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  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I saw SPECTRE again this morning. I don't plan on revisiting these films for a few years, I need to look at them with a fresh eye, so this ranking will stand until then.

    1. GOLDFINGER (1964)
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE (1963)
    3. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE (1969)
    4. CASINO ROYALE (2006)
    5. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME (1977)
    6. DR. NO (1962)
    7. LIVE AND LET DIE (1973)
    8. THUNDERBALL (1965)
    9. SKYFALL (2012)
    10. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE (1967)
    11. QUANTUM OF SOLACE (2008)
    12. LICENCE TO KILL (1989)
    13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (1981)
    14. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN (1974)
    15. GOLDENEYE (1995)
    16. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH (1999)
    17. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (1987)
    18. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER (1971)
    19. A VIEW TO A KILL (1985)
    20. TOMORROW NEVER DIES (1997)
    21. OCTOPUSSY (1983)
    22. DIE ANOTHER DAY (2002)
    23. MOONRAKER (1979)
    24. SPECTRE (2015)



    No joke here, I dislike SP that much. It's sloppy, tedious and damned poorly made. It's really taken a toll on my joy and enthusiasm for the world of Bond.

    Elaborate please. You know what Bond films are about no?
  • lalala2004lalala2004
    Posts: 162
    I haven't done this in a while, so who knows what changes I've made.

    1. The Living Daylights
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Goldfinger
    5. Casino Royale
    6. Skyfall
    7. Dr. No
    8. Goldeneye
    9. Live and Let Die
    10. Quantum of Solace
    11. Spectre
    12. License to Kill
    13. For Your Eyes Only
    14. Octopussy
    15. Tomorrow Never Dies
    16. A View to a Kill
    17. Moonraker
    18. Thunderball
    19. Diamonds are Forever
    20. The Spy Who Loved Me
    21. You Only Live Twice
    21. The Man with the Golden Gun
    23. Die Another Day
    24. The World is Not Enough

    It might change if you asked me tomorrow.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,258
    Don't pick on Birdleson. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,595
    Reposting this as I've seen Spectre a second time. Will post my list once more a few months down the road when I've revisited a few others again. Couple changes made from my gut:


    1. THUNDERBALL
    2. GOLDFINGER
    3. DR. NO
    4. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    5. GOLDENEYE
    6. CASINO ROYALE
    7. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    8. OCTOPUSSY
    9. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    10. MOONRAKER
    11. LIVE AND LET DIE
    12. SKYFALL
    13. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    14. A VIEW TO A KILL
    15. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    16. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    17. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    18. LICENCE TO KILL
    19. SPECTRE *
    20. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    21. DIE ANOTHER DAY
    22. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    23. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    24. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    25. NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN

    * There's a lot that I like, but after two viewings the flaws really start to show. The writing for this movie, which I maintain is of utmost importance for films like these, ranges from mediocre to downright terrible. I despise the Oberhauser "angle" that I won't spoil in this thread. I hate it more than almost anything in the series. So contrived it hurts, so very much the antithesis of everything Spectre is trying to be (a throwback, more aloof, traditional, etc.). It's just more of the same "digging into Bond's past" I'm sick of in the Craig era. On that note, Christoph Waltz commits the cardinal sin for a Bond villain -- he's boring. Didn't find him menacing or spooky or even over the top fun like some other Bond villains (Grey's Blofeld being one example).

    Craig's performance is a mixed bag. Perhaps his weakest of the four (although I do think he's better at humor than he gives himself credit for). That said, about half of the humor worked for me, and when it didn't, it really didn't.

    The last 20 minutes or so are awful, and anti-climactic.

    Everything on the train, however, makes the film worth the price of admission. Love, love, love those 5-10 minutes. Like I said, there is a lot I like (The PTS, Lea Seydoux, SPECTRE meeting, Bautista, few other things I can't say because they are spoilers).
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,595
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I am pretty much in line with you, except my "likes" are fewer.

    I definitely didn't outright dislike it overall (I think I would enjoy it more once I have it on Blu-ray so I can stop it before the final act) but yeah, it seems like you and I had similar reactions.

    Dialogue was often painfully bad (a shame, too, when you've got actors like Craig and Seydoux and Waltz delivering those lines). "Kite dancing in a hurricane," however, remains one of my favorite lines in the entire franchise.

    Perhaps what disappoints me the most is that Spectre so badly wants to be the Bond film that I've been asking for since 2006 - which is throwing Daniel Craig in a Connery/Moore style Bond film and just seeing what happens. But something just doesn't feel right. Maybe it's the tone shifts. Maybe it's the fact that the film wants to have its cake and eat it too.

    I think the producers feel that the audience needs some personal connection with Bond to whatever is going on to really invest which I think is bullshit. I find it almost more compelling if it's just a man, out on a mission, doing his job and that's it.
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
    Posts: 3,236
    ThighsOfXenia wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I am pretty much in line with you, except my "likes" are fewer.


    Perhaps what disappoints me the most is that Spectre so badly wants to be the Bond film that I've been asking for since 2006 - which is throwing Daniel Craig in a Connery/Moore style Bond film and just seeing what happens. But something just doesn't feel right. Maybe it's the tone shifts. Maybe it's the fact that the film wants to have its cake and eat it too.

    This is basically my gripe with it. And then they do those "this time's it's PERSONAL" bits as ham-handedly as possible. How many times do we need some of these angles?

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Birdleson wrote: »
    ThighsOfXenia wrote: »
    .

    Perhaps what disappoints me the most is that Spectre so badly wants to be the Bond film that I've been asking for since 2006 - which is throwing Daniel Craig in a Connery/Moore style Bond film and just seeing what happens. But something just doesn't feel right. Maybe it's the tone shifts. Maybe it's the fact that the film wants to have its cake and eat it too.

    That's what I wanted as well. All along. And I also, beyond my specific criticisms, just felt that the film was "off" somehow from the start.

    Yes, it's definitely the tonal shifts. They are jarring (at least on first viewing).

    I was trying to remember what it reminded me of, and it came to me today. Kingsman. It reminds me a lot of Kingsman, which also had strange shifts in tone which came out of nowhere.

    It's predictable in places, and then throws you a curveball which you have to let sink in and process. How dare they?

    That's why I think it needs a few viewings to let it all sink in. This one won't give you the full picture on first, or even second viewing imho.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,595
    @Birdleson I absolutely agree. I can't put my finger on it, which I know is a flimsy argument, but something just felt a little "off." I'd never put that in a review (in fact, I just wrote one), but I feel it. I blame the writing, which is quite poor.

    I don't blame Craig. I liked his performance all in all, although I can see why some say he looks sick of the role (that said, it actually aided the performance in a way I think, as he seems extremely laid back and confident, which I like).
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    @Birdleson, I hope you don't let one bad experience ruin your enthusiasm of the DC era. I was disappointed as well but still hold out hope that he can deliver the goods one last time.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I still have great regard for his work in the first three, but this does tarnish the era. I do not want to see anymore from him or Mendes. I don't care for the knotted up state that they've gotten the franchise into. Every case we've seen Bond (Craig) involved in has its roots in an organization that is run by Bond's proxy brother who's motivating factor has been a deep-rooted anger and resentment at Bond for taking the affection of his father? So if Bond had never existed then MI6 really wouldn't have had much to worry about then. Stupid.

    No more Mendes, no more links to the past, no more sidekicks. Six of the last nine Bond films (actually seven, retroactively due to the "revelations" in SPECTRE) have revolved around issues springing out of prior mistakes or tragedies involving Bond or M. Enough.

    Abso-bloody-lutely.

    It's a shame, really, that SPECTRE was such a disappointment. I've never been Craig's biggest fan, but in recent Bondathons, I had really started to dig his take on Bond, with CR managing to break into the upper echelons of my ranking and SF even breaking into my top ten. And SPECTRE certainly taints those films somewhat now. I'll still enjoy both CR and SF, but they will never feel the same as the events of SPECTRE will now forever be ingrained in my mind. What a shame.
    And what's worse, SPECTRE has even tainted the character of ESB, which is unforgivable. Reboot or not, such a drastic change to the character, and a shit one at that, has left me frustrated and perplexed that Babs and co. even went through with it.

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    @MayDayDiVicenzo

    I was looking up your ranking again. Sure one of the most interesting ones.
    Also your input is always interesting to read :)

    If I look at your ranking I can understand that you rank Spectre that low. It makes sense to me.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,595
    Yeah, I think Spectre taints a few things, as you've both mentioned, that I find frustrating. And I agree 100% with @Birdleson on both paragraphs
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,130
    All right this is my updated Ranking of the movies

    1 Goldeneye
    2 The world is not enough
    3 Tomorrow never dies
    4 Die Another day
    5 Dr No
    6 Thunderball
    7 Goldfinger
    8 The living daylights
    9 The Spy who loved
    10 Casino Royale
    11 Spectre
    12 From Russia with love
    13 Skyfall
    14 Licence to kill
    15 Moonraker
    16 you only live Twice
    17 for your eyes only
    18 diamonds are forever
    19 quantum of Solace
    20 Octopussy
    21 the man with the golden gun
    22 On her Majesty's secret service
    23 a view to kill
    24 Live and let die
  • dinovelvetdinovelvet
    Posts: 709
    Szonana wrote: »
    All right this is my updated Ranking of the movies

    1 Goldeneye
    2 The world is not enough
    3 Tomorrow never dies
    4 Die Another day

    @-)
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
    Posts: 1,130
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Szonana wrote: »
    All right this is my updated Ranking of the movies

    1 Goldeneye
    2 The world is not enough
    3 Tomorrow never dies
    4 Die Another day

    @-)

    What can i say ?

    Sorry to disappoint you but the 4 films Pierce made are my favorites and the ones i enjoyed the most, besides no one asked about being objective.

  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Szonana wrote: »
    All right this is my updated Ranking of the movies

    1 Goldeneye
    2 The world is not enough
    3 Tomorrow never dies
    4 Die Another day

    @-)

    I totally agree @dinovelvet !!
    What ridiculous top 4 when everybody knows that the proper order is:
    1. Goldeneye
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Die Another Day
    4. The World Is Not Enough
    !!
    :))
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,130
    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    dinovelvet wrote: »
    Szonana wrote: »
    All right this is my updated Ranking of the movies

    1 Goldeneye
    2 The world is not enough
    3 Tomorrow never dies
    4 Die Another day

    @-)

    I totally agree @dinovelvet !!
    What ridiculous top 4 when everybody knows that the proper order is:
    1. Goldeneye
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Die Another Day
    4. The World Is Not Enough
    !!
    :))

    Yes sir

    :))

    I will change it inmediatley.
  • AntiLocqueBrakesAntiLocqueBrakes The edge
    Posts: 538
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I didn't want o get into it too much. @Crazysoul95 , my opinion of QUANTUM OF SOLACE has definitely improved, but I never out and out disliked it, it's not comparable. I'm no newcomer to film, I've studied and taught about film and film history for many years. I'm not bragging, I just want it clear that I don't approach movies flippantly or lightly, based on prior expectations, homages or surface glitz. SPECTRE is a bad film, on many levels, from the jarring chunks of expository dialogue, to the paper thin narrative held together by awkward references to the past, stiff humor, to unnecessary and cliched twists. And I was bored. My problems with this movie will not disappear with time, though I may soften my stance. @bondjames , my expectations were not particularly high, I've been through the mill with this series since 1965 and am aware of potential disappointments (1979), but I did expect to enjoy it.

    You are a kite, dancing in a hurricane Mr. @Birdleson
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Make that two.
  • CraterGunsCraterGuns
    Posts: 615
    Nitpicks aside -- when aren't there any? -- I really enjoyed SPECTRE... Solid follow-up to SKYFALL. My Bond Film ranking as it now stands (after only one viewing of SP):

    01. Casino Royale (2006)
    02. Goldfinger
    03. From Russia With Love
    04. Skyfall
    05. The Living Daylights
    06. Spectre
    07. Thunderball
    08. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    09. The Spy Who Loved Me
    10. GoldenEye
    11. Licence to Kill
    12. Dr. No
    13. Quantum of Solace
    14. For Your Eyes Only
    15. Tomorrow Never Dies
    16. You Only Live Twice
    17. Live and Let Die
    18. The Man With the Golden Gun
    19. Diamonds Are Forever
    20. The World is Not Enough
    21. A View to a Kill
    22. Octopussy
    23. Moonraker
    24. Die Another Day
    25. Never Say Never Again
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,588
    Well, it's official. I don't care what anybody says - criticize me -
    put a drill in my head
    - but Spectre is a brilliant film and is now in first spot (tied with CR) as my favorite Bond movie in my updated ranking.

    1. Spectre, Casino Royale
    3. Skyfall
    4. Goldeneye
    5. From Russia with Love
    6. Goldfinger
    7. The Spy who Loved Me
    8. The Living Daylights
    9. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    10. Live and Let Die
    11. Dr. No
    12. The World is Not Enough
    13. Moonraker
    14. Thunderball
    15. Quantum of Solace
    16. Tomorrow Never Dies
    17. You Only Live Twice
    18. Octopussy
    19. A View to a Kill
    20. License to Kill
    21. The Man With the Golden Gun
    22. Diamonds are Forever
    23. Die Another Day
    24. For Your Eyes Only (I'm getting killed for this, aren't I?)
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    @jake24

    Bravo! =D>

    Your No 24 isn't as disturbing as your No 3 :))
    but with Spectre at No 1 ALL IS FORGIVEN :))
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    Posts: 3,336
    Quess For your eyes only isn't for everyone..
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,588
    Crazysoul95 wrote: »
    Quess For your eyes only isn't for everyone..

    Not for my eyes anyway.
  • mepal1mepal1
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,098
    Szonana wrote: »
    All right this is my updated Ranking of the movies

    1 Goldeneye
    2 The world is not enough
    3 Tomorrow never dies
    4 Die Another day
    5 Dr No
    6 Thunderball
    7 Goldfinger
    8 The living daylights
    9 The Spy who loved
    10 Casino Royale
    11 Spectre
    12 From Russia with love
    13 Skyfall
    14 Licence to kill
    15 Moonraker
    16 you only live Twice
    17 for your eyes only
    18 diamonds are forever
    19 quantum of Solace
    20 Octopussy
    21 the man with the golden gun
    22 On her Majesty's secret service
    23 a view to kill
    24 Live and let die

    Please tell me this list is a joke!..........you have 0 out of 24 for correct placings! :))
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,079
    I agree. FYEO to me is the black sheep of the Moore films.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,687
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I agree. FYEO to me is the black sheep of the Moore films.
    For ME that would be MR...

    :-?
  • mepal1mepal1
    Posts: 1,098
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I agree. FYEO to me is the black sheep of the Moore films.

    FYEO ........ may have a soundtrack, that seems dated now ..........but the film has a good story ...........and some fantastic action scenes!

  • lalala2004lalala2004
    Posts: 162
    @jake24 No ties, come on, now. Gun to your head, what's your number 1? (Hypothetical, not an actual threat ;) )
  • mepal1mepal1
    edited November 2015 Posts: 1,098
    lalala2004 wrote: »
    @jake24 No ties, come on, now. Gun to your head, what's your number 1? (Hypothetical, not an actual threat ;) )

    I can't believe this member has FYEO as the worst Bond film ever. Talk about having a death wish!

    Looks like we may have to send Mr Hinx to have a word with this person! :)
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