Common misconceptions about Bond movies

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    Benny wrote:
    Here's a common misconception, and judging from recent postings on this forum.
    Goldfinger is the most popular film amongst fans and general public alike.

    Today I guess that would be a misconception. I see Goldfinger constantly being accused of being overrated and one of the weakest Connnery films. Hard to say what the most popular film among fans is today... maybe From Russia with Love?
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    Murdock wrote:
    I heard GF was the first film, but GE? Wow!

    Well to be fair, when I first saw GoldenEye, I thought it was the first Bond film. :))

    I'm 98% sure Tomorrow Never Dies was the first Bond film I watched in full. A few Spike TV marathons later and I finally realized that it was a series that went on for awhile. I didn't associate the Brosnan films as Bond films. I thought at first that they were different things until TND came on during one of these marathons and then it clicked. If I had never watched those marathons I could easily see myself not being such a hardcore fan and being convinced that Brosnan was the only real Bond, and that maybe GE was first.

    It's more naivety than ignorance. I wouldn't be too offended by people with these misconceptions.
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    Benny wrote:
    Here's a common misconception, and judging from recent postings on this forum.
    Goldfinger is the most popular film amongst fans and general public alike.

    This is now a misconception now, most definitely.
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    Ludovico wrote:
    Benny wrote:
    Here's a common misconception, and judging from recent postings on this forum.
    Goldfinger is the most popular film amongst fans and general public alike.

    This is now a misconception now, most definitely.

    And rightly so, I'd say.
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    Ludovico wrote:
    Benny wrote:
    Here's a common misconception, and judging from recent postings on this forum.
    Goldfinger is the most popular film amongst fans and general public alike.

    This is now a misconception now, most definitely.

    And rightly so, I'd say.

    It is a correct misconception?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Ludovico wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    Benny wrote:
    Here's a common misconception, and judging from recent postings on this forum.
    Goldfinger is the most popular film amongst fans and general public alike.

    This is now a misconception now, most definitely.

    And rightly so, I'd say.

    It is a correct misconception?

    I don't know, I'm a big Bond fan and unaware of how a more casual watcher of the films would view Goldfinger. I know it's common word of mouth that it is the Bond film to beat all Bond films in some places simply because that is the excepted word for years that a lot of people seem to get behind. It's sort of "cool" to call it the best, though some that say that may not have even seen it. Who knows.
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    Here is one I had myself, guilty as charged: after I first watched LTK at the tender age of 12 or 13, I thought that Felix Leiter had been killed when he was fed to the shark. It took me ages to see that my memory had played tricks on me.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Ludovico wrote:
    I first watched LTK at the tender age of 12 or 13
    OMG you are so young.
    ;)
  • Maybe FRWL (or OHMSS or CR) has surpassed it among hardcore fans like the ones here, but GF is still probably #1 with the general public, and it's still well-regarded on here. It's my favorite, it bears mentioning.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    It's my favorite, it bears mentioning.
    It was lightning in a bottle, truly. As much as I like TB better, I can't deny the impact of GF. It was glorious.
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    chrisisall wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    I first watched LTK at the tender age of 12 or 13
    OMG you are so young.
    ;)

    not anymore, unfortunately.
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    Have been reading some of the reviews of the Bond films over on bluray.com and bloody hell, they really have it in for Dalton and Moore.In their License To Kill review they state seemingly as a matter of fact that the Bond series went on a six year hiatus due to the '' failure '' of the film and that Dalton never got to do another one because of it.

    This is the best bit though, the reviewer claims that QOS did the revenge angle much better years later! They even give that film 5 out of 5 and cannot understand why it was slated by critics on release! Idiots.
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    But those are not misconceptions (apart from the hiatus after LTK): they are opinions. I am talking about misconceptions here, like Bond has to bed one Bond girl that is a baddie in every film.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    AstonLotus wrote:
    Have been reading some of the reviews of the Bond films over on bluray.com and bloody hell, they really have it in for Dalton and Moore.In their License To Kill review they state seemingly as a matter of fact that the Bond series went on a six year hiatus due to the '' failure '' of the film and that Dalton never got to do another one because of it.

    This is the best bit though, the reviewer claims that QOS did the revenge angle much better years later! They even give that film 5 out of 5 and cannot understand why it was slated by critics on release! Idiots.

    And QoS isn't even a bloody revenge film, at least not for Bond.
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    One I have seen in the past on some website(s), about OHMSS, absolutely baffling: OHMSS's plot is basically the same as TSWLM and MR: Blofeld wants to take over the world by destroying its population through biological warfare, and his angels of death are meant to repeople the earth after its population and livestock have been destroyed.
  • How about the myth that Bond regularly dispatched the Bond girls when in reality he did it only two or three times.
  • I think a common misconception is that From Russia With Love is the best Bond film and yet these same people for the most part probably couldn't sit through it.
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    I think a common misconception is that From Russia With Love is the best Bond film and yet these same people for the most part probably couldn't sit through it.

    This is NOT a misconception. It is obviously debatable, but the movie is hailed by many as the best Bond movie, including people attached to the franchise (it was Sean Connery's favourite). And, for the record, I do consider it the best Bond film AND I easily sit through it.
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    Ludovico wrote:
    I think a common misconception is that From Russia With Love is the best Bond film and yet these same people for the most part probably couldn't sit through it.

    This is NOT a misconception. It is obviously debatable, but the movie is hailed by many as the best Bond movie, including people attached to the franchise (it was Sean Connery's favourite). And, for the record, I do consider it the best Bond film AND I easily sit through it.

    Same here...its #1 on my list as well,a brilliant film.
    The Orient Express scenes are priceless.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Taste can never be a misconception. Unless you like Brosnan. ;)
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    I think a common misconception is that From Russia With Love is the best Bond film and yet these same people for the most part probably couldn't sit through it.

    That's called incoherency or hypocrisy, not misconception. Which is even worse.
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    Taste can never be a misconception. Unless you like Brosnan. ;)

    It can be if you equate taste and quality. One can find FRWL boring, yet still hail it st the best Bond, or one of the best. I don't like Marcel Proust, yet he is a great writer, maybe the greatest French writer ever. People can prefer Brosnan movies to the classics of the franchise, it only becomes a.misconception when they think they are actually superior.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    I think a common misconception is that From Russia With Love is the best Bond film and yet these same people for the most part probably couldn't sit through it.
    You are projecting. Why would one claim that it's the best film when they find it a chore to get through? To go along with the consensus pick? I don't think so.
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    And even if one did not find the movie entertaining... One can still think it is the best.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited April 2014 Posts: 5,080
    I think a common misconception is that From Russia With Love is the best Bond film and yet these same people for the most part probably couldn't sit through it.

    Oh, it's the same old tripe from DoggieGalore. This comment is of no surprise.
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    After Daniel Craig is not Bond, FRWL is not a Bond movie? The world is sometimes such a sad, sad place.
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    Here is another one: that Blofeld should be bald. Maybe it is more a misconception about the novels, but according to the casting calls we can read here about Blofeld, this is certainly a misconception.
  • edited October 2014 Posts: 7,500
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Here is another one: that Blofeld should be bald. Maybe it is more a misconception about the novels, but according to the casting calls we can read here about Blofeld, this is certainly a misconception.

    Yes, that one baffles me aswell. By coincidence the first two actors to portray him were bald/had bad hairgrowth, and suddenly its a defining trait for the character...? I whonder if Fleming would have approved or not?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Some people actually think the books are based on the films.

    Kudos to Fleming for writing the novelization for "Casino Royale" 53 years before the movie came out, then.
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    jobo wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Here is another one: that Blofeld should be bald. Maybe it is more a misconception about the novels, but according to the casting calls we can read here about Blofeld, this is certainly a misconception.

    Yes, that one baffles me aswell. By coincidence the first two actors to portray him were bald/had bad hairgrowth, and suddenly its a defining trait for the character...? I whonder if Fleming would have approved or not?

    It seems that baldness is the defining trait of Blofeld for many people here, hence they suggest bald actors, or actors who once in their life shaved their head for one role or another.
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