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  • BennyBenny ...OctobennyModerator
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    I’m one of the minority that places QOS lower than it achieved here. 23rd on my list. As with all Bond films I don’t hate it. But it doesn’t work for me on the whole. As a direct follow up to CR it has too many plot holes for my liking. Along with a poor script, “I can’t find the umm stationary. Will you help me look?”
    And an uninspired villains plot. I don’t think the Bolivian water supply matches that of Goldfinger contaminating the US gold supply with an atomic bomb.
    I’d rather a little more time were put into QOS and it could’ve been a decent film. One thing that does work for me is Daniel Craig. He’s been solid throughout his tenure.
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    Have always been fond of FYEO! It has a weak villain, but it is well made, with some great action scenes, the car chase and the ski set piece in particular. Highpoints are the pts (love the opener at Tracy grave) up to the pick up of Blofeld, the raid on the warehouse, and the keel hauling sequence. Melina is an unusual Bond girl, and Topol is is one of the most memorable allies!
    Its 40th anniversary this year. Must watch it soon.
  • Max_The_ParrotMax_The_Parrot ATAC to St Cyril’s
    Posts: 2,302
    Poor Roger, all hopes now rest on Spy and Die!
    I’ve no idea who's rating Thunderball so high!
    (It’s a rhyming couplet) *giggle*
  • Slazenger7Slazenger7 Gothenburg, Sweden
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    A bit surprised to see FYEO already. I thought that one was a very popular entry. The competition is getting tougher for sure, but before License to Kill and Golden Eye, really? It’s my second favorite Roger-movie and my favorite from the 80’s, #8th place overall.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I had FYEO at #8. It's definitely a very good Bond film for me. But I can see it being an "acquired taste". The comedy may not sit well with everybody, and it's one of the more toned-down films in terms of action and spectacle. That said, the ski + bobsled sequence is one of the most kinetic chases in the series IMO. Conti's score had to grow on me too. I hated it when I first heard it aeons ago. But now, it's sitting fine in this film. And Moore is excellent here, I think.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Oh no, FYEO already? I guess I'm one of it's biggest advocates, ranking it at 6th. It's one of Roger's best performances for sure.

    I actually think the score works well throughout most of the film, with a few exceptions, but I can understand how it's not for everyone. The humor let's you know it's still a Moore film but perhaps it's tonally jarring at times. That never bothered me either. There's a lot to love here. Even a delicatessen in stainless steel.
  • Slazenger7Slazenger7 Gothenburg, Sweden
    Posts: 739
    I like Contis score but the movie would of course be even better with a solid Barry-score. Sheena Eastons theme however is one of my absolute favorites in the series.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Usually at 10th spot for me. This time? 9th. I love everything here, including what others usually pick apart: the PTS comedy, music, underwater scenes. This is one of those Bond films that slows down noticeably at the finale, but at least there is some real 'tension' during the rock climb.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Poor Roger, all hopes now rest on Spy and Die!
    I’ve no idea who's rating Thunderball so high!
    (It’s a rhyming couplet) *giggle*

    As a matter of fact, I had TB just behind FYEO.

    FYEO is a fun movie, but it does have lengths. I cannot stand the unnecessary ice skater storyline, both Bibi and her trainer are out of place here, and so is the attack with hockey sticks.
    On the other hand, what is not to love about the terrific ski chase, the unusual climbing sequence, the fun car chase (if a 2CV qualifies as a car), the beautiful settings and a slighty too old Moore in top form?
  • BennyBenny ...OctobennyModerator
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    I have FYEO at #9 so sadly much lower than I would rank it. Quite surprised at this, as it’s a pretty solid entry with very few of the silliness of the 70’s outings.
    Moore in particular plays it quite straight and almost avuncular throughout.
    A pity it doesn’t rank higher.
    I’m thinking something like LTK or maybe LALD will be next. Possibly TB.
    I’ll prefer LTK as the other two are top 10 for me.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 6,161
    For Your Eyes Only is ranked 16th on my list, so I have it a bit lower than the average here.

    There's very little wrong with it, and it's a welcome change of tack after MR. It's just not one of my favourites.
  • FYEO was 14th for me this time, one ahead of YOLT. It would have been quite a bit higher but my most recent rewatch of it wasn’t quite as enjoyable. It has perhaps the finest collection of action stunt work in the series and I appreciate that it’s more grounded than what came before, but I had forgotten just how tonally uneven it is (probably the worst of Glen’s movies in that regard) and it almost feels like a collection of loosely related sketches at times than a cohesive narrative. From that lens the PTS didn’t actually feel quite so out of place this time around though! There’s plenty of really good stuff in the film, I just wish it were a bit more even of an experience.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Digitalia
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    Same as in the tournament thread. I used to rank it much higher, maybe due to nostalgia as it was my first Bond film and we all know what a thrilling experience that is. Sadly I now rank it much lower. What s good is very good, but its weak parts really drag it down.
  • Max_The_ParrotMax_The_Parrot ATAC to St Cyril’s
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    What s good is very good, but its weak parts really drag it down.

    You’re right, it really needed more Max the Parrot ... :-?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Digitalia
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    What s good is very good, but its weak parts really drag it down.

    You’re right, it really needed more Max the Parrot ... :-?

    Definitely.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Defender of Timothy Dalton, George Lazenby, Éric Serra & Bond '83!
    Posts: 5,259
    I think FYEO is the one Bond film that my opinion has changed the most about. I used to dismiss it as a lesser version of TLD. Inoffensive but also a bit forgettable.

    Now it has grown on me to the point that I've put it in 6th. It could have been 5th as well to be honest. It's a tight Cold War thriller, with great locations, fantastic action, funky music and fun characters. Carole Bouquet is a firm favourite here btw.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    FYEO is a top ten film for me. Its strengh are obviously the action sequences. My favourite one is the rock climbing: there isn't another Roger scene with so much tension. Bond seems to be in real danger for once. Breathtaking. Great.
    The car chase and the ski chase are also outstanding action scenes and Columbo is one of the best allies. Topol plays him extremely likeable. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about Bouquet. She acts like a piece of ice (if this makes any sense
    ;)
  • FYEO has yo-yoed a fair bit in my rankings over the years. I think at one point long ago, back before Craig even, I may have had it as high as #4. There's a lot to love: sharks, rock-climbing stunts, Locque, the 80s factor, that ski chase. But there are definitely some aspects that don't work too well. It has previously dropped fairly low for me (into the high teens) and now is pretty much roughly where it landed in this communal ranking, which is still very high quality Bond for me.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited April 17 Posts: 4,223
    Benny wrote: »
    I’m one of the minority that places QOS lower than it achieved here. 23rd on my list. As with all Bond films I don’t hate it. But it doesn’t work for me on the whole. As a direct follow up to CR it has too many plot holes for my liking. Along with a poor script, “I can’t find the umm stationary. Will you help me look?”
    And an uninspired villains plot. I don’t think the Bolivian water supply matches that of Goldfinger contaminating the US gold supply with an atomic bomb.
    I’d rather a little more time were put into QOS and it could’ve been a decent film. One thing that does work for me is Daniel Craig. He’s been solid throughout his tenure.

    I agree. QoS is...not great. The editing is the obvious problem but many of the characters (save Bond and Camille) are severely underwritten.

    I am surprised that FYEO is so low because of all of its Fleming elements. But if I'm honest I enjoy OP a lot more than FYEO, as it appears that Roger did.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    I had FYEO at number 8 (right below TSWLM, in fact).

    My appreciation for FYEO has consistently risen over the years and even the Bill Conti score – which I used to hate (with a passion!) now seems to work for me. I particularly like Moore’s performance here: mature and understated. And like many of you, I really like the character of Colombo (Topol: ♫ ….If I were a rich man ♫). BTW: its’ about time we have a real solid ally in a Bond film IMO.
    And dare I say it…..but I really like Carole Bouquet.

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    ….but to each his own. :))
  • BennyBenny ...OctobennyModerator
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    I really like Carole Bouquet in FYEO. She’s understandably only focused on avenging the murder of her parents.
    I like her drive and motivation, instead of being the normal Bond girl.
    Only when the mission and her own mission are complete, does she show any interest in Bond or letting down her guard.
    I think it would’ve worked if Bond and Melina didn’t get romantically involved. But it was an 80’s Bond film and that would’ve been too shocking for audiences at the time. Even the ending we get works for me.
    It’s got some great characters and a very good tense story. FYEO should be a top ten film IMO.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Defender of Timothy Dalton, George Lazenby, Éric Serra & Bond '83!
    Posts: 5,259
    Great to see more Carole Bouquet support out there. Moving on to the next one:

    STARRING
    Timothy Dalton as James Bond 007

    WITH
    Carey Lowell, Robert Davi, Talisa Soto & Benicio Del Toro

    LICENCE TO KILL

    MUSIC BY Michael Kamen
    DIRECTED BY John Glen

    licence-to-kill-us-lobby-card-2.jpg

    Always thought LTK would appear to be more divisive, but with only three bottom 5's, of which one 23rd spot was its lowest finish, not many of our distinguished Academy seem to really dislike it.

    It has a few very loyal fans too. It collected one gold medal, one bronze medal and came in 4th on one more occasion. Other than that, 8 more top 10 spots and 11 more top 15 finishes were noted as well.

    LTK ended up with 154 points in total.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 10,832
    'His bad side is a dangerous place to be.'

    It's fascinating to watch Bond turn Franz 'all about loyalty' Sanchez against his own men. Not to mention Bond smoking cigarettes. This one usually hovers around 10th place on my list, but never right on, until now.

    Dalton got two epic sniper scenes - something I hope to see again soon.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Digitalia
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    Another that it always somewhere in the middle. Good, not great.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 30,170
    14 for me.
  • Slazenger7Slazenger7 Gothenburg, Sweden
    Posts: 739
    #18th place. It’s more like a Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, True Lies kind of action movie than a Bond movie. Sanchez is a great villain though.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 18,983
    #11 for me, simply because there are 10 films in the series that I rank higher. Nevertheless, LTK is one of my favourites in the series, a bold and dark film that the world clearly wasn't ready for yet in '89 but has come to appreciate, it seems, in recent times. Dalton remains my favourite Bond as well, and his portrayal of the character in this film, though arguably a slight bit controversial, feels extremely close to Fleming. I love the action in the film as well as the revenge story. The bar fight and Q's field trip (a different film within this film) are unfortunate lows for me. But overall, I'm a fan of LTK.
  • BennyBenny ...OctobennyModerator
    Posts: 11,242
    It’s #14 for me. Though at any given time it could go higher. Certainly not lower. I always feel guilty placing it as a middle entry, but then I look at those above it.
    A very good and enjoyable Bond film .
  • Posts: 3,135
    Way too low! (How is bloody GE not appeared yet???)
    One of the best in the series! A solid story, well told, Dalton and Davi are tremendous foils, Carey Lowell wonderful, great theme song from Gladys Knight and the best action sequences since OHMSS!
    Disappointed it hasn't got into the top ten, though I suspected it the way things are going!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 18,983
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Way too low! (How is bloody GE not appeared yet???)
    One of the best in the series! A solid story, well told, Dalton and Davi are tremendous foils, Carey Lowell wonderful, great theme song from Gladys Knight and the best action sequences since OHMSS!
    Disappointed it hasn't got into the top ten, though I suspected it the way things are going!

    Hold on, now, no need to get personal. ;-)
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