No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I think for a gap of this length we really should have gotten a new Bond. Doesn't make sense, they didn't bring Dalton back after the 6 year hiatus and he only did 2 movies until then. I think Craig we seem like old news by the time Bond 25 is finally released. It would have better to bring in someone new, and that would have brought much more interest and excitement.

    And all the delays from that point onward were unexpected and had nothing to do with Craig. From that point onward, he was never going to go away.

    I could buy this more if the series hadn't gone almost thirty years between 1962 and 1989 with no gaps longer than 3 years inbetween. My point is if they wanted to give Craig another film and end on a high, then they should have set a 2018 release date and got straight on with it. It doesn't make sense to bring back an actor for one more film and then wait so long to even get the gears rolling.

    You can bitch about Craig all you like the fact is that another Bond is long off and yes the longer it goes on your beloved Aidan's chances are slipping away.

    Seriously your broken record is tiring, if I didn't know better I'd think you are enjoying the predicament of this film the unfortunate situation that we are in, somehow thinking that in some twisted way it will lead to Aidan Turner being cast as Bond.

    Sorry mate but the longer this goes on Turner will fall out of favour and become the new Clive Owen which he already is looking like anyway.
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    Hi guys. I need your help. I think I saw a picture of Moneypenny, Q (possibly) and Nomi entering M's office. Nomi was wearing the same reddish jacket she wears in the prison scene with Madeleine.
    My problem is I can't remember if it was in a trailer/tv spot or a production still. If someone could find it, it would be most appreciated.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited April 2020 Posts: 11,759
    It's from the NBA All-Star game TV spot, 22 seconds in.

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    Yes. It's this one. Thanks
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    QBranch wrote: »
    It's from the NBA All-Star game TV spot, 22 seconds in.

    I1ZEpMm.jpg

    Scooby gang is back in town.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited April 2020 Posts: 9,344
    Saved for another time.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 3,880
    I didn't see M, Q & Moneypenny in Safin's Lair....which means the 'Scooby Gang' will not be as prominent as they were in SP. But Moneypenny's choice of clothing in that pic, further confirms that they're indeed the 'Scooby Gang'.
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    I must say I'm really liking Ralph Fiennes' M look in this new film. He looks classic to me. Very old school as if he could have lived in Fleming's era. Look how tight is hair is tapered.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I must say I'm really liking Ralph Fiennes' M look in this new film. He looks classic to me. Very old school as if he could have lived in Fleming's era. Look how tight is hair is tapered.

    I think Ralph Fiennes should stay for the next Bond. He’s fun, and not as overexposed as Judi Dench.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I must say I'm really liking Ralph Fiennes' M look in this new film. He looks classic to me. Very old school as if he could have lived in Fleming's era. Look how tight is hair is tapered.

    I think Ralph Fiennes should stay for the next Bond. He’s fun, and not as overexposed as Judi Dench.

    I agree. I think they should recast the rest of the whitehall brigade though. Especially Tanner.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I must say I'm really liking Ralph Fiennes' M look in this new film. He looks classic to me. Very old school as if he could have lived in Fleming's era. Look how tight is hair is tapered.

    I think Ralph Fiennes should stay for the next Bond. He’s fun, and not as overexposed as Judi Dench.

    I agree. I think they should recast the rest of the whitehall brigade though. Especially Tanner.

    I agree wholeheartedly, but I think we should keep Ben Whishaw as Q, and write more Bill Tanner scenes. He's one of James Bond's best friends, they should really show it. Same with Felix Leiter, outside LTK, of course.
  • MaxCasino wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I must say I'm really liking Ralph Fiennes' M look in this new film. He looks classic to me. Very old school as if he could have lived in Fleming's era. Look how tight is hair is tapered.

    I think Ralph Fiennes should stay for the next Bond. He’s fun, and not as overexposed as Judi Dench.

    I agree. I think they should recast the rest of the whitehall brigade though. Especially Tanner.

    I agree wholeheartedly, but I think we should keep Ben Whishaw as Q, and write more Bill Tanner scenes. He's one of James Bond's best friends, they should really show it. Same with Felix Leiter, outside LTK, of course.

    Rory Kinnear's Tanner doesn't come across as a friend of Bond's, Michael Kitchen's Tanner did, certainly in GoldenEye.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    @MaxCasino @BonSimonLeBon_1 I agree with you both. I thought about keeping Whishaw on as Q but I really feel all these characters are closely related to Craig's Bond, and should all be replaced for that reason. Except Fiennes for whatever reason.

    Kitchen was the absolute best. They need to recast Tanner as someone who has some chemistry with the actor who plays Bond.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I must say I'm really liking Ralph Fiennes' M look in this new film. He looks classic to me. Very old school as if he could have lived in Fleming's era. Look how tight is hair is tapered.

    I think Ralph Fiennes should stay for the next Bond. He’s fun, and not as overexposed as Judi Dench.

    I agree. I think they should recast the rest of the whitehall brigade though. Especially Tanner.

    I agree wholeheartedly, but I think we should keep Ben Whishaw as Q, and write more Bill Tanner scenes. He's one of James Bond's best friends, they should really show it. Same with Felix Leiter, outside LTK, of course.

    Yeah, it's a shame. In the books Tanner's described as one of Bond's only "friends," and certainly his only one on the service.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    I might be in the minority but i want them to start fresh with completely new cast.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Speaking of Corona. Interview with Jeffrey Wright on CNN right now, he's raising money and helping people with food, etc, in New York. Interview might be available in a few hours or so.

    And D Craig is helping out


  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2020 Posts: 8,812
    Escalus5 wrote: »
    Sorry to pick your argument apart, but Dalton was offered to return, but he only wanted to make one film, something Cubby didn’t agree with. He wanted Dalton to return for 5, as Dalton only had done two at that point.

    Actually, you're both correct.

    Although Dalton told Broccoli that he only wanted to do one more, MGM/UA had no intention of hiring him for GE even if Broccoli had agreed to it. They wanted a new Bond.

    That's always the version that rings truest to me. If you're relaunching the series you want a new Bond for the maximum amount of audience interest, even ignoring how much a perceived failure Dalton was. It's what Eon did with CR, after all.

    QBranch wrote: »
    It's from the NBA All-Star game TV spot, 22 seconds in.

    I1ZEpMm.jpg

    Funny how rarely we see Moneypenny in M's office. Off the top of my head I can think of From Russia With Love and GoldenEye and that's about it... any more?
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I must say I'm really liking Ralph Fiennes' M look in this new film. He looks classic to me. Very old school as if he could have lived in Fleming's era. Look how tight is hair is tapered.

    I think Ralph Fiennes should stay for the next Bond. He’s fun, and not as overexposed as Judi Dench.

    I agree. I think they should recast the rest of the whitehall brigade though. Especially Tanner.

    I agree wholeheartedly, but I think we should keep Ben Whishaw as Q, and write more Bill Tanner scenes. He's one of James Bond's best friends, they should really show it. Same with Felix Leiter, outside LTK, of course.

    Rory Kinnear's Tanner doesn't come across as a friend of Bond's, Michael Kitchen's Tanner did, certainly in GoldenEye.

    Although it did rankle with me that he called him 'Tanner' rather than 'Bill'.
    I remember being very pleasantly surprised to see Kitchen in it: I'd recently seen him in a production of King Lear and he gave the most delicious Edmund- it was a real thrill to see him pop up in Bond! I think Kitchen was playing him as Bond's friend but Brosnan wasn't, weirdly.
    I think the version of their relationship that Craig's Bond has rings true: he doesn't really have much time for chummy friendships and Kinnear's Tanner isn't his type of bloke anyway- he's a bit dorky. He's more likely to have a genuine friendship with Moneypenny as they actually have a bit of a more real connection than any version of Bond has had with 'Penny before. Maybe because she used to be a field agent. They're more on the same level.
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    mtm wrote: »

    Funny how rarely we see Moneypenny in M's office. Off the top of my head I can think of From Russia With Love and GoldenEye and that's about it... any more?

    That's a very good point, @mtm And as I think about it, Moneypenny isn't even in M's office in GoldenEye - she's there in the "situation room" with the wall screens, but it's only Bond that we see in M's office (where she delivers the famous "sexist, misogynist dinosaur" quote). So I think we might be down to one scene in the whole series?
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    This interesting article written by Hollywood insiders suggests that MGM's fate hinges on getting the NTTD release right:
    https://theankler.com/p/the-nouvelle-plague

    I think we are in a very interesting time with this virus. It looks as though social distancing will be the norm and we will have to live with the virus once the reproduction level decreases. Does this mean theatres will only have 40% capacity? That means NTTD's box office will be severely dented.

    What will MGM decide? Piracy has been rampant during self-isolation. So a home release seems futile as it wouldn't cover costs. I think if there was ever a time for a streamer to acquire MGM it's now. We know that Apple and Netflix were talking to MGM prior to the pandemic:

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    Wow, Scooby gang, Q on the field with a portable Q-lab with Q-mugs for his Q-tea.

    :-B

    Sorry, not happy about this. Not one bit. But hey, there'll be plenty of other good stuff in the film, I suppose. I just think Moore's Bond isn't compatible with Craig's Bond. But if they want to make a mix-it-all last film, what can ya do, right?
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    edited April 2020 Posts: 280
    Why they can't just keep the MI6 regulars behind the desks instead of turning them into the Super-Friends, I'll never know.
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    Agent_One wrote: »
    Why they can't just keep the MI6 regulars behind the desks instead of turning them into the Super-Friends, I'll never know.

    Simple, the likes of Fiennes and Whishaw and Harris wouldn't sign on in the first place if they were just stuck behind desks for 5 mins (unless the payday for those 5 mins is really really really good)
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    antovolk wrote: »
    Agent_One wrote: »
    Why they can't just keep the MI6 regulars behind the desks instead of turning them into the Super-Friends, I'll never know.

    Simple, the likes of Fiennes and Whishaw and Harris wouldn't sign on in the first place if they were just stuck behind desks for 5 mins (unless the payday for those 5 mins is really really really good)

    True, makes me wonder why Grace Jones really left NTTD....maybe the pay wasn't that huge for the Cameo, even if she wanted more screentime.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2020 Posts: 8,812
    mtm wrote: »

    Funny how rarely we see Moneypenny in M's office. Off the top of my head I can think of From Russia With Love and GoldenEye and that's about it... any more?

    That's a very good point, @mtm And as I think about it, Moneypenny isn't even in M's office in GoldenEye - she's there in the "situation room" with the wall screens, but it's only Bond that we see in M's office (where she delivers the famous "sexist, misogynist dinosaur" quote). So I think we might be down to one scene in the whole series?

    I'm pretty sure Bond finds Moneypenny in M's office in GoldenEye and they walk to the situation room from there, don't they?

    We see her going in Golden Gun (and maybe other ones) but I can't think of any other times we see her in there.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
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    Dench was a bigger star than all of them, yet she spent most of her films in a comparatively minor role.
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    Agent_One wrote: »
    Dench was a bigger star than all of them, yet she spent most of her films in a comparatively minor role.

    True. For most of the time, at least.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited April 2020 Posts: 3,880
    I think it was inevitable....once the Characters were Absent in CR & QoS, EON felt the need to give them more screentime, considering their absence. But I think why we notice their presence as being too much is, their presence doesn't add to much to the peril on Screen. Maybe if Moneypenny or Q had to visit a Huge Museum or a Tech-Building to receive something for Mi6, but unknown to them, an impostor is waiting for them....then Bond has to race against time to save them. Or maybe M has a Car chase for once & escapes nefarious agents on his way from an official meeting.

    The reason M, Q & Moneypenny worked from Connery-Brosnan was since they weren't adding much to the Plot, we only see them in the films' beginning....and the Bond is left alone & we have to worry for him, even if we know he always wins.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
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    Even in Spectre, I liked Q going out in the field ala LTK. It was the London finale where the overuse of the regulars was a real problem.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Agent_One wrote: »
    Even in Spectre, I liked Q going out in the field ala LTK. It was the London finale where the overuse of the regulars was a real problem.

    Yeah, I think that's because it wasn't done properly. I don't want any of them in the field, but if they must appear....the director should do it with a touch of class. Let's compare that to the tense finale in Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation. It wasn't as action-packed as SP's finale....but that scene was gripping & concluded with the Glitzy Capture of Solomon Lane. Another Good Example, is how Joel Schumacher handled Commissioner Gordon & how Christopher Nolan Handled him....and Nolan's take was obviously Better.
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