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Yes I'm a Fleming purist, you can say what you like on a web site, reboot or no reboot, don't make it so, believe me that it's highly unlikely in the real world that a non marine naval reservist would be accepted for selection.
It's all fiction at the end of the day so don't get uptight friend, no offence intended.
In the real world I served with many female operators many were better than the men of "The Regiment" at the time, basically because they blended, didn't stand out like the Specials did at the time. (Back in the 80's, the SAS were nicknamed the Freddies as most were drawn from the Para's & looked like a bunch of Mercury Clones)
Eve is a character in a play, not real, however I've met the fresh faced inexperienced MI6 uni-girl, very smart, quite fit, but to be honest all doctrine & basic training, so in some respects the character of Eve as a novice field agent was believable.
Everyone views films in a different way. My expectations are not the same as yours and nor are either of ours the same as anyone else's. There are so many contributing factors that have been discussed all over this forum. Suspending your disbelief does not necessarily mean a film will be more enjoyable, it might be that some people are looking for something more and why shouldn't they? They're the audience afterall. Some people are voracious consumers others want to be challenged.
Now isn't THAT all too true? But they found a new field with this thread to share their being annoyed fest with us - again...no surprises here...thankfully they have the Dalton films to enjoy ;)
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Not everything has to be told, unless we have an extra couple of hours!
Basically if you raise an issue about SF on here there are a small band of people who take it upon themselves to make it personal. That's despite the fact none of the negative comments I've seen have been personal, purely observations directed at the film. You're right, it would be sterile.
Most of us aren't annoyed. I liked the film, so did Brady, Creasy, etc, and they're still talking about it. She was incompetent. There's a difference between discussing something about the film and bitching about it. Relax, you're precious film isn't being criticised.
And since you bought up Dalton, I'm not sure I believe you've even seen his films. Maybe you saw TLD once years ago but that's it. Maybe give them a rewatch, you might like them.
@RC7 You've got the right idea.
Recently, there seems to have been a number of members who simply resort to name calling, personal attacks, posts that incite arguments and flaming etc etc.
the mods and admins do their best, but it's down to all of us to make sure the forum is the best it can be. Don't respond to these individuals. Don't become baited. If you see a post that is deliberately offensive or inciting argument, simply flag it for the mods.
If that is not possible than you have no forum but one view that should be shared by all.
Eve is no more incompetent than 007 he is responsible for the death of his boss. Jeez and he is a 00, the elite of field agents! :D
I think it was a failure by Bond. He wanted to protect her, she was killed, I don't think there's any way around that.
But I didn't mind that. SF shows that even James Bond messes up sometimes. But for Bond 24, I'd like a film with a more happy ending and a Bond that doesn't mess up that much.
Let's give Craig a normal Bond film now, with M not being used more and a story that isn't "this time it's personal"
I think it's entirely reasonable that Eve should be a field agent.
People that deny M's death as a failure by Bond just do not get the point of the movie, Bond is no longer the superman he used to be. It is more EON's wish to make him something different from before and with SF they finaly managed that.
Bond has failed to protect many before, most recently Sévérine & M in skyfall, the attraction of the character has always been that he is flawed, he makes mistakes, but he never lets himself be distracted from the mission, even in Skyfall the idea of taking M to the family house was to draw Silva to a remote location to finish him for good, unfortunately M was collateral damage.
Right. Now, was it Bond's fault Oddjob knocked him out and Jill was suffocated? How about Countess Lisl still running after Bond told her to stop? M dying all of a sudden seems to be this big deal about how this Bond failed but the series is full of examples where Bond failed, as Spectre just pointed out.
As I feel you likely see me as someone who's tried to be open minded regarding SF's flaws yet still a supporter of the film, I think it works both ways here.
He's failed before and he failed in SF. I don't see anything wrong with that.
This is what I've said Bond's attitude is Sh*t happens, move on.
Exactly. I know he got emotional about Vesper, Tracy and now M but if he beat himself up over every single death he caused then he wouldn't be very good at his job.
There isn't, but some people just feel compelled to say anything to justify their position without first considering what they are talking about.
Absolutely.
Agreed.
Fatherhood calls, see you around another time.
I didn't mind Harris but like I said, I'm not a fan of them giving Moneypenny this big backstory about how she shot Bond.
You aren't even applying the underlying themes of the film. Oh, never mind. I will point it out in my future review.
Look say what you mean, what is your view point, all I see is that M was a means to an end, Bond used her, but never wanted her to die, is it a failure? Maybe not he killed Silva, so threat eliminated, mission completed, but the Bitch is dead?
What does Bond say when he turns up for work the next day?
Bond: 'Oh, sorry guys, yeah, bit of a shame. M's dead. Oh well. Where's my next mission to c*ck up?'
Mallory: 'Here you go Bond. (Hands bond file). I'm afraid I won't be joining you this time. Got bit of an old war wound - giving me gyp. Do take a bit more care this time, won't you Bond' (winks to camera)
Bond: 'Right you are sir! Watch yourself while I'm away. Don't want you getting into any accidents, do we?'
Bond walks out to the Some Mothers Do 'Av 'Em theme tune.
I read the plan to take M to Scotland was meant to lure Silva away from hurting innocent people, and bring him out of his comfort zone. I mean of course Bond didn't want M to die, but they were luring Silva out, not hiding M away.
She even accepts in the car that she is bait in Bond's plan. What happens to bait? It gets eaten.
Again, the plan was not to 'save' M. Let had Q go back and point Silva directly to her. The plan was to lure Silva out and stop him. Bond succeeded in that.