Indiana Jones

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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    So is this just baiting, or do you have an opinion of your own @AstonLotus
  • Benny wrote: »
    I think most of these reviewers do it for clickbait. They get off on seeing their videos gain the most views. Or they have nothing better to do with their lives. Maybe they're just sad little men, who want to drag other people down to their level. Who knows.
    But I'm not going to let some random jackass tell me if a movie is good or not. After all these years, I think I can decide that for myself. [/quo
    。Spot on Ben. Couldnt agree more.
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    As an outsider you really wonder what kind of society the US has become. Grown men ranting and whining about perceived political symbolism in a film made just to entertain. And of course the well known irony in referring to adversories as "snowflakes" meanwhile being extremely sensitive themselves.
  • WhyBondWhyBond USA
    Posts: 69
    Yea it's probably a bad film but I don't care. Will go see it on opening day weekend and get the Blu Ray when out.
    I find it odd that every time a bad film of another franchise gets mentioned Bond fans have to bring up Die Another Day and Pierce Brosnan???? It's bad film but I enjoy it.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited June 2023 Posts: 4,532
    When i see that poster i thaught mabey Disney should have rights back of franchise get earlier
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    Zorro Olga Strikes again...
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  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    M_Balje wrote: »
    When i see that poster i thaught mabey Disney should have rights back of franchise get earlier
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    Zorro Olga Strikes again...
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    I heard a new Zorro series was coming to Disney+, not sure if it's 100% confirmed.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    edited June 2023 Posts: 1,110
    Back on track, i prefer to ignore all those "review" videos, cause i don't care what people (Specially THAT kind of people) say about it, i prefer to have my own opinion of it when i'll go see it.
    This has already happened with other movies before, like Super Mario Bros: The Movie & Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I miss the days of Youtube when it was about making fun amateur videos.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I will admit to liking The Critical Drinker. He gives props where and when it is needed. Check out his positive review of the new Spider-Man movie with Miles. He takes things to task when the writing or directing or acting aren't up to snuff. Yes he touches on "the message" stuff that tends to crop up now and again in new films and series, but his main focus is always the product.

    I fondly recall as a kid watching Gene Shalit on the Today show with fizzy hair and big glasses, Joel Siegel on Good Morning America. Those were critics that were entertaining on their own but never took themselves too seriously.

    As I stated earlier I am hopeful that this film gives the character a nice send off. I don't care for any spin off that may occur from this ":universe".

    This might not be the best place for this question but I do wonder how a character like Bond can be transferred to one actor to another and yet Indiana Jones seems to be Ford or no one. What is the difference? Is it because of the literary aspect? I will watch with some interest on how the new actor for the Harry Potter series fares with comparisons to Daniel Radcliffe.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah, I love Ford and I think he's one of the best movie stars ever, but so was Sean Connery, and Bond survived moving on from him. I'm happy to have another Ford film, but I think Indy can go on really.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It doesn’t help that with Indy there was no immediate successor like there was with Bond. We did get Young Indy, but that was never in cinemas so it’s not quite the same.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah, I love Ford and I think he's one of the best movie stars ever, but so was Sean Connery, and Bond survived moving on from him. I'm happy to have another Ford film, but I think Indy can go on really.

    But Bond moved on from an actor that had let it go. Ford never did that. Ford IS Jones....
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    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    Well said. Most of these reviews are made just so they can get views. Indiana Jones does have a place for entertainment in any era.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    Well said. Most of these reviews are made just so they can get views. Indiana Jones does have a place for entertainment in any era.

    And most are ones who've yet to see it. They're just echoing whomever rated it negatively and implementing their own agendas on what they may think.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    Great post @PDJamesBond I couldn't agree more.
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
    edited June 2023 Posts: 698
    Bond exists independently of the movies since he started off as a literary character first. Since he was never defined by any particular actor, it's easier for people to accept multiple Bonds than it would be for them to accept new actors playing characters like Indy, Rocky Balboa, or Snake Plissken, which were partially-created by the actors who played them. With Bond it's, "Timothy Dalton looks more like Fleming's Bond than Connery," but with Indy it'd be, "This new guy is nothing like Harrison Ford." There's no reference point beyond the original actor.

    As for DoD, judging by a spoiler-filled review from Cannes, it seems that the leaks were about half-right, but that the film ultimately plays it safe. Then again, we know from John Williams that the ending was reshot, so who knows if it was originally worse. The movie just doesn't look that good, and I say that as someone who moderately enjoyed Crystal Skull. Then again, I've always been of the opinion that when original creators are removed from a franchise (like Cameron from Terminator or Lucas from Star Wars), it inherently makes new entries in these series seem less legitimate and more like cash-ins.
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    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    YouTube has become a horrifically toxic wasteland, with countless “woke trash”-titled videos about entertainment just being the tip of the iceberg. When Uganda recently passed their new laws that includes killing people for homosexual activity, on YouTube I saw hundreds of comments praising it, and hundreds more upvoting the hateful praises.
  • mattjoesmattjoes THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST
    edited June 2023 Posts: 7,050
    Can't wait for Indy. I'll probably watch it multiple times at the movies.
  • No other actor should ever play Indy. I just wish Lucas et all had made more films between 93 and 2005 before Crystal Skull.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited June 2023 Posts: 4,679
    No other actor should ever play Indy. I just wish Lucas et all had made more films between 93 and 2005 before Crystal Skull.

    I agree. That being said, I feel that Indy is like Bond: there is always a real-life threat and artifact that Indy can go after, real or fake, in any time period. Lucas should have let aliens (and his ego) go, or gotten someone else other than Spielberg to direct Indy 4. But I feel that Indy's future is in books, honestly. Lucasfilm could make as many Indiana Jones books as they have Star Wars books.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It is frustrating that they can't get a good writer to do an Indy book.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    mtm wrote: »
    It is frustrating that they can't get a good writer to do an Indy book.

    I think some of our Bond authors could work well. Namely Benson, Deaver, Horowitz and Sherwood.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2023 Posts: 16,558
    I'm not sure to be honest; I think an Indy possibly benefits from a writer more on the comedy side of things- Indy needs wit and invention. Of all of the Bond writers I'd say Higson would be best, in fact. And of course he did show a bit of interest in that side of things when he did Jekyll & Hyde.
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    Benny wrote: »
    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    Great post @PDJamesBond I couldn't agree more.

    Thanks, @Benny It's pretty sad that there are some places on the Internet where I couldn't even have posted this without being accused of being a Disney shill. I've seen people attacked (verbally, of course) just for being passionate and excited about the movie. Which is so strange to me because, if you're a true fan, wouldn't you be passionate and excited too? Or, at the VERY least, not begrudge someone else being excited? It's so strange.

    I've said it many times and I'll keep saying it: The Internet is the best and worst thing that ever happened to the movies.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited June 2023 Posts: 4,679
    Benny wrote: »
    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    Great post @PDJamesBond I couldn't agree more.

    Thanks, @Benny It's pretty sad that there are some places on the Internet where I couldn't even have posted this without being accused of being a Disney shill. I've seen people attacked (verbally, of course) just for being passionate and excited about the movie. Which is so strange to me because, if you're a true fan, wouldn't you be passionate and excited too? Or, at the VERY least, not begrudge someone else being excited? It's so strange.

    I've said it many times and I'll keep saying it: The Internet is the best and worst thing that ever happened to the movies.

    You could say that about any form of media. Some people are honestly just jealous, that they didn’t go further along with life.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    Great post @PDJamesBond I couldn't agree more.

    Thanks, @Benny It's pretty sad that there are some places on the Internet where I couldn't even have posted this without being accused of being a Disney shill. I've seen people attacked (verbally, of course) just for being passionate and excited about the movie. Which is so strange to me because, if you're a true fan, wouldn't you be passionate and excited too? Or, at the VERY least, not begrudge someone else being excited? It's so strange.

    I've said it many times and I'll keep saying it: The Internet is the best and worst thing that ever happened to the movies.

    You could say that about any form of media. Some people are honestly just jealous, that they didn’t go further along with life.

    Maybe so! I'll still never understand it. I haven't exactly set the world on fire but I still get plenty of joy out of the excitement of a new Indy or Bond movie, and I love to see other people get excited about it too. It's part of the fun of talking with other fans. Even if I hate this movie, I wouldn't wish any other fan to hate it. That's just negative and stupid.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Benny wrote: »
    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    Great post @PDJamesBond I couldn't agree more.

    Thanks, @Benny It's pretty sad that there are some places on the Internet where I couldn't even have posted this without being accused of being a Disney shill. I've seen people attacked (verbally, of course) just for being passionate and excited about the movie. Which is so strange to me because, if you're a true fan, wouldn't you be passionate and excited too? Or, at the VERY least, not begrudge someone else being excited? It's so strange.

    I've said it many times and I'll keep saying it: The Internet is the best and worst thing that ever happened to the movies.

    There are places where if you dare suggest Kathleen Kennedy is a negative force on Lucas Film you will be attacked. LOL! I love how we are so insular that we feel our way is best and can't see it from a more detached perspective. If you think Kathleen is the best film producer ever and that everything she has produced is gold, more power to you. If you think she is a terrible producer that's fine too. One side shouldn't be allowed to trump others. Free speech.

    Bottom line you throw out an opinion be prepared for some to like it and some to dislike it. That's fine and should be encouraged. The people on here saying that people shouldn't be voice their opinions is ludicrous.

    In my days as a youth you would write letters to the editor, now one need only create their post and publish. Today we can all publish or shout out our thoughts and opinions. Engage or don't engage, watch or don't watch. I am reminded of certain radio personalities where they wanted listeners and didn't care if the listener liked them or agreed with them. They just wanted listeners. Often someone would say I can't stand (insert DJ name) did you hear that bit where he... or "I never listen to him. Did you hear his story the other day." LOL!
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    thedove wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    I assume everyone on this thread is a big Indiana Jones fan (otherwise why would you be here?). So can we take a minute to stop thinking about angry YouTubers and take a deep breath and remind ourselves that a new Indy movie is coming out in less than a month? This is a time for celebration. Maybe you won't like the movie. But I guarantee there will be something in the film that you DO like (I'm pretty sure the tuk tuk chase is going to be a showstopper). So please don't get bogged down in negativity and try to enjoy the moment. We're seeing Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones one last time!

    Great post @PDJamesBond I couldn't agree more.

    Thanks, @Benny It's pretty sad that there are some places on the Internet where I couldn't even have posted this without being accused of being a Disney shill. I've seen people attacked (verbally, of course) just for being passionate and excited about the movie. Which is so strange to me because, if you're a true fan, wouldn't you be passionate and excited too? Or, at the VERY least, not begrudge someone else being excited? It's so strange.

    I've said it many times and I'll keep saying it: The Internet is the best and worst thing that ever happened to the movies.

    There are places where if you dare suggest Kathleen Kennedy is a negative force on Lucas Film you will be attacked. LOL! I love how we are so insular that we feel our way is best and can't see it from a more detached perspective. If you think Kathleen is the best film producer ever and that everything she has produced is gold, more power to you. If you think she is a terrible producer that's fine too. One side shouldn't be allowed to trump others. Free speech.

    Bottom line you throw out an opinion be prepared for some to like it and some to dislike it. That's fine and should be encouraged. The people on here saying that people shouldn't be voice their opinions is ludicrous.

    In my days as a youth you would write letters to the editor, now one need only create their post and publish. Today we can all publish or shout out our thoughts and opinions. Engage or don't engage, watch or don't watch. I am reminded of certain radio personalities where they wanted listeners and didn't care if the listener liked them or agreed with them. They just wanted listeners. Often someone would say I can't stand (insert DJ name) did you hear that bit where he... or "I never listen to him. Did you hear his story the other day." LOL!

    You definitely make some good points @thedove I am all for back and forth, debate, differences of opinion, etc. That's part of what makes a fandom fun - we can argue all day. But I think the difference is that I hate the toxic atmosphere of people who WANT to hate things just because they're miserable. There are so-called "fans" who are just SO happy to say that the reviews of DoD are crap and "this movie is going to go down in flames!" Why would you do that if you're a fan? Similarly, it's like being a Bond fan and actively wanting to hate the next Bond movie.

    Bottom line for me: Be a fan. Enjoy the ride. Be excited, even if that excitement is tempered. And then if you don't like the movie, that's cool. We'll dissect it to death afterwards with level heads and without extreme toxicity or hyperbole.
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