait, no, NOW he's Bond.
    Agreed with @mtm, Craig's part in the Spectre gunbarrel was 100%, and the gunbarrel itself really is 99%-100% for me, I for one don't even mind the text afterwards, which I understand is blasphemy here. If they replicated the Spectre gunbarrel sans text, I'd be very happy. And I'm sure it'll be quite similar, but as I said before I imagine they'll do something different with the colouring. The gunbarrel itself looks a little off (smudgy, blurry or something in the upper left where the design becomes more iconic), so maybe they'll improve that. Either way, very excited.

    Aside from CR, which was a breath of fresh air and had killer barrel design, the Craig era has surprisingly whiffed on the gunbarrel. The placement of them aren't even the primary issue, to me.

    QoS: I like that they were trying to add some realism and texture to the design but it was too dark too appreciate. The pose is alright, a little similar to Dalton, but the walk and blood drop were way too fast.

    Skyfall: Design was meh, sort of strange carbon fibre looking texture. Walk is probably the best yet, the pose is a little stiff and the blood again was way too fast.

    Spectre: Close but no cigar. Like that they brought back the traditional design, hate how static and cheap it looks. Probably his best pose and the walk was an appropriate pace but the swinging of the gun is a terrible look and takes away from the suddenness of the shot.

    So room for improvement an all fronts fot NTTD. I think Fukunaga is a little too detail oriented for us to get gunbarrels like the past 3, but only time will tell.
  • BMB007 wrote: »
    leas_mole wrote: »
    I wasn't able to watch the Japanese interview (due to my location) which was live early on Monday but I think this is it?

    1st one is a short clip




    Seydoux calling the love story the center of the film, hell yeah. Big fan of how much the press tour is emphasizing their relationship at the core of the film.
    The more I read and see, the more I get major OHMSS vibes.

    - The love story
    - Great action scenes
    - Biological weapons with the villains
    - OHMSS theme in the soundtrack
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    One of my friends went to a theatre and said they saw a featurette about the NTTD bike stunt but I’ve never even heard of such a thing. Anyone else see that?
  • DraxCucumberSandwichDraxCucumberSandwich United Kingdom
    Posts: 208
    Zarozzor wrote: »
    The more I read and see, the more I get major OHMSS vibes.

    - The love story
    - Great action scenes
    - Biological weapons with the villains
    - OHMSS theme in the soundtrack

    Also, a really cool and remote villains lair, and
    then there is the villain having a thing for Madeleine/Tracy. Also, a lot of the major action set pieces seem to involve Bond and the woman he loves being chased by and trying to escape from the villain or his goons, and the climax maybe involves Bond rescuing his woman from the clutches of the villain. Personally I hope the similarities aren’t too on the nose and that we don’t end up with a shocking character death….
  • wetnellywetnelly Nearby
    Posts: 44
    Going to wish all members of this Forum a very enjoyable week, as I’m going to attempt to go into radio silence till Thursday night.
    Am currently watching the final preparations go on at the Albert Hall!
    It’s been a long time coming but “this is it”!
  • NickThunderballsNickThunderballs Australia
    Posts: 133
    Zarozzor wrote: »
    The more I read and see, the more I get major OHMSS vibes.

    - The love story
    - Great action scenes
    - Biological weapons with the villains
    - OHMSS theme in the soundtrack

    Also, a really cool and remote villains lair, and
    then there is the villain having a thing for Madeleine/Tracy. Also, a lot of the major action set pieces seem to involve Bond and the woman he loves being chased by and trying to escape from the villain or his goons, and the climax maybe involves Bond rescuing his woman from the clutches of the villain. Personally I hope the similarities aren’t too on the nose and that we don’t end up with a shocking character death….

    I can see it already, Blofeld escapes just before midway in the film. We forgot about him entirely, and at the end when Bond and Maddy ride off into the sunset, BAM she gets shot OHMSS style the end!! Lol this would be really lazy writing
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,014
    Zarozzor wrote: »
    The more I read and see, the more I get major OHMSS vibes.

    - The love story
    - Great action scenes
    - Biological weapons with the villains
    - OHMSS theme in the soundtrack

    Also, a really cool and remote villains lair, and
    then there is the villain having a thing for Madeleine/Tracy. Also, a lot of the major action set pieces seem to involve Bond and the woman he loves being chased by and trying to escape from the villain or his goons, and the climax maybe involves Bond rescuing his woman from the clutches of the villain. Personally I hope the similarities aren’t too on the nose and that we don’t end up with a shocking character death….

    I can see it already, Blofeld escapes just before midway in the film. We forgot about him entirely, and at the end when Bond and Maddy ride off into the sunset, BAM she gets shot OHMSS style the end!! Lol this would be really lazy writing

    Which is why no way in hell it will happen.

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    I have a feeling this will go down as one of the most iconic Bond scenes.
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    Have we seen this pic? I've lost count by now.

    Novi-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig.png
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2021 Posts: 4,343
    “Praying” the film will be well received tonight.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    Univex wrote: »
    Have we seen this pic? I've lost count by now.

    Novi-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig.png

    Yes! This one has been around for a bit I believe.
  • Posts: 490
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Have we seen this pic? I've lost count by now.

    Novi-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig.png

    Yes! This one has been around for a bit I believe.

    New to me! Oof Bond better trigger discipline come on man!
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    I like the colors at play in this image. Mostly blacks and dark greys, with a lot of orange in the background. I know we tend to look for connections on here that are after-the-fact similarities not necessarily planned, but I am reminded a bit, just a bit, of the columns, characters and colors (though different ones) in the underground scene in FRWL film...by the way, considering that Indy Jones was Spielberg and Lucas doing their thing after Spielberg jones-ed (ha !) to do a Bond film: the underground scenes -- Rats ! -- in IJATLC were Bondian, yes ? As was Indy in a white dinner jacket early in IJATTOD. I know. This observation belongs into another thread, but it all comes to me from seeing the black-and-orange-Bond-leaning-against-the-column-in-an-old-city image.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited September 2021 Posts: 4,247
    matt_u wrote: »
    “Praying” the film will be well received tonight.

    Yeah. Me too. I'm seriously praying for it to be a critical hit, so it does well commercially. I'm slightly nervous, I must confess. I know it's looking good though. But I suppose my nervousness is present, because for the first time we know it's the Bond actor's final film and he won't be returning, so everything has to be impeccable. Hopefully, it will be.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
    Posts: 1,755
    When can we expect reviews to begin?
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    Wow so much press and buzz growing. I know lots of people already pre booked.

    When does the review embargo lift. 12.01 am Wednesday morning?
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