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i forgot to mention that this is in France...
Did you not show them Dalton? (alright fair enough not LTK).
Nope, LTK for obvious reasons and TLD not because I do not like watching Dalton as 007. However they love Dalton in the Rocketeer and Hot fuzz. Found him convincing and menacing as a evil timelord in Doctor Who as well.
He should have been a Bond baddie.
Easily better.
;)
Nah ;)
I think it would be kind of cool if Dalton was a villain in a Bond film now. He still looks great, and the series doesn't really value continuity, especially after the reboot.
How old are your kids out of interest?
So you didn't show them LTK or Craig's Bonds, but you're fine with Hot Fuzz? Or was it a edited version they saw. Because I found that a lot more bloody/violent than any of the Bond films
I've said it before and I'll say it again- the anti-smoking brigade and their pals in the insurance business would have made great Nazis. Tobacco is a legal product, if you're of legal age to purchase and use it, no one has the right to impose their will on you. It's called freedom of choice. If I'm outside and want to smoke a stogie, I will. If you come around me and tell me to put it out, I'll tell you I was here first and if you don't like it then get to stepping. These Nazis think they have the right, but they don't.
I couldn't possibly agree with you more. When I go outside for a cigarette and I find a suitable location to do so, nobody else can come into my area and tell me to put it out.
In regards to SF - like I've said before - I think it would be a nice nod to the Bond days of old.
On the subject of the anti-smoking brigade I can only say that I do not mind smokers as long as they remember to not inconvenience other folks with the smoke I really don't care. And when they do not litter their ciggie butts (that also aplies for general littering for me)
I quite smoking when my daughters were born and I did no allow any smoking around my daughters and most did not mind and actually agreed that kids should remain in a smoking free enviroment.
The non-smoking bars and clubs I find very nice, as a large majority of people do not smoke and they get not bothered anymore by the behaviour of a small minority. When I go out these days I actually get to smell people and don't stink of ciggies when I get home. Just of beer. :D
I'm surprised it wasn't included in License to Kill, because really just about every other word got thrown into it. What a disaster, I mean you can go dark and gritty without the language, it can be done!
On the other hand, in several of Fleming´s novels the word is clearly there, though not written out. So, I´m wondering, we had the one-off QOS, then why not have a one-off smoking and cursing Bond...?
In the UK, LTK got an 18 rating when we first took it to the BBFC. I also remember hearing that Timothy Dalton was rather pleased with the adult rating, but no one else was. At the time it got a little heated between Eon and the BBFC, and in the end, because time was running out for the release date, Cubby and the supervising editor had to go to Soho and make the actual "cuts" with the BBFC present so that both parties could agree on the "cuts" to achieve a 15 rating. BTW; all those "cuts" (Sanchez whipping his girlfriend, her lover's OC screams as his heart is cut out, rifle butt smashed into prison truck driver's face, Felix's leg being bitten off, Sanchez going up in flames for longer,) have all been restored in the present LTK BluRay release - rated 15.
If a Bond woman would take her bikini top of it would immediately have a 18 stamp. Strange how a naked body trumps violence and swearing.
Amazing. I assume it would have been at the 'lower end' of the 18 scale (i.e. it was debatable whether it could be 15 or 18 and the cuts they ended up making were only a few seconds of film time?). Did Cubby and the editor genuinely believe that the BBFC were being unreasonably harsh, or were they only pushing for their film in the way any producer/editor would?
It is quite interesting how the BBFC now seems to be more lax about violence but more sensitive towards un-PC behaviour and things that they fear young people might copy.
All of us felt that the BBFC were being way too harsh. The BBFC's argument, if you can imagine this, was that because it was a Bond film it was a "family" film and therefore the violence was "too much" for children. "Cubby", John Glen, John Grover, all argued that this was a more adult Bond film, like an early Connery film (which had, in those days, an "A" rating), and LTK should not be compared to a lighter Roger Moore film. And of course they were dead right, but the head of the BBFC, at the time, would hear none of it and insisted on the "cuts" or else the film would be given an 18 certificate rating.
And now, after all these years later, LTK is shown un-cut with a 15 rating.
But if they can't see it in the cinema it won't make as much money, I'm not bothered about it making tons of money but if a Bond film flops we could get a long gap again.
Thanks for your insights. Its interesting how there didn't seem to be an absolute objective criteria for what makes an 18 certificate, and that its influenced by what predictions of who the audience will expect it to be for.