Christopher Nolan - Appreciation Thread

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @Pierce2Daniel If Tenet does open this July, there are plenty of choices you can do to avoid sitting with strangers: 1. wear a face mask, 2. go to showings at hours where attendance with be low ; when you factor in the limited allowed capacity, you will practically have the cinema to yourself.

    I have already ordered several movie tickets myself for next week once cinemas reopen in France. Online orders obviously, to limit my contact with cinema workers while the pandemic is ongoing.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    @Pierce2Daniel it is an awesome shot.
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    Nolan proving to be the Tory he is.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Nolan proving to be the Tory he is.

    What he’s doing is something that James Cameron would do basically letting his ego show. I didn’t think Christopher Nolan had an ego compared to James Cameron.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Nolan proving to be the Tory he is.

    What he’s doing is something that James Cameron would do basically letting his ego show. I didn’t think Christopher Nolan had an ego compared to James Cameron.

    I can't even be mad at Nolan...I wanna be, but dang I'm just so excited for Tenet.




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    Pattinson is seriously giving me the eye here...so gutted that he couldn't be Bond. Nonetheless, he's looking terrific as Bruce Wayne here. Also, Elizabeth Debicki has been threatening to join the A-list for a while. I noticed she really popped in Great Gatsby. Though her performance in widows for me was the best thing about that film (aside from the ever reliable Daniel Kaluuya and Brian Tyree Henry).

    Debicki seems to embody many of the qualities of the icy blonde of Hitchock's films...she's very striking in that model-esque way in that she's slightly unusual looking but captivating.

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  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    New release date for Tenet in Italy: August 3 instead of September 18.

    It looks like Nolan doesn’t care about Tenet being “successful”, instead he wants to be remembered as the one who saves theaters and movie chains.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I’m loving everything I’m seeing of this although I am worried about Elizabeth’s character. She looks great, but I’m worried her character might fall into certain stereotypical traps. We’ve already seen her be a bit of a damsel in distress and female characters aren’t Nolan’s strong point. I’m hoping I’ll be pleasantly surprised though :)

    Now EON would give her a cool role as a Bond girl, and she was a great villain in The Man From UNCLE and Cloverfield Paradox.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Maybe she's playing someone's wife and the twist is that she was dead all along.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Maybe she's playing someone's wife and the twist is that she was dead all along.
    Haha I wouldn’t put it past him haha :D
    I am very intrigued by Aaron Taylor-Johnson’s character (no surprise), but in all seriousness, apart from that one shot of him, his role is quite mysterious, and it’ll be interesting to see what side he’s on.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    That explosion shot looks really cool.
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    This might answer that question...


    Denbigh wrote: »
    Maybe she's playing someone's wife and the twist is that she was dead all along.
    Haha I wouldn’t put it past him haha :D
    I am very intrigued by Aaron Taylor-Johnson’s character (no surprise), but in all seriousness, apart from that one shot of him, his role is quite mysterious, and it’ll be interesting to see what side he’s on.

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Ooo interesting thanks @antovolk
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    It is an excellent trailer.

    That worries me. I have been misled by excellent trailers before.
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    Nolan proving to be the Tory he is.

    Jeez...the outcry on Twitter over Tenet opening in July is ridiculous.

    So many thinkpieces spreading saying 'Christopher Nolan is a Menace to Society' and op-ed's pleading for people not to return to cinemas.

    Look, if you don't want to go. Then the answer is simple: Don't Go.

    I imagine that many who will attend, will do so responsibly. If there are people being irresponsible in cinemas, then it's incumbent of the theatre staff to handle these situations accordingly.

    In actual fact, I think the principal reason people are getting up in arms is a concern that they want to see Tenet first and want to ruin everyone's fun. They don't want to see Tenet with the great unwashed masses and would rather wait. Which is fair enough. So they are prepared to wait. However, they know the film will get spoiled for them online.

    If that's your deal. Then I get it. But the answer to that problem is simple: Stay off the internet.

    If that's impossible for you, then I feel sorry for you. You don't have to virtue signal and make this to do with the coronavirus and your concern for public safety. I don't see the same people bemoaning and protesting the government to shut down Oxford Street.

    For example, on the movie blogs there is zero fury over the Mulan film (which opens first) because no one cares and the film's buzz is dead. But all the folk moaning about Tenet are just desperate to see it and want to ensure those of us who can act responsibly can't as well.

    If you think being responsible means not going to see Tenet in August. Then, don't go.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Cinemas in New York will not reopen until Mid-August at the earliest.

    https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Malls-gyms-movie-theaters-won-t-open-in-New-15360768.php

    Is this sadly the final nail in the coffin for Tenet to come out this summer? At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it takes WW84's October release date.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Honestly, it makes no sense to open in July. Nolan will have to let go of his cinema savior complex.
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    German cinemas are said to fully reopen in July. I´m not a Nolan worshipper, but I would actually like to see Tenet asap.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Cinemas reopened in France this Monday. I went to see a film twice already (Monday evening and Tuesday evening), and what used to be a very crowded time has been amazingly empty. I saw less people enter the lobby for every showings combined than for 1 normal summer showing pre-coronavirus. How WB and Nolan expect to release a $200+ million budget film in such conditions, I don't understand.
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    Seeming like another delay is inevitable. Have to wonder how long this will go on for.
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    I must admit that I am hyped though...even if I thought Dunkirk was right-wing nonsense
    What was right-wing about Dunkirk? Are you suggesting that the historical evacuation of British Armed Forces was somehow in support of Hitler, or that because the British opposed the German National Socialists, that they were themselves the actual bad guys? Or was it the use of the British Union flag that you found right-wing? It's unclear what you mean in that throwaway remark.

    With regards to Tenent, juding by the trailer, it's looking like an early draft of Inception that's been repurposed to fashion a new movie. For the time being, I remain pessimistically optimistic, as I do with No Time To Die.
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    bondsum wrote: »
    I must admit that I am hyped though...even if I thought Dunkirk was right-wing nonsense
    What was right-wing about Dunkirk? Are you suggesting that the historical evacuation of British Armed Forces was somehow in support of Hitler, or that because the British opposed the German National Socialists, that they were themselves the actual bad guys? Or was it the use of the British Union flag that you found right-wing? It's unclear what you mean in that throwaway remark.

    With regards to Tenent, juding by the trailer, it's looking like an early draft of Inception that's been repurposed to fashion a new movie. For the time being, I remain pessimistically optimistic, as I do with No Time To Die.

    You're right that my remark was a bit cavalier. It needs more explanation:
    • When I saw Dunkirk in 2017 it felt like the wrong time for the film. I was in Hackney and the cinema audience were skeptical. It was post-Brexit and there was a general sense that that the film encapsulated many of the notions espoused by the Vote Leave campaign. There's a good Guardian article on this here.
    • The idea of Britain being an underdog, down but not out, willing to risk it all, go it alone, not needing Europe, stiff upper-lip, taking back control, etc.
    • I even recall Fox News running some loving segments on the film and its portrayal of national pride, Nigel Farage tweeted a photo of himself standing next to the poster and Nolan himself wrote an op-ed in The Telegraph (which may cement @Benjamin_Weekly69 theory).

    That's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion. Though I'll admit to being only 26 when I first saw it and I haven't seen it since. I was, and still am, a committed remoaner as well. But like most people, 2020 has made us get over 2016. I have to give Dunkirk a re-watch and leave my politics at the door. Hopefully, I will hopefully do so in time for Tenet!
    Cinemas reopened in France this Monday. I went to see a film twice already (Monday evening and Tuesday evening), and what used to be a very crowded time has been amazingly empty. I saw less people enter the lobby for every showings combined than for 1 normal summer showing pre-coronavirus. How WB and Nolan expect to release a $200+ million budget film in such conditions, I don't understand.

    Very interesting!

    As soon as tickets go on sale for Tenet, I will be buying mine for the IMAX! Hopefully in Waterloo as I've never been before!

    Also, some new photos from a book coming on Tenet. The snap of JDW and Pattinson in the room is bloody beautiful!

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Chinese cinemas could remain closed nation-wide until October 1st at the earliest.

    https://deadline.com/2020/06/china-movie-theaters-no-re-opening-timetable-cannes-1202968332/

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    Many US states still have no timetable to reopen all cinemas in July.

    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/when-will-phase-3-of-reopening-begin-in-massachusetts/2147527/

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    How can Tenet open in such conditions? The 2 biggest single box-office markets are looking to remain closed for the foreseeable future.
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    Okay, thanks @Pierce2Daniel. I now get the gist of what you're implying. You were drawing a comparison between a not-so-distant past event against a ruthless totalitarian regime and a present-day European Federalist authority and Britain's stance against both under the guise that to be against the current European Federalists and wanting autonomy that makes you somehow far-right and therefore the movie must have been a well-timed piece of propaganda to coincide with it—Correct?

    Regardless of the fact that this movie was actually made for the purposes of international release and not aimed solely at the UK box office; a foreign market who probably would not have cared less about the UK referendum results in the same way that you seem to have been so bitterly affected by.

    I must add, that's rather a leap of logic to make and an oversimplified view of a movie that was being released in preperation for the 80th Anniversary where 68,000 allied soldiers were either killed, wounded, went missing, or were captured—and a European Federalist authority that's deeply unpopular even beyond our own shores today. I did actually go see this movie in the cinema, and whilst I thought its production wasn't particularly convincing in its protrayal of the 850 private boats that sailed from Ramsgate to Dunkirk, or the 300,000 allied soldiers stranded on the beaches, I never for one single moment saw the same pareidolia that you saw in this movie. Perhaps, one can see a likeness of Jesus in the clouds if one is so inclined?

    I didn't bother reading The Guardian piece as they're no longer a credible news source. They just now play host to opinions written by Islingtonista columnists or wealthy interns on sub-zero contracts, having sacked the majority of their real investigative journalists a long time ago due to their declining profits. You might as well read any old left-wing biased blog as it has as much credence as The Guardian has nowadays.

    Of course, you're perfectly entitled to believe whatever you want. But for me and many other like-minded people, this movie was just another modern re-telling of a true wartime event, much like Saving Private Ryan, Flags of Our Fathers, and Hacksaw Ridge were to many others, aimed at educating those that were either blissfully ignorant of the huge sacrifice made by these men, or who were never taught it at school and want to learn more about the subject now. And before you say Saving Private Ryan wasn't based on a true event, oh yes it was. It was based on an actual soldier named Fritz Niland. I guess, Saving Private Fritz didn't have the same ring about it, though.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    New York has just canceled its annual marathon 4 months before the event was due to happen (November 1st).
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    New York has just canceled its annual marathon 4 months before the event was due to happen (November 1st).

    Was there to be a tie-in with a screening of Tenet?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins, The Prestige and Inception will stream for free on Fortnite on June 26th.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Sadly, I feel that we won't get any films till Xmas or even 2021. Just look at the below graph. It seems clear to me that, whilst Europe has improved their situation considerably, the USA is struggling. In fact, the situation in the States is worse now than ever before.

    Tenet will move. Even moving to October/November is probably too ambitious as it's only 4 months time. I anticipate some big sweeping changes to the release calendar as the film industry needs the domestic box office to survive, something it won't have till a vaccine by the looks of things.

    Sadly, the management of the virus has not worked out in an international setting. So basically we get no movies in theatres this year. Whilst cinemas may open in Europe next month, Hollywood studios won't be releasing their blockbuster films till the marketplace is healthy.

    Sadly this means we probably don't get Tenet....or even NTTD this year.

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    We're so very screwed.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited June 2020 Posts: 15,690
    New York officially delays the reopening of movie theaters until late July at the earliest.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-postpones-reopenings-of-malls-movie-theaters-and-gyms-11593033187

    That's it for Tenet I guess. When on earth can they delay it to?
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