NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Critical Reaction and Box Office Performance

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  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited February 2020 Posts: 3,126
    RC7 wrote: »

    Have you seen the trailer?
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    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,009
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    You're an absolute bore.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited February 2020 Posts: 3,126
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    You're an absolute bore.

    @jake24 @Benny @Birdleson here we go again more name calling
  • RC7RC7
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    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    You're an absolute bore.

    I think you mean bellend.
  • Posts: 309
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    Careful, your true colors are showing.



  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited February 2020 Posts: 3,126
    RC7 wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    You're an absolute bore.

    I think you mean bellend.

    @RC7 really? What people do we have on here my God.
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    Careful, your true colors are showing.



    @Burgess now you guys are just being bullies. There is a reason I don't even want to be associated with the fans and here is one reason why.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,882
    Knock it off, all of you! Take it to pms, or elsewase, but either way, get back on topic.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,000
    The idea that BIRDS OF PREY is a “woke” film just because it’s female centric is rather over the top.
  • It will be interesting to see how the coronavirus will impact film release dates and box office numbers in China and affected countries. Without China, would NTTD even have a chance at breaking $1 billion in worldwide receipts?
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    It will be interesting to see how the coronavirus will impact film release dates and box office numbers in China and affected countries. Without China, would NTTD even have a chance at breaking $1 billion in worldwide receipts?

    Joker showed that there is a path to 1 billion without China. While not insignificant, China’s contribution to Skyfall and Spectre are no where near that of, say, the last Fast and the Furious films. F9 and Black Widow will take a huge hit if the Chinese market doesn’t open back up in time.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited February 2020 Posts: 8,009
    RC7 wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    You're an absolute bore.

    I think you mean bellend.

    I'm too polite for my own good sometimes.
    The idea that BIRDS OF PREY is a “woke” film just because it’s female centric is rather over the top.

    Having seen the film, I can confirm that such a notion is blatantly false.
    Burgess wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see how the coronavirus will impact film release dates and box office numbers in China and affected countries. Without China, would NTTD even have a chance at breaking $1 billion in worldwide receipts?

    Joker showed that there is a path to 1 billion without China. While not insignificant, China’s contribution to Skyfall and Spectre are no where near that of, say, the last Fast and the Furious films. F9 and Black Widow will take a huge hit if the Chinese market doesn’t open back up in time.

    I think you may be right. What was the box office take for SP in China, just out of curiosity? Anyone know?
  • Posts: 309
    RC7 wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    You're an absolute bore.

    I think you mean bellend.

    I'm too polite for my own good sometimes.
    The idea that BIRDS OF PREY is a “woke” film just because it’s female centric is rather over the top.

    Having seen the film, I can confirm that such a notion is blatantly false.
    Burgess wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see how the coronavirus will impact film release dates and box office numbers in China and affected countries. Without China, would NTTD even have a chance at breaking $1 billion in worldwide receipts?

    Joker showed that there is a path to 1 billion without China. While not insignificant, China’s contribution to Skyfall and Spectre are no where near that of, say, the last Fast and the Furious films. F9 and Black Widow will take a huge hit if the Chinese market doesn’t open back up in time.

    I think you may be right. What was the box office take for SP in China, just out of curiosity? Anyone know?

    $84m Chinese gross versus an international gross of $680m.


  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,009
    Burgess wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Eon, take note, some movies with women in lead roles may flop. Like, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel—oh wait...

    Only leftists see those films it's there main demographic.

    You're an absolute bore.

    I think you mean bellend.

    I'm too polite for my own good sometimes.
    The idea that BIRDS OF PREY is a “woke” film just because it’s female centric is rather over the top.

    Having seen the film, I can confirm that such a notion is blatantly false.
    Burgess wrote: »
    It will be interesting to see how the coronavirus will impact film release dates and box office numbers in China and affected countries. Without China, would NTTD even have a chance at breaking $1 billion in worldwide receipts?

    Joker showed that there is a path to 1 billion without China. While not insignificant, China’s contribution to Skyfall and Spectre are no where near that of, say, the last Fast and the Furious films. F9 and Black Widow will take a huge hit if the Chinese market doesn’t open back up in time.

    I think you may be right. What was the box office take for SP in China, just out of curiosity? Anyone know?

    $84m Chinese gross versus an international gross of $680m.


    I suppose that is certainly not a figure to turn your nose up at. Interesting.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    The idea that BIRDS OF PREY is a “woke” film just because it’s female centric is rather over the top.

    Having seen the film, I can confirm that such a notion is blatantly false.

    It just sounds like those aligning themselves as the anti-woke/anti-SJW crowd is looking for ANYTHING to somehow confirm their own bias, that they want to make a case that audiences universally reject female driven action films, never mind that there were films like WONDER WOMAN, ALITA: BATTLE ANGEL, and especially CAPTAIN MARVEL that were genuine hits.

    Until these folks spoke, it never occurred to me that BIRD OF PREY would even be considered woke or SJW. But seeing that the villain is a male, and that the protagonists are all female, I guess that's just "too much" for them.

    Unless it features a childhood hero like Ripley, I guess any female driven action film is under suspicion of carrying an agenda. Whatever. 8-|
  • The idea that BIRDS OF PREY is a “woke” film just because it’s female centric is rather over the top.

    Having seen the film, I can confirm that such a notion is blatantly false.

    It just sounds like those aligning themselves as the anti-woke/anti-SJW crowd is looking for ANYTHING to somehow confirm their own bias, that they want to make a case that audiences universally reject female driven action films, never mind that there were films like WONDER WOMAN, ALITA: BATTLE ANGEL, and especially CAPTAIN MARVEL that were genuine hits.

    Until these folks spoke, it never occurred to me that BIRD OF PREY would even be considered woke or SJW. But seeing that the villain is a male, and that the protagonists are all female, I guess that's just "too much" for them.

    Unless it features a childhood hero like Ripley, I guess any female driven action film is under suspicion of carrying an agenda. Whatever. 8-|

    +1

    Though in hindsight, Birds of Prey was misjudged. It’s an all-female superhero film with an R-rating. It really should have been PG-13. The truth is teenage girls were this film’s audience and it alienated them. I imagine older girls would find Harley Quinn’s shtick irritating.

    You can’t make a niche comic-book movie for one particular audience and then neglect that audience. I suppose they were hoping for a Deadpool situation. Though I hear the film isn’t as funny as Deadpool.

    I thought the ‘Margot Robbie’ factor would have swung it for the film. But it’s not the ‘blockbuster’ success many thought it would be. But the good reviews would suggest it’ll have legs and there is little playing over the next month to steal its thunder. I didn’t go out on opening weekend to see it, and plan to watch it sometime this week Perhaps more were thinking like me…plus, Margot Robbie

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    I think the whole ‘woke/broke’ narrative is a little dumb. I never saw Birds of Prey as a woke film – it’s a comic-book film. It’s no more woke than Black Panther, Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel. All of which were successful. It’s v easy to cherry-pick examples to feed your own argument (look I just did it).

    NTTD has the ‘hype’ on its side and the teasers and TV spots are only just generating attention. It’s the 5th film with Daniel Craig and his finale – it has Aston Martins, exotic locations, ladies action and the (oh so hot right now) Rami Malek, Ana De Armas and Billie Eilish involved. It smells like a hit. So time will tell if it has the legs at the box office.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Maybe it doesn't help that this is a follow up to SUICIDE SQUAD, despite doing well at the box office that mainly got bad word of mouth. I only saw that film once around the time it hit rental, and it's probably ranked at the very bottom of my DCEU list. BOP at least does a great job of distancing itself from that film that I felt I never needed to revisit SS before watching the new film.
  • Griping & moaning about “woke” cinema is merely a manifestation of CPC... Conservative Political Correctness.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Good points about the virus. People coughing up their lungs in pools of blood and dying is horrible news, because it could have a negative effect on box office.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited February 2020 Posts: 15,686
    First long-range box office tracking for NTTD:

    $88 million opening ($70 mill to $100 mill range) ; $269 million domestic total ($200 mill to $290 mill range).

    https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-tracking-no-time-to-die-007-james-bond/
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    70 millions more than SP in the US would be very good. It would basically guarantee the 1 billion mark.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,686
    matt_u wrote: »
    70 millions more than SP in the US would be very good. It would basically guarantee the 1 billion mark.

    And finally a certain Aiden Turner fan will stop with the doomsday box-office predictions. ;-)
  • Posts: 309
    If this movie opens with $80m or more then $200m is guaranteed in the US. Easter weekend could propel the movie a little bit beyond $100m for the four day (Friday through Monday).

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    If it does less than 70 million opening in the US that would be a problem
  • Posts: 309
    the film has an additional week to build buzz in the US after opening in the UK. Good reviews, a successful overseas launch, Easter Weekend and little to no competition will ensure an opening comparable to Skyfall, if not better.

    The current prediction is a long range estimate so, hopefully, things will only go up as the release draws near.
  • RC7RC7
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    If it does less than 70 million opening in the US that would be a problem

    I couldn’t care less. Bond has always been an international movie that the Americans dip and out of when they fancy it. I’ll be judging it by its resonance here in the UK and Europe as to its success.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Tuck91 wrote: »
    If it does less than 70 million opening in the US that would be a problem

    I couldn’t care less. Bond has always been an international movie that the Americans dip and out of when they fancy it. I’ll be judging it by its resonance here in the UK and Europe as to its success.

    No kidding. Bond was only really massive in the US during the 60s, whereas after that they were still relative hits but not the behemoths they were internationally.

    In the US, a movie like THUNDERBALL was as big a hit as the first AVENGERS film, whereas CASINO ROYALE was more on par with the success of ANT-MAN.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited February 2020 Posts: 10,586
    Beijing premiere canceled amid Coronavirus fears, China box office likely to suffer.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/coronavirus-james-bond-cancels-beijing-tour-because-this-is-no-time-to-die-69cwqrvr8
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    EON better ring out as much as they can out of the American market and they know it
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