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I hope you're wrong but I'm not feeling optimistic.
SP is boring and tarnishes the previous three films to boot.
Quite. Even if you are absurdly generous to the Brozza era and say SP is as bad as DAD and GE is as good as CR (neither case is remotely true) that still leaves TND and TWINE v QOS and SF and the Craig era strolls home without breaking sweat.
GE is the only really good one Brosnan had. He himself wasn’t the problem; the material they gave him was usually sub-par. TND is decent but too by-the-numbers and generic. TWINE should have been a way better movie, but becomes dull and dumb (Denise Richards) too often. DAD is just a total train wreck after the sword fight.
Still, in terms of general acting and production quality, Craig's films are far stronger. And I say that as someone who grew up with Brosnan's films.
Each Brosnan film at least has a solid basis. Cliched? Yes. Uninspired? Yes. But competent.
The Craig films (barring CR) are all artistic flourishes with no grounding to hold them up.
A) Yes it’s dumb to tie Blofeld to Bond’s past this way, but at least he wasn’t his real brother.
B) Blofeld asserts himself as “author of all Bond’s pain,” but the audience knows this is giving him too much credit. The villains he simply funded did a better job of trying to kill Bond or ruin his life than Blofeld did. Ironic, but true.
Whereas Brosnan has the unfortunate situation of his films following a linear decline, with his last two being widely regarded as among the worst (if not the worst). It's a sad case of starting strong and then sputtering out with some laughably weak entries.
There is a chance that Craig will do the same, but he's definitely hit higher highs (and more often) and it's hard to see him hitting lower lows. As much as I like Brosnan, Craig would have to seriously screw up for Pierce's run to start eclipsing his.
Agreed. I only tank TWINE and DAD lower.
Makes sense. I have just DAD and MR below it. TWINE and TMWTGG are right above, but complete my bottom 5. I don’t hate any of these, but they are simply the weaker Bond films IMO. Going from OHMSS to DAF makes it especially disappointing.
The exchange about Pedro Ximenes Cherry is basically what saves it from being dead last in my book.
And the scene when Bond and Tiffany Case first meet...and "Mr Slumber"...and the first scene introducing Whint and Kidd.
I agree. Honestly though I like Brosnan as Bond and wish he had gotten at least one more that was as good as GE. It just got progressively worse and worse. I know not everyone here is a fan, but to me, the Craig era is the second-best era we have gotten since Connery/Lazenby in the 60s.
That's how I see it.
DAD was in a similar situation and is a little more appreciated now.
Heck, we're even seeing a major re-evaluation of Quantum of Solace since Skyfall and Spectre came out.
I agree, CR is the only one above average in my book. But even that one doesn't crack my top 10.
GE is one of personal favourite films. That one alone makes it no contest.
Craig's era is definitely my least favourite. The moment Bond is no longer a bon vivant, but a working class bodybuilder is when the character pretty much loses his charm for me.
There might be the kernel of an argument in looking at it strictly from a popcorn entertainment kind of perspective, though I think still think it'd be a tough case to mount.
I just can’f see it either. I don’t hate Brosnan, but his era is clearly the weakest I think. TND grew on me a bit over time while TWINE kept getting worse. GE has always been near the top and DAD near the bottom on my ranking. Right now, I have them at: GE #5, TND #18, TWINE #21, DAD #23. TND’s ranking may look bad but there is a fair amount I still really like in that film.
Agreed on everything.
I absolutely agree. Might actually qualify as the rarest of the rarest of opinions here on this forum.