Rate the Various Categories - The Films!!! 2021 - Final Community Ratings

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  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 4,460
    Octopussy

    /10
    1. Direction - 8
    2. Screenplay - 7
    3. Script - 8
    4. Plot - 8
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain - 9
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8
    8. Bond - 9
    9. Sets - 8
    10. Music - 8
    11. Cinematography - 9
    12. Fleming - 7

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast - 4
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt - 4

    Total: 119/150 (79,33%)

    So far my votes:

    GE - 134/150 (89,33%)
    Twine - 124/150 (82,66%)
    OHMSS - 119/150 (79,33%)
    OP - 119/150 (79,33%)
    QOS - 119/150 (79,33%)
    TLD - 115/150 (76,66%)
    TMWTGG - 108/150 (72,00% )
    TSWLM - 108/150 (72,00% )
    Dr.No - 108/150 (72,00% )
    MR - 92/150 (61,33%)
    GF - 89/150 (59,33%)
    SF - 84/150 (56%)
    TB - 75/150 (50,00%)
  • Posts: 4,325
    Octopussy, 1983

    /10
    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 6
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond – 7
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 8
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming - 7

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 3

    103/150

    68.67%

    Tanaka's Rankings

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 77.33%
    Skyfall - 76.67%
    Dr. No - 75.33%
    The Living Daylights - 74.67% / GoldenEye - 74.67
    Quantum of Solace - 69.33% / Thunderball - 69.33%
    The Man with the Golden Gun - 68.67% / Octopussy - 68.67%
    Moonraker - 68% / The Spy Who Loved Me - 68%
    The World is Not Enough - 60.67%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Slap my thigh and call me Nigel. It's only the weekly "rounding this one up at weekend!" alert!
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    There don't seem to be as many voters this time. Obviously not an all time high.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Righty ho. Let's see how OP compares.

    Community Ratings 2016 -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 89.66%
    Goldfinger – 81.87%
    Dr. No – 80.88%
    The Living Daylights – 80.73%
    GoldenEye – 80.12%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 78.59%
    Octopussy – 77.73%
    Skyfall – 77.39%
    Quantum of Solace – 74%
    Thunderball – 73.27%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 69.6%
    The World Is Not Enough – 69.03%
    Moonraker – 66.81%   

    Just squeaking in ahead on Skyfall.

    OP was 12th in our 2014 game, with 76.61%.

    James Bond will return...
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Time for this little oddity

    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971

    /10
    1. Direction – 7 (runs out of puff in the final third, plus no suspense)
    2. Screenplay – 6
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action – 6
    6. Main Villain – 8 (Piss poor Blofeld, but Gray is a hoot)
    7. Main Bond Girl – 7 (Poor character, great actress)
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 8 (Whyte's penthouse is a real treat)
    10. Music – 10
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming – 6 (Benign Bizarre is not enough to save this one)

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5 (Herg for the win!)
    14. Main Titles – 5 (Cat segue!)
    15. Plausibility – 2
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing –2
    18. Tilt – 4


    109/150 =72.66%


    Royale's Ranking -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 92.66%
    Goldfinger – 91.33%
    Dr. No – 88.66%
    Octopussy – 84.66%
    The Living Daylights – 84%
    Skyfall – 83.33%
    Thunderball – 82.66%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 82%
    Quantum of Solace – 81.33%
    GoldenEye – 79.33%
    The World Is Not Enough – 74.66%
    Moonraker – 72.66%
    Diamonds Are Forever – 72.66%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 67.33%

    Snap! Same as MR.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971

    /10
    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 10
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action – 7
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl – 10
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 9
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming – 6
    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles – 5
    15. Plausibility – 3
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing –2
    18. Tilt – 5

    123/150

    82%

  • GBFGBF
    edited July 2016 Posts: 3,195
    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971

    /10
    1. Direction – 5
    2. Screenplay – 6
    3. Script – 6
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 8
    7. Main Bond Girl - 5
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 10
    11. Cinematography – 6
    12. Fleming - 6

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 5
    15. Plausibility - 1
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 3


    97/150 = 64,66 %
  • Posts: 3,336
    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971

    /10
    1. Direction – 6
    2. Screenplay – 6
    3. Script – 7
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action - 5
    6. Main Villain – 4
    7. Main Bond Girl - 5
    8. Bond – 6
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 8
    11. Cinematography – 6
    12. Fleming - 5

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 5
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 2

    91/150
    60,66%
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,634
    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971

    /10
    1. Direction – 6
    2. Screenplay – 6
    3. Script – 5
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 3
    6. Main Villain – 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 4
    8. Bond – 7
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 10
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming - 7

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 5
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 5


    100/150 =66,67%

    DD's Ranking

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service, 1969 - 92,66%
    GoldenEye, 1995 - 86,00%
    Skyfall, 2012 - 84,00%
    The Living Daylights, 1987 - 83,33%
    Dr. No, 1962 – 82.67%
    Thunderball, 1965 - 79,33%
    Octopussy, 1983 - 78,66%
    Goldfinger, 1964 - 78,00%
    Quantum Of Solace, 2008 - 76,67%
    Moonraker, 1979 - 75,33%
    The Spy Who Loved Me, 1977 - 71,33%
    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971 - 66,67%
    The World Is Not Enough, 1999 - 60,67%
    The Man With The Golden Gun, 1974 - 60,00%

  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited August 2016 Posts: 6,806
    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971

    /10
    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 4
    3. Script – 8
    4. Plot – 4
    5. Action — 6
    6. Main Villain – 7
    7. Main Bond Girl — 5
    8. Bond – 6
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 8
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming — 5

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles — 3
    15. Plausibility — 1
    16. Pace — 3
    17. Editing — 3
    18. Tilt – 2

    89/150

    59,33 %

    GoldenGun's Rankings

    Goldfinger - 88
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 86,67
    The Living Daylights/GoldenEye - 82
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 75,33
    Dr. No - 74
    The Man with the Golden Gun - 73,33
    Thunderball/Skyfall - 70
    The World Is Not Enough - 68,67
    Quantum of Solace - 68
    Octopussy - 66
    Diamonds Are Forever - 59,33
    Moonraker - 57,33
  • Posts: 4,026
    Diamonds Are Forever

    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 10
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 7
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 10
    11. Cinematography – 8
    12. Fleming - 7

    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 5

    Total - 117/150 = 78%

    vzok's ranking:

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 92
    Octopussy - 82
    The Living Daylights - 80
    Diamonds Are Forever - 78
    GoldenEye - 74
    Skyfall - 74
    Dr No - 69.33
    Quantum Of Solace - 68
    Goldfinger - 68
    Thunderball - 67.33
    Moonraker - 66
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 64.66
    The World Is Not Enough - 60
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 58
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Just a disappointing 7 voters this this around. Let's see how DAF fares...

    Community Ratings 2016 -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 89.66%
    Goldfinger – 81.87%
    Dr. No – 80.88%
    The Living Daylights – 80.73%
    GoldenEye – 80.12%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 78.59%
    Octopussy – 77.73%
    Skyfall – 77.39%
    Quantum of Solace – 74%
    Thunderball – 73.27%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 69.6%
    The World Is Not Enough – 69.03%
    Diamonds Are Forever – 68.95%
    Moonraker – 66.81%   

    Congrats! DAF is our new penultimate movie!

    DAF was 22/23 with 56.05% in the 2014 game.

    James Bond will return...
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 6,806
    Can't wait to move on, what's next @royale65?
  • Posts: 4,026
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Can't wait to move on, what's next @royale65?


    Casino Royale 1967?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Sorry for the slight delay.

    Right, let us continue, from one oddity to the next....

    Die Another Day, 2002

    /10
    1. Direction – 4 (Brisk first half, yet Tamahori implodes during the second half)
    2. Screenplay – 5 (Again good first half..)
    3. Script – 4 (“Psychedelic face mask!”)
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action – 9 (Where DAD excels. I know it's silly, but I get thrills over the car chase)
    6. Main Villain – 6 (The idea was good at least)
    7. Main Bond Girl – 4
    8. Bond – 9 (Brossman hits of the park with this one)
    9. Sets – 8 (The Ice Palace is a throwback to the grand sets of old)
    10. Music – 8
    11. Cinematography – 8
    12. Fleming –3 (Despite the MR novel providing inspiration for the film)

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4 (The Pikelet baby!)
    14. Main Titles – 4 (Very novel)
    15. Plausibility – 2
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing –2 (Slow mo and speed ramping have no place in Bond)
    18. Tilt – 4


    94/150 = 62.66 %


    Royale's Ranking -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 92.66%
    Goldfinger – 91.33%
    Dr. No – 88.66%
    Octopussy – 84.66%
    The Living Daylights – 84%
    Skyfall – 83.33%
    Thunderball – 82.66%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 82%
    Quantum of Solace – 81.33%
    GoldenEye – 79.33%
    The World Is Not Enough – 74.66%
    Moonraker – 72.66%
    Diamonds Are Forever – 72.66%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 67.33%
    Die Another Day – 62.66%

    Yikes.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Die Another Day, 2002

    1. Direction – 3
    2. Screenplay – 2
    3. Script – 2
    4. Plot – 2
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 3
    7. Main Bond Girl - 2
    8. Bond – 6
    9. Sets – 5
    10. Music – 6
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming - 1

    13. Supporting Cast – 2
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 1
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt – 1

    58/150

    38.67%

    Ouch.
  • Posts: 4,026
    I think that is the first 1/10 I've seen. Just to be clear, is 1 the lowest score, or is it 0?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,634
    Die Another Day, 2002

    /10
    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 6
    3. Script – 7
    4. Plot – 5
    5. Action - 8
    6. Main Villain – 3
    7. Main Bond Girl - 3
    8. Bond – 7
    9. Sets – 8
    10. Music – 8
    11. Cinematography – 6
    12. Fleming - 3

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles - 4
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 3


    93/150 =62,00%

    DD's Ranking

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service, 1969 - 92,66%
    GoldenEye, 1995 - 86,00%
    Skyfall, 2012 - 84,00%
    The Living Daylights, 1987 - 83,33%
    Dr. No, 1962 – 82.67%
    Thunderball, 1965 - 79,33%
    Octopussy, 1983 - 78,66%
    Goldfinger, 1964 - 78,00%
    Quantum Of Solace, 2008 - 76,67%
    Moonraker, 1979 - 75,33%
    The Spy Who Loved Me, 1977 - 71,33%
    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971 - 66,67%
    Die Another Day, 2002 - 62,00%
    The World Is Not Enough, 1999 - 60,67%
    The Man With The Golden Gun, 1974 - 60,00%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    vzok wrote: »
    I think that is the first 1/10 I've seen. Just to be clear, is 1 the lowest score, or is it 0?

    1 - 10

  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited August 2016 Posts: 6,806
    Die Another Day, 2002

    /10
    1. Direction – 5
    2. Screenplay – 4
    3. Script – 4
    4. Plot – 4
    5. Action — 7
    6. Main Villain – 6
    7. Main Bond Girl — 5
    8. Bond – 7
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 7
    11. Cinematography – 8
    12. Fleming — 5

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles — 2
    15. Plausibility — 1
    16. Pace — 3
    17. Editing — 2
    18. Tilt – 2

    82/150

    54,67%

    GoldenGun's Rankings

    Goldfinger - 88
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 86,67
    The Living Daylights/GoldenEye - 82
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 75,33
    Dr. No - 74
    The Man with the Golden Gun - 73,33
    Thunderball/Skyfall - 70
    The World Is Not Enough - 68,67
    Quantum of Solace - 68
    Octopussy - 66
    Diamonds Are Forever - 59,33
    Moonraker - 57,33
    Die Another Day - 54,67
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,195
    Die Another Day, 2002

    /10
    1. Direction – 3
    2. Screenplay – 3
    3. Script – 5
    4. Plot – 3
    5. Action - 6 (Sword fight is good)
    6. Main Villain – 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 1 (Read this,... bitch!!)
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 3
    10. Music – 5
    11. Cinematography – 5
    12. Fleming - 2

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 1
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt – 3

    65/150 = 43,33 %
  • Posts: 2,400
    Oh boy!

    Die Another Day, 2002

    /10
    1. Direction – 2
    2. Screenplay – 3
    3. Script – 1 (Yo mama? Seriously? Mr. "Kil"?)
    4. Plot – 2
    5. Action - 4
    6. Main Villain – 2
    7. Main Bond Girl - 1
    8. Bond – 5
    9. Sets – 4
    10. Music – 4
    11. Cinematography – 1
    12. Fleming - 2 (solely for the "Bond captured" segment)

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 1
    14. Main Titles - 1
    15. Plausibility - 1
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 1
    18. Tilt – 1 (I hate this film. Hate hate hate hate it.)

    39/150 = 26%
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    edited August 2016 Posts: 2,721
    Die Another Day, 2002

    /10
    1. Direction – 3 (worst Bond director - as a fellow countryman I take no joy in typing that either!)
    2. Screenplay – 4
    3. Script – 1 (the dialogue is one of the worst aspects of this film)
    4. Plot – 3 (bonkers and plotholes that stops it dead in its tracks)
    5. Action - 5 (car chase is decent and fencing scene a standout)
    6. Main Villain – 4 (his plot is stupid, but Stephens does the role pretty well)
    7. Main Bond Girl - 2 (one of the worst - berry is an incredibly over rated actress in general)
    8. Bond – 4 (Brosnan is awful in this - dipping into full Irish accent for whole scenes)
    9. Sets – 4 (ice palace - for its stupidity - is realised quite well.)
    10. Music – 5 (one of the best aspects of the film - the more I listen to Arnold the more I like him)
    11. Cinematography – 3 (green screen madness!)
    12. Fleming - 2 (bond captured, interrogated and released - MWTGG. Oh what this could have been!)

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 2 (plus one for rosamund pike shes great - everyone else is bad - MR kill, zao, Michael madsen)
    14. Main Titles - 3 (I actually like the titles to this - in the story they tell. My favourite of the Brosnan era. Minus one point for having the Madonna song accompany it though.)
    15. Plausibility - 1 (all of it is farcical)
    16. Pace - 3 (the dialogue editing is some of the worst - lots of air - but otherwise the film moves quite well)
    17. Editing - 1 (speed ramping, green screen madness.)
    18. Tilt – 1 (worst bond film ever)

    50/150 = 33.3%
  • Posts: 1,595
    Die Another Day, 2002

    /10
    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 5
    3. Script – 3
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action - 7 (some great stuff, overtakes the awful shit)
    6. Main Villain – 4
    7. Main Bond Girl -1 (the worst)
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 6
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming - 5

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles - 5
    15. Plausibility - 1
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 3


    88 / 150
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited August 2016 Posts: 4,460
    @royale65. It was inpossible for me to vote earlier, so still my vote for DAF:

    Diamonds Are Forever

    Direction - 8
    Screenplay - 7
    Script - 6
    Plot - 6
    Action - 8
    Main Villain - 7
    Main Bond Girl - 6
    Bond - 9
    Sets - 7
    Music - 5
    Cinematography - 8
    Fleming - 6

    Supporting Cast 4
    Main Titles - 3
    Plausibility - 3
    Pace - 4
    Editing - 3
    Tilt - 3

    103/150 (68,66%)

    Die Another Day i wil try to do tomorrow.
  • Posts: 4,026
    Die Another Day

    1. Direction – 4
    2. Screenplay – 6
    3. Script – 4
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 6
    7. Main Bond Girl - 4
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 5
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming - 5

    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 3
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt – 2

    Total - 85/150 = 56.67%

    vzok's ranking:

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 92
    Octopussy - 82
    The Living Daylights - 80
    Diamonds Are Forever - 78
    GoldenEye - 74
    Skyfall - 74
    Dr No - 69.33
    Quantum Of Solace - 68
    Goldfinger - 68
    Thunderball - 67.33
    Moonraker - 66
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 64.66
    The World Is Not Enough - 60
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 58
    Die Another Day - 56.67
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Rounding up tomorrow chaps!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Back up to a more respectable 10 voters. Let us see how DAD fares.

    Community Ratings 2016 -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 89.66%
    Goldfinger – 81.87%
    Dr. No – 80.88%
    The Living Daylights – 80.73%
    GoldenEye – 80.12%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 78.59%
    Octopussy – 77.73%
    Skyfall – 77.39%
    Quantum of Solace – 74%
    Thunderball – 73.27%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 69.6%
    The World Is Not Enough – 69.03%
    Diamonds Are Forever – 68.95%
    Moonraker – 66.81%   
    Die Another Day – 49.96%

    I think we have a new bottom dweller.

    DAD was 23/23 with 39.92% in the 2014 game.

    James Bond will return...
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Time for another Dalton methinks...

    Licence To Kill, 1989

    /10
    1. Direction – 9 (Probably Glen's finest)
    2. Screenplay – 9 (Especially like the dynamic between our protagonist and our antagonist)
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 8
    5. Action – 9 (The Wavekrest escape is thrilling)
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl – 8 (Probably the best of Bond's comrades in arms)
    8. Bond – 9 (Just a slight bit of overacting by the Dalts')
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 8
    11. Cinematography – 7
    12. Fleming – 8

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles – 4 (an improvement over Binder's 80's efforts)
    15. Plausibility – 4
    16. Pace - 5
    17. Editing –4
    18. Tilt – 5


    128/150 = 85.33%


    Royale's Ranking -

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 92.66%
    Goldfinger – 91.33%
    Dr. No – 88.66%
    Licence to Kill – 85.33%
    Octopussy – 84.66%
    The Living Daylights – 84%
    Skyfall – 83.33%
    Thunderball – 82.66%
    The Spy Who Loved Me – 82%
    Quantum of Solace – 81.33%
    GoldenEye – 79.33%
    The World Is Not Enough – 74.66%
    Moonraker – 72.66%
    Diamonds Are Forever – 72.66%
    The Man With The Golden Gun – 67.33%
    Die Another Day – 62.66%

    Not outstanding in one particular category, but LTK's consistency won out in the end. That's about where LTK ends up in my ranking anyways.
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