Bond movie ranking (Simple list, no details)

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  • DrKaufmanDrKaufman At a health clinic conveniently near a NATO air base
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Some similarities to my list, most notably CR at #1 and GE at #8. Biggest differences would be TB, LALD, DN, and FRWL; all of those are in my Top 10 as of now. But I like that list. We definitely agree what the general weakest entries are.

    Thank you @FoxRox; as I said I've always loved the Young films so having them in the middle there is really strange to me - I chalk it up to oversaturation; they're the ones I watch the most, so I found myself just passively watching them, whilst actively looking for the positives in pretty much everything else (if that makes sense).

    And funnily enough LALD has never been in my top ten (it's normally been around 12th placed), but I do always enjoy watching it, mostly for Moore's performance.
  • DrKaufmanDrKaufman At a health clinic conveniently near a NATO air base
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Pretty decent list @DrKaufman , though it is sad to see LALD and TB far so back. And of course you are being far too generous to SP.

    Thanks @Birdleson; TB and LALD's placing are really the worst casualties of how anomalous this watch has been for me - although LALD has always been around eleventh or twelfth placed in my eyes, the lowest TB has been before this is seventh, so it's a great shame where it has ended up.

    And I happily admit SP's placement is definitely being generous - it ended up at 21st entirely due to my renewed appreciation for Hoyte van Hoytema's cinematography, and also because I felt the Rome sequence (up until 'Cuckoo') was remarkably well directed, lit, and acted; I think the whole concept of classic Bond mixed with a little bit of Eyes Wide Shut is really interesting, and I'm a big fan of the whole business with the whispering and holding off on letting Waltz speak - it's wonderfully suspenseful and a great introduction to the modern incarnation of SPECTRE. If the rest of the film had captured something of that mood, instead of going off on awful personal tangents, it could have been excellent.
  • @bondjames Absolutely devastated to see how far TB has fallen in your estimation. Kidding, great list.

    @DrKaufman Nice list also.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @ThighsOfXenia thanks. RE: TB, I'm sure it's a temporary decline on account of an atypically less than perfect viewing (I must have just been tired). I like too many things about that film for it to be out of the top five for long.

    @DrKaufman, that is a neat list. It's nice to see FYEO in the top 10. That's a film I see many times in the 11-15 spot in member's rankings for some reason, along with LALD. Hoping to see the great FRWL move back up in time.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 15,801
    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. THUNDERBALL
    3. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    4. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    5. DR NO
    6. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    7. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    8. LIVE AND LET DIE
    9. SKYFALL
    10. OCTOPUSSY/NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    11. A VIEW TO A KILL
    12. CASINO ROYALE 06
    13. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    14. GOLDENEYE
    15. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    16. LICENCE TO KILL
    17. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    18. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    19. MOONRAKER
    20. SPECTRE
    21. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    22. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    23. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    24. DIE ANOTHER DAY
  • Best villain rankings, by era:

    1) CONNERY: Blofeld, FRWL

    2) LAZENBY: Telly, of course.

    3) MOORE: Jaws, multiple films

    4) DALTON: Sanchez, TLK

    5) BROSNAN: Trevelyan, GE

    6) CRAIG: Le Chiffre, CR
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    I have posted on here before, but I shall do it again having recently completed a marathon rewatch. Unsure if my rankings have changed much.

    1.The Spy Who Loved Me
    2.On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. Goldeneye
    4. From Russia With Love
    5. You Only Live Twice
    6. Casino Royale
    7.Dr.No
    8. For Your Eyes Only
    9. The Living Daylights
    10.Licence To Kill
    11.Thunderball
    12. Goldfinger
    13. Tomorrow Never Dies
    14. Moonraker
    15. The Man With The Golden Gun
    16. Live And Let Die
    17. Skyfall
    18. AVTAK
    19. Octopussy
    20. Die Another Day
    21. Diamonds Are Forever
    22. Spectre
    23. TWINE
    24. QOS

  • edited November 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Ow QOS .....Ow OP ....Ow SF !!!
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    OP and Skyfall do have things to like about them, but they aren't among my favourites as you can see.

    QOS I flat out dislike, along with TWINE.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    @barryt007 to expand a little.
    OP: It's an ok, solid film. I think the location of India was somewhat wasted. I find Khan to be a little too understated but Orlov to be far too hammy. There is just something missing in this one for me. It neither has the lavish beauty of TSWLM or MR, nor the intrigue of FYEO. Just missed the mark.

    Skyfall: It does have a lovely atmosphere, particularly in Shanghai and Macau. Very well shot too. I just find it to be extremely pretentious, a cardinal sin for me in a Bond film. The much lauded villain Silva felt like a weaker rehash of The Joker from The Dark Knight, particularly in the character beats(having an issue with the authority figure rather than the hero, getting caught intentionally, a feeling of random actions) I also think Bond being out of touch and burnt out just a few years(and presumably missions) after CR frankly ridiculous.

    QOS: My dislike of QOS is strongly linked to my love of CR. It just feels like such a missed opportunity. I despise the editing, the pace of the film feels rushed.Green has virtually no screen time.The only moment it takes to breath is The Tosca scene, which is pretty much the only part I like.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Roadphill wrote: »
    @barryt007 to expand a little.
    OP: It's an ok, solid film. I think the location of India was somewhat wasted. I find Khan to be a little too understated but Orlov to be far too hammy. There is just something missing in this one for me. It neither has the lavish beauty of TSWLM or MR, nor the intrigue of FYEO. Just missed the mark.

    Skyfall: It does have a lovely atmosphere, particularly in Shanghai and Macau. Very well shot too. I just find it to be extremely pretentious, a cardinal sin for me in a Bond film. The much lauded villain Silva felt like a weaker rehash of The Joker from The Dark Knight, particularly in the character beats(having an issue with the authority figure rather than the hero, getting caught intentionally, a feeling of random actions) I also think Bond being out of touch and burnt out just a few years(and presumably missions) after CR frankly ridiculous.

    QOS: My dislike of QOS is strongly linked to my love of CR. It just feels like such a missed opportunity. I despise the editing, the pace of the film feels rushed.Green has virtually no screen time.The only moment it takes to breath is The Tosca scene, which is pretty much the only part I like.

    All fair points and I can see where you are coming from with the 2 points I have highlighted above.
    Orlov is over-acting in parts but just makes me laugh for it,i think Berkoff was high on weed during filming !!

    But yes,i hate the idea of this burnt out Bond after just 2 films (and they were based on the same day with the end of CR and the PTS of QOS ).
    He cant just suddenly be burnt out and 'old dog new tricks','Its a young mans game','both played out' etc,so I fully support you on that .
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    @barryt007 Absolutely. I know Skyfall is adored by some, and I can see why. It just isn't for me.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    The whole idea of Bond being burnt out isn't a terrible idea for Craig's Bond. I just think it was way too soon (3 films in? Come on.) and that it should have been saved for his last film.

    If there had been a film between QOS and SF showing Bond in his prime, then I don't think it would be so jarring.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That didn't bother me at all. I may be unique here, but I don't need continuity between Bond films. The fact that his corresponding persona/take on the character worked within each individual film (first three, at least) is more than good enough for me.

    Continuity doesn't bother me either normally,with any of the other Bonds,but it has been rammed down our throats constantly during Craig's run,thats the problem.

    You cant do continuity with films that are 5 years apart without seeming arrogant and presumptuous to me.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That didn't bother me at all. I may be unique here, but I don't need continuity between Bond films. The fact that his corresponding persona/take on the character worked within each individual film (first three, at least) is more than good enough for me.

    Continuity doesn't bother me either normally,with any of the other Bonds,but it has been rammed down our throats constantly during Craig's run,thats the problem.

    You cant do continuity with films that are 5 years apart without seeming arrogant and presumptuous to me.

    Succinctly put
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That didn't bother me at all. I may be unique here, but I don't need continuity between Bond films. The fact that his corresponding persona/take on the character worked within each individual film (first three, at least) is more than good enough for me.

    Continuity doesn't bother me either normally,with any of the other Bonds,but it has been rammed down our throats constantly during Craig's run,thats the problem.

    You cant do continuity with films that are 5 years apart without seeming arrogant and presumptuous to me.

    Exactly. Continuity never mattered before the Craig films. However, that's no longer the case unfortunately.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    That didn't bother me at all. I may be unique here, but I don't need continuity between Bond films. The fact that his corresponding persona/take on the character worked within each individual film (first three, at least) is more than good enough for me.

    Continuity doesn't bother me either normally,with any of the other Bonds,but it has been rammed down our throats constantly during Craig's run,thats the problem.

    You cant do continuity with films that are 5 years apart without seeming arrogant and presumptuous to me.

    Spot on, Barry!
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    I have a very good feeling Bond 25 will be quite standalone.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 15,801
    Another ranking very soon after the last. My most recent viewings of some of the Bonds have elevated those films. My least appreciated Bond, SP is gradually climbing it's way up the ladder.
    Also AVTAK has made it's way into my top 10 just pushing OP down a bit. Seems I like the Bond actors' respective 1st, 5th, 6th and 7th outings close together. Interestingly, five of the 1st outings are ranked together and are now in my top 10.


    1. THUNDERBALL
    2. GOLDFINGER
    3. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    4. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    5. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    6. DR NO
    7. CASINO ROYALE 06
    8. LIVE AND LET DIE
    9. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    10. A VIEW TO A KILL/NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN
    11. OCTOPUSSY
    12. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    13. GOLDENEYE
    14. LICENCE TO KILL
    15. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    16. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    17. SPECTRE
    18. SKYFALL
    19. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH/ CR 54
    20. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    21. MOONRAKER
    22. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    23. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    24. DIE ANOTHER DAY/CR 67
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Odd to see TB rise that high. I believe that it does have the best dialogue in the franchise and great performances, particularly from Connery.

    It was my number one all throughout the Brosnan era, actually. Back then, due no doubt to Claudine Auger. It's always remained at least a top 10 for me, but tonight's viewing elevated it to first place.
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    @Birdleson I hope I’m right too.

    @ToTheRight I like to see that kind of love for TB. It’s an absolutely excellent Bond film. Connery is in top form, and it has my favorite overall collection of Bond girls and is probably the second-best depiction of the SPECTRE organization after FRWL. Also one of the best soundtracks of the series I believe. Can’t go wrong with it.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    Thunderball is a top 10 entry for me, but not top 5. I agree about Connery though. He was at his absolute swaggering best in this one.

    I would argue this is probably the most 'Bond like' performance in the whole series.
  • edited November 2018 Posts: 12,258
    TB is also a perfect cross between the styles of FRWL and GF I think. I definitely can respect the choice to have it as the #1 Bond film.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I'm a huge TB fan too. Just an exceptional Bond film all round. My respect, admiration and appreciation for it began far before many of the other Bond films which occupy my top 10.

    As a kid I used to watch it from time to time on cold, dark, rainy autumn nights in London after school and it whisked me away vicariously to sunnier climates and locales, providing respite. I actually became an avid swimmer on account of the film.

    Baywatch did the same thing (loved that show).
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Struggled with my listing this time after an extended Bondathon. I love all the Bond films in varying degrees. I don't dislike any.
    GE was the biggest drop and LTK the suprising riser.
    SP is a difficult one to place at the moment.

    1. GOLDFINGER
    2. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
    3. DR NO
    4. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS
    5. CASINO ROYALE
    6. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE
    7. THUNDERBALL
    8. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    9. SKYFALL
    10. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY
    11. TOMORROW NEVER DIES
    12. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME
    13. OCTOPUSSY
    14. LICENCE TO KILL
    15. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH
    16. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE
    17. GOLDENEYE
    18. MOONRAKER
    19. SPECTRE
    20. LIVE AND LET DIE
    21. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN
    22. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
    23. A VIEW TO A KILL
    24. DIE ANOTHER DAY



  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    This was my ranking from December 2017.

    1. Dr.No
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. The Living Daylights
    5. Octopussy
    6. Casino Royale
    7. Goldfinger
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me
    9. Thunderball
    10. For Your Eyes Only
    11. You Only Live Twice
    12. GoldenEye
    13. Live And Let Die
    14. Spectre
    15. Licence To Kill
    16. Diamonds Are Forever
    17. Skyfall
    18. Moonraker
    19. Die Another Day
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun
    21. Tomorrow Never Dies
    22. A View To A Kill
    23. Quantum Of Solace
    24. The World Is Not Enough


    After watching a few Bond films recently, I feel the list needs to be amended a little.

    1. Dr.No
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    4. Octopussy
    5. Goldfinger
    6. Casino Royale
    7. The Living Daylights
    8. The Spy Who Loved Me
    9. Thunderball
    10. You Only Live Twice
    11. For Your Eyes Only
    12. Live And Let Die
    13. Skyfall
    14. GoldenEye
    15. Diamonds Are Forever
    16. Spectre
    17. Licence To Kill
    18. The Man With The Golden Gun
    19. A View To A Kill
    20. Die Another Day
    21. Moonraker
    22. Tomorrow Never Dies
    23. Quantum Of Solace
    24. The World Is Not Enough



    I feel a lot of the films from the 60's, 70's and 80's had much more of an entertaining fun factor. The last 20 years or so seem to have lost that somewhat.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    A most excellent top ten @Benny. I salute you!
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    Nice to see DR NO a the top as well.
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    The Thunderball love pleases me.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @LeonardPine -- that's a pretty solid top 10!
    @Benny-- interesting top ten, where I'm with you on most, and find your number four refreshing. I like OP and I think it's Moore's best. However, I don't think it could find itself inside my top five, but I'm glad there's someone out there giving it this kind of love, lol!
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