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  • Posts: 4,026
    Any chance of NSNA being included?

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I didn t say I wouldn t play. My mom says I can.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    vzok wrote: »
    Any chance of NSNA being included?

    I'm open to it. What did you want to include?
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 2,189
    pachazo wrote: »
    @sirseanisbond, a couple of suggestions. I think for LALD we should have the scene where Kananga reveals his dual identity to Bond. The dialogue is better and he actually explains his plan to Bond here as well.

    Also, for TMWTGG, I feel strongly that we should have the lunch between Bond and Scaramanga on the island. It's just such a fantastic scene.

    I really feel that we should also include Bond confronting Orlov on the train in OP. We could have both that and the dinner with Khan if you'd like.

    Also, in LTK, the "problem eliminator" scene is perhaps more fitting? I know he doesn't explain his plan here but the dialogue is great and it's more of a conversation than the confrontation in the desert.

    I'm fine with all of your other picks.
    Although, we might not need to include QoS. Does every film have to be included?
    For that matter, in FYEO, Kristatos is technically an ally at that point but I'm okay with it's inclusion.

    What do you think?

    I agree with these suggestions.

    I also agree with these changes for the most part. One of us should write up an updated list because it seems like this is going to be the winning game...

    Also I strongly believe that NSNA should never be included in these games. Just a bias...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    pachazo wrote: »
    @sirseanisbond, a couple of suggestions. I think for LALD we should have the scene where Kananga reveals his dual identity to Bond. The dialogue is better and he actually explains his plan to Bond here as well.

    Also, for TMWTGG, I feel strongly that we should have the lunch between Bond and Scaramanga on the island. It's just such a fantastic scene.

    I really feel that we should also include Bond confronting Orlov on the train in OP. We could have both that and the dinner with Khan if you'd like.

    Also, in LTK, the "problem eliminator" scene is perhaps more fitting? I know he doesn't explain his plan here but the dialogue is great and it's more of a conversation than the confrontation in the desert.

    I'm fine with all of your other picks.
    Although, we might not need to include QoS. Does every film have to be included?
    For that matter, in FYEO, Kristatos is technically an ally at that point but I'm okay with it's inclusion.

    What do you think?

    I agree with these suggestions.

    I also agree with these changes for the most part. One of us should write up an updated list because it seems like this is going to be the winning game...

    Also I strongly believe that NSNA should never be included in these games. Just a bias...

    And no Brosnan films.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited August 2016 Posts: 5,080

    Also I strongly believe that NSNA should never be included in these games. Just a bias...

    I'm in agreement there.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Here is your list, with the changes made. I don't mind if NSNA is included or not.

    DN - Dr. No and Bond have dinner beneath Crab Key
    FRWL - Bond and Grant discuss his plan on the train
    GF - Goldfinger and Bond share mint juleps
    TB - Bond and Largo play Chemin de Fer
    YOLT - Blofeld and Bond in the Volcano control room
    OHMSS - Blofeld and Bond after he awakes on Christmas Eve
    DAF - Bond and Blofeld (and Blofeld) in his penthouse in Vegas
    LALD - Quite Revealing with Mr. Big/Dr. Kananga
    TMWTGG - Bond and Scaramanga have lunch on the island
    TSWLM - Stromberg and Bond at the big Globe
    MR - Bond and Drax go Hunting
    FYEO - Bond and Kristatos double date
    OP - Bond had dinner with Khan
    OP - Bond confronts Orlov on the train
    AVTAK - Zorin explains his plan in city hall
    TLD - Bond vs Whitaker final duel
    LTK - Bond, the Problem Eliminator, in Sanchez's office
    GE - Alec and Bond in the field of statues
    TND - Carver writes Bond's obituary in Vietnam
    TWINE - Bond gets the screw from Electra
    DAD - Bond and Moon fight on the plane
    CR - Le Chiffre beats the balls of Bond
    QOS - Bond makes Greene drink oil
    SF - Bond and Silva talk about rats
    SP - Blofeld shows Bond the meteorite
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    I want to give this list some more work, both in naming the conversations for the list, and adding a few scenes because like others have said, some films have more than one, and QoS really doesn't have any. I'll work on it and post a revised list as soon as I can.
  • Posts: 2,189
    Ok, here is my revised final list. I doubled up GF and got rid of QOS. I'm really starting to get excited about this game and it seems like there are others who feel the same way. Does anyone have anything to add to or critique about this list?
    Hear it is:


    DN - Dinner with Dr. No beneath Crab Key
    FRWL - Grant reveals his plan on the train
    GF - Lazer room confrontation
    GF - Bond and Goldfinger share mint juleps
    TB - Bond and Largo play Chemin de Fer
    YOLT - Blofeld reveals himself in the Volcano control room
    OHMSS - Blofeld reveals his plan on Christmas Eve
    DAF - Double Blofelds in the Las Vegas penthouse
    LALD - Mr. Big reveals he is Kananga in Harlem
    TMWTGG - Bond and Scaramanga have lunch on the island
    TSWLM - Stromberg reveals his plan on the Liparus
    MR - Bond and Drax go Hunting
    FYEO - Bond and Kristatos double date
    OP - Dinner with Kahn at the Monsoon Palace
    OP - Bond confronts Orlov on the train
    AVTAK - Zorin explains his plan in city hall
    TLD - Bond vs Whitaker final duel
    LTK - Bond, the Problem Eliminator, in Sanchez's office
    GE - Trevelyan and Bond in the field of statues
    TND - Carver writes Bond's obituary in Vietnam
    TWINE - Bond gets the screw from Electra
    DAD - Bond and Moon fight on the plane
    CR - Le Chiffre beats Bonds balls
    SF - Silva talk about how to rid an island of rats
    SP - Blofeld shows Bond and Madeline the meteorite
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited August 2016 Posts: 1,263
    I don't know how that game could possibly not include either the laser confrontation in Goldfinger or the dialogue over the card game in Casino Royale. Things like "You changed your shirt, Mr. Bond. I hope our little game isn't causing you to perspire. Just a little, but I won't consider myself to be in trouble until I start weeping blood." Not to mention, "You must have thought I was bluffing, Mr. Bond," and, "That last hand nearly killed me." Those are epitome Bond moments.
  • Posts: 2,189
    Mansfield wrote: »
    I don't know how that game could possibly not include either the laser confrontation in Goldfinger or the dialogue over the card game in Casino Royale. Things like "You changed your shirt, Mr. Bond. I hope our little game isn't causing you to perspire. Just a little, but I won't consider myself to be in trouble until I start weeping blood." Not to mention, "You must have thought I was bluffing, Mr. Bond," and, "That last hand nearly killed me." Those are epitome Bond moments.

    First of all, for GF I have included the laser room scene.
    As for the bits of CR you mentioned, I feel like those qualify more as one liners, and less of full dialogue scenes...
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Yes, the poker game is full of great little moments like that but is not really a conversation. Good suggestion though, @Mansfield, as those are quality lines. Granted, the MR and TLD entries are pretty brief on the conversation side.

    The list looks good. Except the Kananga scene is in New Orleans!
  • GBFGBF
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    However, I would include the convesration between Bond and Scaramanga after Scaramanga had killed Andrea, the office meeting between Bond and Zorin, With Tee Hee on the croc farm, Backgammon with Khan as well as Bond surprises Renard in the silo.
  • TLD: Bond and Koskov on the plane to Afghanistan. "Duty has no sweethearts."
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 4,026
    There isn't much conversation in that DAD scene. Doesn't Bond have just 1 line? How about the fencing scene - isn't there some chit-chat before they get started?

    In NSNA I was thinking about the scene where he shackles Bond in Palmyra. "You were... a very good secret agent."
  • Posts: 9,784
    I would add from quantum the opera scene as bond and Greene do talk briefly

    Also what about a casino scene game
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 2,189
    I've been taking peoples advice and have yet another updated list. It turns out many films have multiple good scenes for this game, but I've stopped here. It is 36 scenes long now.


    DN - Dinner with Dr. No beneath Crab Key
    FRWL - Grant reveals his plan on the train
    GF - Lazer room confrontation
    GF - Bond and Goldfinger share mint juleps
    TB - Bond and Largo play Chemin de Fer
    TB - Largo invites Bond to lunch at Palmira
    YOLT - Blofeld's introduction in the Volcano control room
    OHMSS - Blofeld reveals his plan on Christmas Eve
    DAF - Double Blofelds in the Las Vegas penthouse
    DAF - Bond and Blofeld on the oil rig
    LALD - Kananga threatens to cut off Bonds finger
    TMWTGG - Bond and Scaramanga at the boning match
    TMWTGG - Lunch on Scaramanga's private island
    TSWLM - Stromberg reveals his plan on the Liparus
    MR - Bond and Drax go Hunting
    FYEO - Bond and Kristatos double date
    OP - The Backgammon game
    OP - Dinner with Kahn at the Monsoon Palace
    OP - Bond confronts Orlov on the train
    AVTAK - Zorin explains his plan in city hall
    TLD - Bond and Georgi on the plain to Afghanistan
    TLD - Bond and Whitaker discuss Pickets charge
    LTK - Bond is the Problem Eliminator in Sanchez's office
    GE - Bond and Onatopp chat in Monte Carlo
    GE - Trevelyan and Bond in the field of Soviet statues
    GE - Bond and Trevelyan on the train
    GE - Bond and Trevelyan in the Goldeneye control room
    TND - Carver writes Bond's obituary in Vietnam
    TND - Bond tunes Carver out on the stealth boat
    TWINE - Bond confronts Renard in Kazakstan
    TWINE - Bond gets the screw from Electra
    DAD - Bond and Graves have a sword fight
    DAD - Bond and Graves and Frost in Iceland
    CR - Le Chiffre beats Bonds balls
    SF - Silva and Bond share a moment on his private island
    SP - Blofeld is the author of all Bonds pain


    Any more suggestions? Any scenes that I've overlooked? At this point, regardless of how much the list has grown, I still feel like I'm leaving scenes out...
  • GBFGBF
    edited August 2016 Posts: 3,195
    Bond and Zorin in the office?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2016 Posts: 40,559
    Surely only two max should be needed for certain films? Having 36 entries will make for quite an unnecessarily lengthy game, as some of those scenes are incredibly short and will probably be eliminated right off the bat, anyway. Just a tip; if you lot feel the list is proper and complete, then that's fine with me.

    I want to pimp my own idea I had a few years back: an outfit elimination game, where we vote for a particular, iconic outfit or two of Bond's from each film. Could be fun.
  • Posts: 9,784
    what about Bond and Mr white's interrogation remember Quantum as a whole was the enemy of Quantum of Solace.
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 2,189
    Ok @GBF, Zorin and Bond (as Sterling) discuss horses is in, and including Bond vs Mr. White interrogation in QOS is a great idea @Risico007, so that's in as well, even though that scene is mostly between White and M, I feel that every movie should get at least one scene in this list.

    As for @Creasy47's mention of limiting films to 2 scenes, I'm not so sure. The three scenes in OP are pretty important. As for the 4 I gave to GE, I could see removing the one with Onatopp seeing as she is not the mane villain and most of their conversation is just cheeky banter.

    Upon thinking things over again, I feel that SP should receive another scene, when Blofeld explaines his game to save Madeline inside old MI6 to Bond at the end. This would bring us to a total of 38 scenes. I think that as long as we are not over 40 entries in a list, its alright. Sound good to everyone? Here is (hopefully) the final list:


    DN - Dinner with Dr. No beneath Crab Key
    FRWL - Grant reveals his plan on the train
    GF - Lazer room confrontation
    GF - Bond and Goldfinger share mint juleps
    TB - Bond and Largo play Chemin de Fer
    TB - Largo invites Bond to lunch at Palmira
    YOLT - Blofeld's introduction in the Volcano control room
    OHMSS - Blofeld reveals his plan on Christmas Eve
    DAF - Double Blofelds in the Las Vegas penthouse
    DAF - Bond and Blofeld on the oil rig
    LALD - Kananga threatens to cut off Bonds finger
    TMWTGG - Bond and Scaramanga at the boxing match
    TMWTGG - Lunch on Scaramanga's private island
    TSWLM - Stromberg reveals his plan on the Liparus
    MR - Bond and Drax go Hunting
    FYEO - Bond and Kristatos double date
    OP - The Backgammon game
    OP - Dinner with Kahn at the Monsoon Palace
    OP - Bond confronts Orlov on the train
    AVTAK - Bond (as Sterling) buys a horse from Zorin
    AVTAK - Zorin explains his plan in city hall
    TLD - Bond and Georgi on the plain to Afghanistan
    TLD - Bond and Whitaker discuss Pickets charge
    LTK - Bond is the Problem Eliminator in Sanchez's office
    GE - Trevelyan and Bond in the field of Soviet statues
    GE - Bond and Trevelyan on the train
    GE - Bond and Trevelyan in the Goldeneye control room
    TND - Carver writes Bond's obituary in Vietnam
    TND - Bond tunes Carver out on the stealth boat
    TWINE - Bond confronts Renard in Kazakstan
    TWINE - Bond gets the screw from Electra
    DAD - Bond and Graves have a sword fight
    DAD - Bond and Graves and Frost in Iceland
    CR - Le Chiffre beats Bonds balls
    QOS - The interrogation of Mr. White
    SF - Silva and Bond share a moment on his private island
    SP - Blofeld is the author of all Bonds pain
    SP - Blofeld sets up his sinister MI6 (Joker-esque) game
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 2,189
    The more I think about FYEO, the less I like Bond's dinner with Kristatos. After all, at that point Bond still believes That Kristatos is an ally. Perhaps the brief scene on the boat before he drags Bond and Milline through the water?
  • Posts: 2,189
    I'm ready to start this Bond Vs Villain Repartee game if we're all settled that it should be next. However, I would like to have some input from someone else about what I should do regarding the FYEO issue I just posted. What's the word guys?
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    edited August 2016 Posts: 7,314
    Perhaps that list is a little long now. I'm not keen on including more than one scene with a particular villain, but I suppose someone is going to be dissatisfied no matter which way you slice it. Still, maybe it could stand to lose a couple of the weaker entries. Then just go with it.
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 2,189
    pachazo wrote: »
    Perhaps that list is a little long now. I'm not keen on including more than one scene with a particular villain, but I suppose someone is going to be dissatisfied no matter which way you slice it. Still, maybe it could stand to lose a couple of the weaker entries. Then just go with it.

    Ok, here is my attempt at shortening the list. I eliminated FYEO, and QOS completely because there are not qualifying scenes between them. The DAF oil rig scene is semi superfluous, as is the AVTAK San Fran City Hall scene, so both are gone as well. I've also gotten rid of the scene where 006 tells Bond that Natalia tastes like strawberries on the train in GE, just to illuminate the three scenes for that film. I feel that the three scenes in OP must remain, simply because they are so important. At any rate, the list is down to 32 now, and I think that that is satisfactory. Does that sound all right to everybody? I have the game ready to launch at a moments notice, the whole thing is a draft ready to publish. Here's the list one last time:


    DN - Dinner with Dr. No beneath Crab Key - 15
    FRWL - Grant reveals his plan on the train - 15
    GF - Lazer room confrontation - 15
    GF - Bond and Goldfinger share mint juleps - 15
    TB - Bond and Largo play Chemin de Fer - 15
    TB - Largo invites Bond to lunch at Palmira - 15
    YOLT - Blofeld's introduction in the Volcano control room - 15
    OHMSS - Blofeld reveals his plan on Christmas Eve - 15
    DAF - Double Blofelds in the Las Vegas penthouse - 15
    LALD - Kananga threatens to cut off Bonds finger - 15
    TMWTGG - Bond and Scaramanga at the boxing match - 15
    TMWTGG - Lunch on Scaramanga's private island - 15
    TSWLM - Stromberg reveals his plan on the Liparus - 15
    MR - Bond and Drax go Hunting - 15
    OP - The Backgammon game - 15
    OP - Dinner with Kahn at the Monsoon Palace - 15
    OP - Bond confronts Orlov on the train - 15
    AVTAK - Bond (as Sterling) buys a horse from Zorin - 15
    TLD - Bond and Georgi on the plain to Afghanistan - 15
    TLD - Bond and Whitaker discuss Pickets charge - 15
    LTK - Bond is the Problem Eliminator in Sanchez's office - 15
    GE - Trevelyan and Bond in the field of Soviet statues - 15
    GE - Bond and Trevelyan in the Goldeneye control room - 15
    TND - Carver writes Bond's obituary in Vietnam - 15
    TND - Bond tunes Carver out on the stealth boat - 15
    TWINE - Bond confronts Renard in Kazakstan - 15
    TWINE - Bond gets the screw from Electra - 15
    DAD - Bond and Graves have a sword fight - 15
    DAD - Bond and Graves and Frost in Iceland - 15
    CR - Le Chiffre beats Bonds balls - 15
    SF - Silva and Bond share a moment on his private island - 15
    SP - Blofeld is the author of all Bonds pain - 15


    I feel I need at least two other members to second the nomination of this list before I move foreword with the launch of the game. Any takers?
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    That's much better.
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 2,189
    Thats one. I need one more person to second this motion. @Risico007, @Creasy47, @GBF, @vzok, @Mansfield, @Benny, any takers?
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    This one should be included. The conversation is noteworthy for flipping Jaws' allegiance.

  • Posts: 2,189
    Mansfield wrote: »
    This one should be included. The conversation is noteworthy for flipping Jaws' allegiance.


    Good point @Mansfield, I think that this scene would be more appropriate than the duck hunting scene in MR, and I will substitute it in the master list.

    Are there any more last minute suggestions, as I'd like to get this game going...?
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
    Posts: 4,151
    Thats one. I need one more person to second this motion. @Risico007, @Creasy47, @GBF, @vzok, @Mansfield, @Benny, any takers?

    Seconded.

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