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The most disappointing Bond movie?

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  • Goldeneye95Goldeneye95
    Posts: 546
    DAF was a letdown for me.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    The owner of the cinema did tell me that this was not a one of but in every showing people walked out during the break and that a lot of complaining was about the editing, the unBondlike story and the incomprehensible actionscenes.

    QOS has its share of flaws but unBondlike story? It is suitably large scale enough and just out there yet believable enough to be pretty much spot on as a Bond story, IMO.

    I've never heard of walking out during the break either. It's a film! What break?

    It's not very common at all now (at least in the UK it isn't, they still do it in some villages and small towns but you won't find a cinema in a big city having one) but intervels during films at the cinema used to be a fairly common thing.

    Gave people a chance to stretch their legs and go to the toilet while the cinema try to make some extra cash by sending people in with ice cream to sell.

    I think they still have them in some countries. So they probably still have intervals where @SaintMark lives, and so when he went to see QOS there were people walking out during the break.

    Where does he live? The 70's?
  • ohfilms1ohfilms1
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    For some reason I say FYEO is my least favorite Bond film. But that may be by a 'Delicatessen in Stainless Steel'
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    ohfilms1 wrote:
    For some reason I say FYEO is my least favorite Bond film. But that may be by a 'Delicatessen in Stainless Steel'

    That makes it your least favorite Bond release ? Because of that ?

  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    GE would be mine, having been in the minority at the time liking Dalton's 2 entries and feeling the character was reflecting Fleming's Bond for the first time in years.

    Dalton bought an element of menace back which Craig then also returned in 2006, for me GE was at the time was the one when I walked out of the cinema utterly deflated.

    Now I realise it was the best that era had to offer but at the time I was gutted, every subsequent
    PB film I had no real expectation for as I could never see Pierce in the role and watched them non plussed.

    I know it was and is a series fav but to me it was the beginning of the end for a decade.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    Fair enough, in that I (also) don't sometimes understand all the praise that Goldeneye gets, although it is a decent adventure, but add to that, never really took to Brosnan's Bond either. 'Most disappointing bond movie' covers a lot of elements, but right now, would just go for A View to a Kill, or maybe Quantum of Solace. I think 'frustration' was the above all word for the latter though
  • ohfilms1ohfilms1
    Posts: 112
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    ohfilms1 wrote:
    For some reason I say FYEO is my least favorite Bond film. But that may be by a 'Delicatessen in Stainless Steel'

    That makes it your least favorite Bond release ? Because of that ?
    No, not at all, I just think it lags alot and sometimes I turn it off because of it laging. It's just not constantly playable to me

  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    Yes, the ending goes on forever. (Saint Cyrils sequence) You think the end will never arrive

    If you want a really frantic or enthralling Bond release go watch Moonraker or Live and Let Die I say. Can't go wrong there
  • ohfilms1ohfilms1
    Posts: 112
    No need, I've seen them all, I own the Bond 50 Blu-Ray set :D
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    The owner of the cinema did tell me that this was not a one of but in every showing people walked out during the break and that a lot of complaining was about the editing, the unBondlike story and the incomprehensible actionscenes.

    QOS has its share of flaws but unBondlike story? It is suitably large scale enough and just out there yet believable enough to be pretty much spot on as a Bond story, IMO.

    I've never heard of walking out during the break either. It's a film! What break?

    It's not very common at all now (at least in the UK it isn't, they still do it in some villages and small towns but you won't find a cinema in a big city having one) but intervels during films at the cinema used to be a fairly common thing.

    Gave people a chance to stretch their legs and go to the toilet while the cinema try to make some extra cash by sending people in with ice cream to sell.

    I think they still have them in some countries. So they probably still have intervals where @SaintMark lives, and so when he went to see QOS there were people walking out during the break.

    It is common enough with big films in cinema these days, since the cinema makes most of its money on food and drink it is quite normal to have an interval in the movie where the customers can go to the toilet but most importantly for the cinema they spend money on snacks, drinks, icecream etc.

  • delfloriadelfloria
    Posts: 1,707
    After so many 60's classics the return of Sean Connery was a let down in DAF.
  • actonsteveactonsteve
    Posts: 1,492
    The Brosnan era. The whole of it. A major step backwards after the Dalton era.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 14,831
    TheWizardOfIce wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Ludovico wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    The owner of the cinema did tell me that this was not a one of but in every showing people walked out during the break and that a lot of complaining was about the editing, the unBondlike story and the incomprehensible actionscenes.

    QOS has its share of flaws but unBondlike story? It is suitably large scale enough and just out there yet believable enough to be pretty much spot on as a Bond story, IMO.

    I've never heard of walking out during the break either. It's a film! What break?

    It's not very common at all now (at least in the UK it isn't, they still do it in some villages and small towns but you won't find a cinema in a big city having one) but intervels during films at the cinema used to be a fairly common thing.

    Gave people a chance to stretch their legs and go to the toilet while the cinema try to make some extra cash by sending people in with ice cream to sell.

    I think they still have them in some countries. So they probably still have intervals where @SaintMark lives, and so when he went to see QOS there were people walking out during the break.

    Where does he live? The 70's?

    I think it is a smart idea, for a commercial perspective.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,980
    To be candid, for fans, is there not a certain amount of feeling let down for every Bond film? Often it takes time, and multiple viewings, to truely sort out how we feel about any given film. The two Bonds that just blew me away when I saw them for the first time are The Spy Who Loved Me and Casino Royale.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 14,831
    talos7 wrote:
    To be candid, for fans, is there not a certain amount of feeling let down for every Bond film? Often it takes time, and multiple viewings, to truely sort out how we feel about any given film. The two Bonds that just blew me away when I saw them for the first time are The Spy Who Loved Me and Casino Royale.

    Some may take time to appreciate, or a certain maturity. I did not truly appreciate FRWL right away. But there is a difference between a movie growing on you and one you expected more from it.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    Ludovico wrote:
    talos7 wrote:
    To be candid, for fans, is there not a certain amount of feeling let down for every Bond film? Often it takes time, and multiple viewings, to truely sort out how we feel about any given film. The two Bonds that just blew me away when I saw them for the first time are The Spy Who Loved Me and Casino Royale.
    Some may take time to appreciate, or a certain maturity. I did not truly appreciate FRWL right away. But there is a difference between a movie growing on you and one you expected more from it.
    Funnily enough it took me two viewings to appreciate CR. Don't get me wrong...I knew it was a good film when I first saw it but it seemed so...different. Only after viewing #2 did I realise that it was excellent.
  • chrisMchrisM
    Posts: 59
    it will always be IMO

    AVTAK...Bond as geriatric...no thanks
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 14,831
    chrisM wrote:
    it will always be IMO

    AVTAK...Bond as geriatric...no thanks

    But does that makes it disappointing? I don't like AVTAK, but I was expecting to find it a weaker entry, because of Moore's age.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 5,979
    Ludovico wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    It must have been TWINE for me. Going to the theatre, I had expected something big, balsy and smart, all this based on the trailer of the film. What I got let me down in terms of 'big' (the PTS ended up being the biggest thing in the film for me), 'balsy' (nothing too daring or bold IMO) and even 'smart' since the unnecessarily complex script felt more like incompetence than brightness.

    Am I the only one who thought TWINE's PTS was NOT the best part of the movie? Some of it was good, but waaaayyyyy overlong and I did not find the boat chase that great.

    I agree with you. The TWINE PTS gets a bit of a pass here because it's set in London.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
    Posts: 3,564
    There are plenty of reasons I could give the nod here to DAF, MR, or DAD -- but I'll have to go with QoS. It was the first (and so far only!) time I've walked out of the theatre actually feeling depressed after seeing a new Bond movie. This reaction was specially disappointing after the tremendous achievement that was CR!
  • TriggerTrigger
    Posts: 183
    Quantum of Solace-I wanted to love it so much, even during the viewing I was ignoring the bad bits and initially came out feeling it was very good, but on watching the second time when my emotions had calmed down I realised it was very disappointing. Not bad, just disappointing. But as others have eluded to, it really suffered from being the film after Casino Royale.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited May 2013 Posts: 3,494
    BeatlesSansEarmuffs wrote:
    There are plenty of reasons I could give the nod here to DAF, MR, or DAD -- but I'll have to go with QoS. It was the first (and so far only!) time I've walked out of the theatre actually feeling depressed after seeing a new Bond movie. This reaction was specially disappointing after the tremendous achievement that was CR!

    By era-

    CONNERY- DAF easily. Connery balding and on autopilot, no proper sequel to OHMSS, Charles Gray in drag, just dreadful.

    MOORE- MR without question. Ditching the brilliant Fleming book and characters such as Gala Brand for a "Star Wars" ripoff is bad enough. Adding the likes of the boring Lonsdale, laser tag battles, atrocious looking women (I exclude Chiles and Bolton), pathetic acting, Bondolas, winking pigeons, etc, etc. TMWTGG and AVTAK are brilliant in comparison.

    DALTON- The only Bond with more than one appearance who didn't have a bad entry.

    BROSNAN- Compared to DAD, TWINE is a great film. Well, some think so. What can I said about DAD that hasn't already been? One thing comes to mind. It's even worse than MR.

    CRAIG- While it certainly did not live up to expectations, I'll be damned if I understand how QOS is worse than DAD or any of the films I've mentioned. MR is disappointing to me because I loved the book, but Connery's return in 1971 and the 40th anniversary had more hype in my perception, and much more organized productions that didn't feature writer's strikes working against it. QOS suffers from what OHMSS and LTK did, negative public and critical opinion affecting it much more than it should. Like those two films, eventually it will be redeemed and most will accept that there are a few turkeys in the series that truly are worse.




  • timmertimmer
    edited April 2013 Posts: 4,622
    SaintMark wrote:
    Quantum of Bourne was easily the first time I wanted to leave the cinema in the intermission. As a 007 fan I decided against it and was not surprised to see how half of the audience did not return after the intermission. The owner of the cinema did tell me that this was not a one of but in every showing people walked out during the break and that a lot of complaining was about the editing, the unBondlike story and the incomprehensible actionscenes.

    There were some great ideas in the movie and Craig was easily the best part of the movie but the story, the editing, the badly chosen director (more the artfull director than having any idea how to shoot an actionmovie), the borrowing of keypersonal of the succesfull competition (the Bourne movies). The carchase in the beginning was so-so, the boatchase was mmmweh, the plainjump was BAD CGI and beyond impossible, the killing of Mathis a waste of a good character for nothing really.
    QoS was an idea when the filmed it but lacked the finishing touch by a real writer and the talent of a decent director to make it a movie worthy of the 007 franchise.

    This question is easy. The 22nd entry in the series gets my vote slam dunk. My theatre experience wasn't quite as grevious as St. Mark's. There certainly wasn't any intermission to walk-out on during my cinema viewings.
    I could go on for pages regarding my disillusionment with this film but I did back in the day on the old board. What's done is done. Disillusioned though is probably the best way to describe my mood regarding this movie.
    That exciting Bond vibe that I love so much, was sorely missing with this film. That's my biggest complaint. It didn't feel like a Bond film. Forster and Haggis seemed almost embarassed to be making a Bond film.
    A friend of mine who is by no means a Bond afficionado, in other words he doesn't have the expert Bond-fan knowledge that most of us have, but nevertheless a dedicated Bond fan who has seen every film, told me he nearly walked out.
    He expressed himself pretty bluntly at a party at his place. He singled me out in front of a group of people and bitched about the film, like it was my fault :( , me being a dedicated Bond-fan and all. I told him, that yes I shared his pain, and that I too was also very disappointed with this dreary entry in the series, and quickly changed the subject.
    That seemed to mollify him. He's no critic and he certainly wasn't compelled to expound in detail, but his general complaint was that he entered the cinema jacked-up to see a Bond film, and got somthing else instead for his cash.

  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited April 2013 Posts: 4,442
    Casino Royale and Skyfall. All Bond movies i have seen in cinema since Goldeneye and it whas close that i have skipt Casino Royale. The movie whas to violence, in specialy for introducing of a new Bond. After 4 views and a bit, those days i stil think the same about somethings not belongs in a Bond movie.

    If i look those days to my ranking, The World Is Not Enough whas the last entertainment movie. This is not the reasen why all Daniel Craig Bond movies get a low rank for me, it mis the connection/standalone feeling other have.

    QOS, Also the in my eyes WOW! there can make a old setting Bond movie, QOS mis that connection too and have a to short screentime. It is Bond movie who after 2-4 views be to easy to analyze and that also remove some of the fun. There whant let us wait. It created quistions, but give ansers if you take the time for it. QOS is a very inspyred movie, partly inspyred by other things (See there you have your analyze). I have a strong feeling to defend QOS sometimes because not everthing is refeald, a lot of things like the editing having a reasen.

    Skyfall feels empty. Spoiled to much before (wrong chooses in the trailer), Wrong directer mabey, filming on digital no succes and promes with/after QOS. Also why some of the footage of teaser trailer and M her line about Chinees sea be removed from the final movie. I whas not suprised China be location, but i expect more a kind of QOS with Yolt elements or something. After a special from the BBC about China i am thinking wow will the Bond producers possible to picked this up for Bond 23.

    It is dificult to get in Daniel Craig movies.

  • identigraphidentigraph
    Posts: 1,052
    I think for me it would be DAD, I don't mean just beacause it is rubbish but with the 40th Anniversary and this was probably at the peak of my Bond obsession, i'd being watching all the old films again and reading anything Bond related, basically getting involved in all the hype and then bang, I left the cinema very dissapointed.

    I also had a similar experience with Skyfall, after all the hype and all things Bond being watched and enjoyed the actual film left me a little flat.
  • NapoleonPluralNapoleonPlural
    Posts: 512
    Golden Gun was an early one, the first 'bad' Bond movie for me. Then FYEO, after all this talk of going back to FRWL, either do it properly or don't bother. Then, trumping them all, Connery's comeback in NSNA, largely because you thought the bloke had the smarts to reject the silliness of the Moore films but no, and none of it seemed particularly original. The series really needed an alternative kind of Bond film at that point and they flunked it.
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 5,808
    Well, I have to say QOS as the most disappointing one. After the great Casino Royale, it felt like a big letdown.

    Other than that, DAF. But I'm sure that if I had seen it when it came out, I would have enjoyed it (I was 12 at the time), the same way I enjoyed LALD and TMWTGG when they came out (at the time, I haven't either read Fleming or seen any of the other movies). Since then, however, I matured in taste.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    For me, the most disappointing entries are Diamonds Are Forever and Die Another Day as their potential was very sadly not realised.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    Goldeneye95 wrote:
    DAF was a letdown for me.

    You speak the truth. DAF had the potential to be so much and instead Cubby and Salzman decided to "play it safe" and have fun with the Bond image. Instead of being a serious followup to OHMSS it devolved into a mockery of the better Bond films. welcome to the 1970's 007...
  • brinkeguthriebrinkeguthrie Piz Gloria
    Posts: 1,400
    Dragonpol wrote:
    For me, the most disappointing entries are Diamonds Are Forever and Die Another Day as their potential was very sadly not realised.
    Absolutely.
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