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    Hmm...
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    Its come round quick, who are your favourites?

    Manchester United for me.
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    13935021_1190352544360546_2932013646061251813_n.jpg?oh=0333d4676ac52829cda1bd00ba82824f&oe=5817124A

    Its come round quick, who are your favourites?

    Manchester United for me.

    No the 'special needs team' with the 'special needs one' make me sick. all money, all stocks and shares, money grabbing excuse of a football team that's a corporation that kicks a ball now and again.

    Liverpool for me - no European distractions. Utd will sack the Moronio Jan - that's where the smart money should be.

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    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
  • RC7RC7
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    Sanchairs wrote: »
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    Its come round quick, who are your favourites?

    Manchester United for me.

    No the 'special needs team' with the 'special needs one' make me sick

    Classic.
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 6,432
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Watched the game a worthy win, Snodgrass looks a player.
    @SanChairs United have earned where they are.
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Good start by Hull! Leicester didn't look much like the team they were last year. Will be interesting to see how both teams continue their season.

    Several interesting matches elsewhere today, also. Wasn't surprised by the results though, nor the goalscorers. Although City won against Sunderland, it's still fun to see jermaine Defoe making trouble for any opponent.

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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Watched the game a worthy win, Snodgrass looks a player.
    @SanChairs United have earned where they are.

    Special needs club - have certainly earned what they have - Home Shirt - £60. Bottle of water at stadium £3.50

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    Sanchairs wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Watched the game a worthy win, Snodgrass looks a player.
    @SanChairs United have earned where they are.

    Special needs club - have certainly earned what they have - Home Shirt - £60. Bottle of water at stadium £3.50

    To be fair all of football has become very commercial since the Sky TV deal in 1992. If Man Utd are to be overtaken by other clubs, look at the alternatives. Not any better really.
  • RC7RC7
    edited August 2016 Posts: 10,512
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Watched the game a worthy win, Snodgrass looks a player.
    @SanChairs United have earned where they are.

    Special needs club - have certainly earned what they have - Home Shirt - £60. Bottle of water at stadium £3.50

    For anyone wondering why they're known as 'The Bitters', I give you exhibit A.
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    Are those prices correct?
  • Posts: 140
    RC7 wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Watched the game a worthy win, Snodgrass looks a player.
    @SanChairs United have earned where they are.

    Special needs club - have certainly earned what they have - Home Shirt - £60. Bottle of water at stadium £3.50

    For anyone wondering why they're known as 'The Bitters', I give you exhibit A.

    On July 14th 2014, less than a week after the Nike announcement, United confirmed a new ten year deal with German kit manufacturer adidas for "global technical sponsorship and dual branded licensing". The contract was reported to be worth a minimum £75 million per season (a new world record total of £750 million) and dwarfed the recent agreement between Arsenal and Puma thought to be worth £30 million a year. The new deal commenced on August 1st 2015.

    Most of the shirts are not manufactured in Germany where the minimum wage is 1,430 Euros a month but in Dhaka where minimum wage is 10 pence a day for underage child workers. Which is nice. I'm so bitter.
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 4,044
    @Sanchairs - are you an Everton fan - or is it Man City?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Watched the game a worthy win, Snodgrass looks a player.
    @SanChairs United have earned where they are.

    Special needs club - have certainly earned what they have - Home Shirt - £60. Bottle of water at stadium £3.50

    For anyone wondering why they're known as 'The Bitters', I give you exhibit A.

    On July 14th 2014, less than a week after the Nike announcement, United confirmed a new ten year deal with German kit manufacturer adidas for "global technical sponsorship and dual branded licensing". The contract was reported to be worth a minimum £75 million per season (a new world record total of £750 million) and dwarfed the recent agreement between Arsenal and Puma thought to be worth £30 million a year. The new deal commenced on August 1st 2015.

    Most of the shirts are not manufactured in Germany where the minimum wage is 1,430 Euros a month but in Dhaka where minimum wage is 10 pence a day for underage child workers. Which is nice. I'm so bitter.

    This guy is a joke. So it's Utd's fault how Adidas go about their business?

    Presume you think Messi is disgusting too as he's also sponsored by them.
  • Posts: 140
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Watched the game a worthy win, Snodgrass looks a player.
    @SanChairs United have earned where they are.

    Special needs club - have certainly earned what they have - Home Shirt - £60. Bottle of water at stadium £3.50

    For anyone wondering why they're known as 'The Bitters', I give you exhibit A.

    On July 14th 2014, less than a week after the Nike announcement, United confirmed a new ten year deal with German kit manufacturer adidas for "global technical sponsorship and dual branded licensing". The contract was reported to be worth a minimum £75 million per season (a new world record total of £750 million) and dwarfed the recent agreement between Arsenal and Puma thought to be worth £30 million a year. The new deal commenced on August 1st 2015.

    Most of the shirts are not manufactured in Germany where the minimum wage is 1,430 Euros a month but in Dhaka where minimum wage is 10 pence a day for underage child workers. Which is nice. I'm so bitter.

    This guy is a joke. So it's Utd's fault how Adidas go about their business?

    Presume you think Messi is disgusting too as he's also sponsored by them.


    Just fed up with PL really, and football in fact all sport and big business. We are like the people in the Matrix, we are just used as a source of juice, in this case cash, we are milked left right and center.

    The likes of Utd etc are big global clubs, they can create a model where we can bring the football back to reality, to us the fans. To take two children to a football match in the PL could cost you £300, £300 - seriously. The game is eating itself.

    We will be taken down the american model of franchise like the NFL do, maybe a European league, where the top clubs play each other, no one is relegated and everyone makes money by merch, rights and tickets.

    It's time the top PL teams stand up and take the lead to stop milking the fans and make it an accessible sport again. Players on £300,000 a week is so beyond linking back to the fans and supporters.

    UTD are the most successful football business out there - they need to show that there is another way to run a football club. Of course I don't like UTD being a Liverpool fan but UTD do have clout and influence.

    Sadly my team, Liverpool, the club that could and should stand up is also taking the game away from the fans, if there was ever a club that could be fully owned by the fans it should be Liverpool.


  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Hull City 2-1Leicester City- Come on you Hull!
    Watched the game a worthy win, Snodgrass looks a player.
    @SanChairs United have earned where they are.

    Special needs club - have certainly earned what they have - Home Shirt - £60. Bottle of water at stadium £3.50

    For anyone wondering why they're known as 'The Bitters', I give you exhibit A.

    On July 14th 2014, less than a week after the Nike announcement, United confirmed a new ten year deal with German kit manufacturer adidas for "global technical sponsorship and dual branded licensing". The contract was reported to be worth a minimum £75 million per season (a new world record total of £750 million) and dwarfed the recent agreement between Arsenal and Puma thought to be worth £30 million a year. The new deal commenced on August 1st 2015.

    Most of the shirts are not manufactured in Germany where the minimum wage is 1,430 Euros a month but in Dhaka where minimum wage is 10 pence a day for underage child workers. Which is nice. I'm so bitter.

    This guy is a joke. So it's Utd's fault how Adidas go about their business?

    Presume you think Messi is disgusting too as he's also sponsored by them.


    Just fed up with PL really, and football in fact all sport and big business. We are like the people in the Matrix, we are just used as a source of juice, in this case cash, we are milked left right and center.

    The likes of Utd etc are big global clubs, they can create a model where we can bring the football back to reality, to us the fans. To take two children to a football match in the PL could cost you £300, £300 - seriously. The game is eating itself.

    We will be taken down the american model of franchise like the NFL do, maybe a European league, where the top clubs play each other, no one is relegated and everyone makes money by merch, rights and tickets.

    It's time the top PL teams stand up and take the lead to stop milking the fans and make it an accessible sport again. Players on £300,000 a week is so beyond linking back to the fans and supporters.

    UTD are the most successful football business out there - they need to show that there is another way to run a football club. Of course I don't like UTD being a Liverpool fan but UTD do have clout and influence.

    Sadly my team, Liverpool, the club that could and should stand up is also taking the game away from the fans, if there was ever a club that could be fully owned by the fans it should be Liverpool.


    I agree entirely.

    As someone who paid a lot of money to be at the Iceland match premier league footballers disgust me.

    When you watch the Olympics and these guys pushing themselves to the absolute limit for nothing more than the glory it just goes to highlight how much football has lost the plot.

    But if you want to compete, this is the world we live in. Liverpool is a club that is supposed to win trophies not be a local charity. If you think the best way forward for LFC is to adopt the St Pauli model you are, of course entitled to your opinion, but for all their principles St Pauli are a yoyo club and to think some sort of socialist fan model will be successful in the corporate premier league is completely naive.

    However I long since grew sick and tired of being 7th every season and not playing in the European Cup so I'd happily sell babies for medical experimentation if it meant we could get back on our perch.

    Are Utd a disgusting hateful entity? Of course they are but let's not criticise them for being savvy enough to exploit the commercial opportunities available to allow them to still be a leviathan despite not playing in the CL for several years now whilst our board stands twiddling their thumbs.

    Go anywhere in the world and all people know are Liverpool and Utd but they destroy us commercially because we are still 10 years behind them. Factor in appalling scouting and transfer business over the past 20 years and we should be more angry at our board than Utd merely exploiting the market.

    As we speak they get handed a goal on a silver platter (after playing very averagely) by a succession of Bournemouth defensive clangers. That pisses me off more than their business dealings which might well be grubby, but then no one is successful in this world withiut getting their hands dirty.

    If Liverpool are at the top of the league in May time I doubt you'll be complaining so vociferously.
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    Liverpool are beating Arsenal oh dear I'm so bitter because UTD beat Bournemouth 1-3, but we can only score 3 against a poor team like Arsenal, not a quality team like the dangerous Bournemouth. So bitter.

    update scored 4 and let in 2. Still we let in 2 goals - just so bitter.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited August 2016 Posts: 9,117
    Jesus Christ that's almost a shambles.

    The last 20 minutes should've been us calmly knocking it around at 4-1 while the crowd went mental for Wenger's head.

    Still I'd have taken it before the game.

    PS - Moreno might just be the worst defender in history. If giving a pen away is not enough he decides to go and stand in a different postcode to Theo when the ball comes through to him. He must have literally been about 20 yards away from the guy he is supposed to be marking. And has anyone got the first clue why Theo is taking pens?
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
    Posts: 4,151
    Phew. Crazy game. Glad my beloved reds got the win.

    Moreno - oh my dear lord. A shocker. Something that needs rectifying.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Moreno - oh my dear lord. A shocker. Something that needs rectifying.

    Jurgen - put a bid in for Titus Bramble right now. In the current market he shouldnt cost more than about £50m
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    Liverpool are beating Arsenal oh dear I'm so bitter because UTD beat Bournemouth 1-3, but we can only score 3 against a poor team like Arsenal, not a quality team like the dangerous Bournemouth. So bitter.

    update scored 4 and let in 2. Still we let in 2 goals - just so bitter.

    Doth protest.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
    Posts: 4,151
    Moreno - oh my dear lord. A shocker. Something that needs rectifying.

    Jurgen - put a bid in for Titus Bramble right now. In the current market he shouldnt cost more than about £50m

    Haha.

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Moreno - oh my dear lord. A shocker. Something that needs rectifying.

    Jurgen - put a bid in for Titus Bramble right now. In the current market he shouldnt cost more than about £50m

    Lovely stuff.

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited August 2016 Posts: 9,117
    RC7 wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    Liverpool are beating Arsenal oh dear I'm so bitter because UTD beat Bournemouth 1-3, but we can only score 3 against a poor team like Arsenal, not a quality team like the dangerous Bournemouth. So bitter.

    update scored 4 and let in 2. Still we let in 2 goals - just so bitter.

    Doth protest.

    Why does he feel the need to put Utd in capital letters? Freud would have a field day with this guy.

    Chill out @Sanchairs. Who the f**k are Man Utd? We are European royalty so don't let them bother you.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    Liverpool are beating Arsenal oh dear I'm so bitter because UTD beat Bournemouth 1-3, but we can only score 3 against a poor team like Arsenal, not a quality team like the dangerous Bournemouth. So bitter.

    update scored 4 and let in 2. Still we let in 2 goals - just so bitter.

    Doth protest.

    Why does he feel the need to put Utd in capital letters? Freud would have a field day with this guy.

    Chill out @Sanchairs. Who the f**k are Man Utd? We are European royalty so don't let them bother you.

    Ha ha, his approach is terrible!
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    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    Liverpool are beating Arsenal oh dear I'm so bitter because UTD beat Bournemouth 1-3, but we can only score 3 against a poor team like Arsenal, not a quality team like the dangerous Bournemouth. So bitter.

    update scored 4 and let in 2. Still we let in 2 goals - just so bitter.

    Doth protest.

    Why does he feel the need to put Utd in capital letters? Freud would have a field day with this guy.

    Chill out @Sanchairs. Who the f**k are Man Utd? We are European royalty so don't let them bother you.

    Ha ha, his approach is terrible!

    I use u/c for UTD as I don't want to disrespect Shawbury United who are 2015-216 champions of the West Midlands (Regional) League Premier Division. People might get confused.

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    Sanchairs wrote: »
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    Its come round quick, who are your favourites?

    Manchester United for me.

    No the 'special needs team' with the 'special needs one' make me sick. all money, all stocks and shares, money grabbing excuse of a football team that's a corporation that kicks a ball now and again.

    Liverpool for me - no European distractions. Utd will sack the Moronio Jan - that's where the smart money should be.

    err, can you be more specific? This could be one of many Premiership, and Championship, clubs.

    Should you be referring to Man Utd, it's worth remembering that United grew wealthy through the quality of the football - not some rich billionaire dumping a load of money in the hope of a big pay day. Man Utd are one of few Premiership clubs to have had to cope with owners sucking money out of the club and only been able to rely on their football, and resulting fan base, to keep their heads above water.

    Look what has happened to some lower league clubs who were in the same situation, but unable to call upon their football to keep them out of trouble
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    Troy wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    13935021_1190352544360546_2932013646061251813_n.jpg?oh=0333d4676ac52829cda1bd00ba82824f&oe=5817124A

    Its come round quick, who are your favourites?

    Manchester United for me.

    No the 'special needs team' with the 'special needs one' make me sick. all money, all stocks and shares, money grabbing excuse of a football team that's a corporation that kicks a ball now and again.

    Liverpool for me - no European distractions. Utd will sack the Moronio Jan - that's where the smart money should be.

    err, can you be more specific? This could be one of many Premiership, and Championship, clubs.

    Should you be referring to Man Utd, it's worth remembering that United grew wealthy through the quality of the football - not some rich billionaire dumping a load of money in the hope of a big pay day. Man Utd are one of few Premiership clubs to have had to cope with owners sucking money out of the club and only been able to rely on their football, and resulting fan base, to keep their heads above water.

    Look what has happened to some lower league clubs who were in the same situation, but unable to call upon their football to keep them out of trouble

    Are Utd debt free now @Troy ? In December 2014 they were £380.5m in debt. Before the Glazers took over in 2005 their debt was £0.
  • Posts: 4,044
    Troy wrote: »
    Sanchairs wrote: »
    13935021_1190352544360546_2932013646061251813_n.jpg?oh=0333d4676ac52829cda1bd00ba82824f&oe=5817124A

    Its come round quick, who are your favourites?

    Manchester United for me.

    No the 'special needs team' with the 'special needs one' make me sick. all money, all stocks and shares, money grabbing excuse of a football team that's a corporation that kicks a ball now and again.

    Liverpool for me - no European distractions. Utd will sack the Moronio Jan - that's where the smart money should be.

    err, can you be more specific? This could be one of many Premiership, and Championship, clubs.

    Should you be referring to Man Utd, it's worth remembering that United grew wealthy through the quality of the football - not some rich billionaire dumping a load of money in the hope of a big pay day. Man Utd are one of few Premiership clubs to have had to cope with owners sucking money out of the club and only been able to rely on their football, and resulting fan base, to keep their heads above water.

    Look what has happened to some lower league clubs who were in the same situation, but unable to call upon their football to keep them out of trouble

    Man Utd had to absorb debt from the Glazers. But they made money at least in part by floating on the stock exchange. A business success.
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