No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Thank God that's not Safin's look, I don't want this Bond to be another parody movie.
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    Walecs wrote: »
    Thank God that's not Safin's look, I don't want this Bond to be another parody movie.

    My feelings exactly. Besides, we've had too much clowns this year with IT and Joker. Enough is enough. I want some originality.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Walecs wrote: »
    Thank God that's not Safin's look, I don't want this Bond to be another parody movie.

    Turns out that the Malek-pic (scene from Papillion) came from a fake NTTD-trailer someone made and that twitter guy 'Rob B Movie Cult' first thought it looked cool but has now deleted the tweet after I reached out to him asking about the clownface.

    In here all you guys debunk every fake thing out there, but morons on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, tabloids are generally stupid and can't identify the fake ones. And suddenly we have an explosion of fake bond news

    I have a bunch of very irritating Malek-groupies in my twitterfeed. If they pick up on the clownface, they will spread it claiming it's true followed by "OMG oh no love Maleks face love him love him" plus stupid emojis, hearts and whatnot
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Nigeria
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    Would like Bond & Leiter to share an action scene in NTTD
  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
    edited November 2019 Posts: 183
    Contraband wrote: »
    It looks like a screenshot, if true maybe it's from the trailer.
    EWeZV2G.jpg

    Ah Mr Bond - I've been expecting you, my friends call me Safin, but you can call me "Bomb Voyage". This is from Papillon isn't it?

    That said, I now want a mime as a Bond Villain!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Satorious wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    It looks like a screenshot, if true maybe it's from the trailer.
    EWeZV2G.jpg

    Ah Mr Bond - I've been expecting you, my friends call me Safin, but you can call me "Bomb Voyage". This is from Papillon isn't it?

    That said, I now want a mime as a Bond Villain!

    Finally, the Batman/Bond crossover I've always wanted.

    Batman-189-Joker.jpg
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    mtm wrote: »
    Penpen wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Is it possible to work out which films were shooting at the same time?
    I know that Black Widow was the film with the biggest overlap of filming time as NTTD but oddly that isn't even currently listed on the Pinewood website which is a bit strange. Black Widow finished filming before NTTD so I would guess that the aerial photos are from early on during filming (May/June/July) especially as the round thing you could see from the road was there in August till possibly the end, can't really remember.

    Thanks, interesting stuff.

    Just remembered that if you have Google Earth it tells you the date of the images and you can go back seeing previous aerial images. The aerial photos were taken on the 29th of June.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    z1988 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t want a score using the Bond theme the way Arnold did in those Brosnan era scores, especially TND. It was way overused. However, I do think at least one action sequence could use the Bond theme, but only that one time. I’d prefer composers keep working on newer material, especially to flesh out the title song.

    Exactly my thoughts! Arnold is undoubtly very talented composer, but his Brosnan-era scores were pretty lazy IMO. Overusing Bond theme in that period was so tiring for me. However, forcing him to avoid that in Casino Royale resulted in great, fresh and classy soundtrack. CR also proved that great Bond soundtrack can be achieved with almost no Bond theme.

    Although watching Spectre again recently I actually got a bit bored of it: every time Bond turns up there's a quote of the theme! :) Except weirdly for the one time you actually want a nice big statement of it- when he appears in the plane flying next to Hinx's Land Rovers!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Contraband wrote: »

    I actually passed a guy wearing one of these this week! I was walking past the set of the new Guy Richie movie.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Penpen wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Penpen wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Is it possible to work out which films were shooting at the same time?
    I know that Black Widow was the film with the biggest overlap of filming time as NTTD but oddly that isn't even currently listed on the Pinewood website which is a bit strange. Black Widow finished filming before NTTD so I would guess that the aerial photos are from early on during filming (May/June/July) especially as the round thing you could see from the road was there in August till possibly the end, can't really remember.

    Thanks, interesting stuff.

    Just remembered that if you have Google Earth it tells you the date of the images and you can go back seeing previous aerial images. The aerial photos were taken on the 29th of June.

    Lovely, thanks!
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Univex wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    Thank God that's not Safin's look, I don't want this Bond to be another parody movie.

    My feelings exactly. Besides, we've had too much clowns this year with IT and Joker. Enough is enough. I want some originality.

    +1. Joker was exactly the first thing I thought.
    Contraband wrote: »
    In here all you guys debunk every fake thing out there, but morons on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, tabloids are generally stupid and can't identify the fake ones. And suddenly we have an explosion of fake bond new

    That's why we got many videos/comments about "Daniel Craig shouldn't have been replaced by a woman".
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    z1988 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t want a score using the Bond theme the way Arnold did in those Brosnan era scores, especially TND. It was way overused. However, I do think at least one action sequence could use the Bond theme, but only that one time. I’d prefer composers keep working on newer material, especially to flesh out the title song.

    Exactly my thoughts! Arnold is undoubtly very talented composer, but his Brosnan-era scores were pretty lazy IMO. Overusing Bond theme in that period was so tiring for me. However, forcing him to avoid that in Casino Royale resulted in great, fresh and classy soundtrack. CR also proved that great Bond soundtrack can be achieved with almost no Bond theme.

    Although watching Spectre again recently I actually got a bit bored of it: every time Bond turns up there's a quote of the theme! :) Except weirdly for the one time you actually want a nice big statement of it- when he appears in the plane flying next to Hinx's Land Rovers!

    Yeah,
    z1988 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t want a score using the Bond theme the way Arnold did in those Brosnan era scores, especially TND. It was way overused. However, I do think at least one action sequence could use the Bond theme, but only that one time. I’d prefer composers keep working on newer material, especially to flesh out the title song.

    Exactly my thoughts! Arnold is undoubtly very talented composer, but his Brosnan-era scores were pretty lazy IMO. Overusing Bond theme in that period was so tiring for me. However, forcing him to avoid that in Casino Royale resulted in great, fresh and classy soundtrack. CR also proved that great Bond soundtrack can be achieved with almost no Bond theme.

    Yeah, true....i think with a theme song like You Know My Name....the absence of the bond wasn't even felt. Arnold knew he needed a worthy theme to stand for the bond theme.You would have ever imagined the gunbarrel without the bond theme. But you know my name was that good. It's just like the Living daylights that had A-ha's upbeat theme, where has everybody gone & if there was a man by the pretenders. And they all made it into the score. So the bond theme was used sparingly. And i think Arnold overused the bond theme in tomorrow never dies because of Eric Serra's avant-garde approach to scoring a bond film making the bond theme appear subtly in Goldeneye.
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    For a moment I thought Safins wardrobe was inspired by Octopussy's circus!!!! :))
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    z1988 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t want a score using the Bond theme the way Arnold did in those Brosnan era scores, especially TND. It was way overused. However, I do think at least one action sequence could use the Bond theme, but only that one time. I’d prefer composers keep working on newer material, especially to flesh out the title song.

    Exactly my thoughts! Arnold is undoubtly very talented composer, but his Brosnan-era scores were pretty lazy IMO. Overusing Bond theme in that period was so tiring for me. However, forcing him to avoid that in Casino Royale resulted in great, fresh and classy soundtrack. CR also proved that great Bond soundtrack can be achieved with almost no Bond theme.

    Although watching Spectre again recently I actually got a bit bored of it: every time Bond turns up there's a quote of the theme! :) Except weirdly for the one time you actually want a nice big statement of it- when he appears in the plane flying next to Hinx's Land Rovers!

    Yeah,
    z1988 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t want a score using the Bond theme the way Arnold did in those Brosnan era scores, especially TND. It was way overused. However, I do think at least one action sequence could use the Bond theme, but only that one time. I’d prefer composers keep working on newer material, especially to flesh out the title song.

    Exactly my thoughts! Arnold is undoubtly very talented composer, but his Brosnan-era scores were pretty lazy IMO. Overusing Bond theme in that period was so tiring for me. However, forcing him to avoid that in Casino Royale resulted in great, fresh and classy soundtrack. CR also proved that great Bond soundtrack can be achieved with almost no Bond theme.

    Yeah, true....i think with a theme song like You Know My Name....the absence of the bond wasn't even felt. Arnold knew he needed a worthy theme to stand for the bond theme.You would have ever imagined the gunbarrel without the bond theme. But you know my name was that good. It's just like the Living daylights that had A-ha's upbeat theme, where has everybody gone & if there was a man by the pretenders. And they all made it into the score. So the bond theme was used sparingly. And i think Arnold overused the bond theme in tomorrow never dies because of Eric Serra's avant-garde approach to scoring a bond film making the bond theme appear subtly in Goldeneye.

    I was always think CR could've done with a big, proper statement of YKMN- like if he'd just played a nice full action version of it during the airport chase rather than just mickey mousing along to everything that happened onscreen.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    z1988 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t want a score using the Bond theme the way Arnold did in those Brosnan era scores, especially TND. It was way overused. However, I do think at least one action sequence could use the Bond theme, but only that one time. I’d prefer composers keep working on newer material, especially to flesh out the title song.

    Exactly my thoughts! Arnold is undoubtly very talented composer, but his Brosnan-era scores were pretty lazy IMO. Overusing Bond theme in that period was so tiring for me. However, forcing him to avoid that in Casino Royale resulted in great, fresh and classy soundtrack. CR also proved that great Bond soundtrack can be achieved with almost no Bond theme.

    Although watching Spectre again recently I actually got a bit bored of it: every time Bond turns up there's a quote of the theme! :) Except weirdly for the one time you actually want a nice big statement of it- when he appears in the plane flying next to Hinx's Land Rovers!

    Yeah,
    z1988 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t want a score using the Bond theme the way Arnold did in those Brosnan era scores, especially TND. It was way overused. However, I do think at least one action sequence could use the Bond theme, but only that one time. I’d prefer composers keep working on newer material, especially to flesh out the title song.

    Exactly my thoughts! Arnold is undoubtly very talented composer, but his Brosnan-era scores were pretty lazy IMO. Overusing Bond theme in that period was so tiring for me. However, forcing him to avoid that in Casino Royale resulted in great, fresh and classy soundtrack. CR also proved that great Bond soundtrack can be achieved with almost no Bond theme.

    Yeah, true....i think with a theme song like You Know My Name....the absence of the bond wasn't even felt. Arnold knew he needed a worthy theme to stand for the bond theme.You would have ever imagined the gunbarrel without the bond theme. But you know my name was that good. It's just like the Living daylights that had A-ha's upbeat theme, where has everybody gone & if there was a man by the pretenders. And they all made it into the score. So the bond theme was used sparingly. And i think Arnold overused the bond theme in tomorrow never dies because of Eric Serra's avant-garde approach to scoring a bond film making the bond theme appear subtly in Goldeneye.

    I was always think CR could've done with a big, proper statement of YKMN- like if he'd just played a nice full action version of it during the airport chase rather than just mickey mousing along to everything that happened onscreen.

    Right you are....that would have worked too
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Nigeria
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    Am hoping for NTTD to have a spectacular finale....I always thought TND was the last time the franchise had a huge finale. Although one might say Skyfall has to a certain extent. I jst feel the recent films open Big but end with a sort of 'is that all?'. I wouldn't mind if NTTD opens in a more suspenseful way, and the big action scenes come afterwards
  • You know what we haven’t had since TLD? Bond with the cohorts at the end. So odd that it was a staple you used to get with these films but has been untouched for over 30 years, a longer timespan than how old the series was when it last did it.
  • RC7RC7
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Am hoping for NTTD to have a spectacular finale....I always thought TND was the last time the franchise had a huge finale. Although one might say Skyfall has to a certain extent. I jst feel the recent films open Big but end with a sort of 'is that all?'. I wouldn't mind if NTTD opens in a more suspenseful way, and the big action scenes come afterwards

    All depends on the weight of the story. Cinema has changed. You can’t just build a big set and put a load of bad dudes in it anymore. Don’t get me wrong, hollowed-out volcanoes are joyously insane, but audiences are beyond superficial spectacle these days. CR was ‘spectacular’ imo, because it carried so much emotional resonance.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't mind if it's spectacular or not: I never hugely enjoy the ones where he gets a load of soldiers along to fight with. One of the best endings of any action films in years was Mission Impossible Rogue Nation I think, and that involved a rather simple and small scale tricking of the villain, but it was immensely satisfying. Equally, MI Fallout had a massive and intensely exciting and tense finale with some stunning stuntwork, so I don't think it's as simple as just being big and/or spectacular: whatever it is it needs to work with the plot and build towards a real climax of the movie. I'd rather it was satisfying, well-written and well-directed rather than just feature some soldiers and a few quotes of the theme song in the music. I want a good film rather than bits of old James Bond films.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    You know what we haven’t had since TLD? Bond with the cohorts at the end. So odd that it was a staple you used to get with these films but has been untouched for over 30 years, a longer timespan than how old the series was when it last did it.

    Maybe that's in the next iteration of Bond. I'd like to see a return to the better elements of the Moore films, but informed by the quality of the Craig productions. A good balance of levity, drama, wit, and bone crunching action. EoN have some really good experience under their belts. As much as I love Nolan, I'd rather see something lighter. I think we've had quite enough navel gazing.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Satorious wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    It looks like a screenshot, if true maybe it's from the trailer.
    EWeZV2G.jpg
    Ah Mr Bond - I've been expecting you, my friends call me Safin, but you can call me "Bomb Voyage". This is from Papillon isn't it?

    That said, I now want a mime as a Bond Villain!
    So art doesn't imitate mischief this round after all.
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    Regarding Bond with cohorts at film's end that would work well for Craig. All his films continue a measured focus on Bond, at the same time building the original film formula. Returning Moneypenny and Q. Arrival of the warrior henchman. The global plot. Blofeld himself.

    Continue with items like the full-out assault on the villain's lair, another natural.

  • ObannoObanno Somewhere & Everywhere
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    You know what we haven’t had since TLD? Bond with the cohorts at the end. So odd that it was a staple you used to get with these films but has been untouched for over 30 years, a longer timespan than how old the series was when it last did it.

    Great observation and its something that could be incorporated in future Bond movies if done correctly. I think Bond-with-cohorts adds to the scope of the movie and enhances the risk of the villains plot. TB, OHMSS and YOLT did it well but TSWLM did it best while at the same time drawing attention to Bond's naval past.

    There are so many elements from the previous films that could be updated for the modern era that were largely ignored during the Craig era in favor of a more introspective and narrower approach.

    I think Bond works on a wider canvas and this current era (great as it has been) has shown the limitations of the introspective approach resulting in EON and P&W suffering from burnout (or so it seems). The potential offered by CR has not been fulfilled. I for one hope that NTTD rectifies this and Bond #7 enhances on the good work of this era thus far.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    People just wants bits of old James Bond films stuck together, by the sounds of it then.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Classic stories told well. Established film formula elements used well.
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    They could make the greatest Bond film of all time and fans would hate it just because it has no gun barrel either at the beginning or end.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Classic stories told well. Established film formula elements used well.

    This!
  • RC7RC7
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    They could make the greatest Bond film of all time and fans would hate it just because it has no gun barrel either at the beginning or end.

    That’s overly hysterical. The argument for the gun barrel is that it should be a given -and it should always open the film. There’s no reason not to use it. It’s Bond. Pure and simple.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    They could make the greatest Bond film of all time and fans would hate it just because it has no gun barrel either at the beginning or end.

    That’s overly hysterical. The argument for the gun barrel is that it should be a given -and it should always open the film. There’s no reason not to use it. It’s Bond. Pure and simple.

    Unless you're watching..........NEVER.............NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN.....................NEVER...............NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN.
  • RC7 wrote: »
    They could make the greatest Bond film of all time and fans would hate it just because it has no gun barrel either at the beginning or end.

    That’s overly hysterical. The argument for the gun barrel is that it should be a given -and it should always open the film. There’s no reason not to use it. It’s Bond. Pure and simple.

    Exaggerated yes, but my point is I think we sometimes put way too much stock on Bond tropes. I remember when CR came out it wasn’t uncommon then that a fan would give it a lower rating just on the grounds of stuff like main titles lacking naked women, no Q or Moneypenny, etc. Thankfully I don’t see much of that anymore, once the dust settled for CR at least.
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    RC7 wrote: »
    They could make the greatest Bond film of all time and fans would hate it just because it has no gun barrel either at the beginning or end.

    That’s overly hysterical. The argument for the gun barrel is that it should be a given -and it should always open the film. There’s no reason not to use it. It’s Bond. Pure and simple.

    Exaggerated yes, but my point is I think we sometimes put way too much stock on Bond tropes. I remember when CR came out it wasn’t uncommon then that a fan would give it a lower rating just on the grounds of stuff like main titles lacking naked women, no Q or Moneypenny, etc. Thankfully I don’t see much of that anymore, once the dust settled for CR at least.

    I'm certainly a strong supporter of tradition, formula and Bondian tropes. I do like things mixed up once in awhile and the Craig era, particularly CR found a clever way of shaking up the formula. I never notice the lack of Q or Moneypenny when watching CR. I do notice and lament Q's absence in LALD, though.
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