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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    For lack of a better-fitting thread: I just tried out DeepSeek...had never heard of it until a couple of days ago when it seemed to evaporate hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S. company stocks. I told it that I wanted to write a screenplay for a new James Bond movie.

    The outcome may not be super-sophisticated, including borrowing from the "nano-bot" concept of NTTD. But the software describes its considerations and approach, and then at least provides, uhm, "a concept of a plan" for a screenplay.

    I didn't feel like copying the entire output into this board, so I uploaded it to Dropbox as two docx files. Hope it works! I'm not really a heavy Dropbox user, so tell me if it doesn't. (I just sent it to my wife via E-mail, and it did.)

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/m2eu9sygeam73p2qdfrpi/ADIzuP1XfhjvMibmYM8Y7ow?rlkey=x1ya245gbfvsx24ci3b6flwkf&st=9k12s19n&dl=0
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,954
    Too much jealousy towards his step brother, Bond really resulted in him doing this, he wanted to be famous like his famous secret agent brother but instead, got ended up in a children's comedy show.....Nice, Blofeld.

    "Cuckoo"

  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    For lack of a better-fitting thread: I just tried out DeepSeek...had never heard of it until a couple of days ago when it seemed to evaporate hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S. company stocks. I told it that I wanted to write a screenplay for a new James Bond movie.

    The outcome may not be super-sophisticated, including borrowing from the "nano-bot" concept of NTTD. But the software describes its considerations and approach, and then at least provides, uhm, "a concept of a plan" for a screenplay.

    I didn't feel like copying the entire output into this board, so I uploaded it to Dropbox as two docx files. Hope it works! I'm not really a heavy Dropbox user, so tell me if it doesn't. (I just sent it to my wife via E-mail, and it did.)

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/m2eu9sygeam73p2qdfrpi/ADIzuP1XfhjvMibmYM8Y7ow?rlkey=x1ya245gbfvsx24ci3b6flwkf&st=9k12s19n&dl=0

    It works, I could read it, but I'm not impressed. It really feels like a mash-up of all films together. But then again, that's what an AI bot does, so no surprise there.
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    --that's what an AI bot does-- It's a great tool, and handy in a pinch. Need a quick synopsis, or report, AI has your back. But original? AI isn't there yet.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    --that's what an AI bot does-- It's a great tool, and handy in a pinch. Need a quick synopsis, or report, AI has your back. But original? AI isn't there yet.

    And won't be there for a very long time. It's for a reason humans are programmed for 18 years and then still hardly understand society. For creativity you need a full understanding of the intrinsic value of words - and that's exactly what AI doesn't, and can't understand. AI, or at least the LLM's, are only trained in understanding which word follows which other word the most often. It is, however, quite impressive that it can reproduce something that comes over as reasonable. It seys something about how we use language.

  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Has anyone read the Mike Hammer books? I have picked up four of them in a sale, and was wondering if they have to be read in a particular order.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited February 24 Posts: 9,030
    Being James Bond
    Dutchbondfan
    and Haphazardstuff are doing a livestream at 5pm UK time today, to discuss the Amazon news.
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    Everyone always talks about 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s stuff, but 1930s was the real best decade for American fashion. Trenchcoats, fedoras, suits, etc. - all way classier and timeless than every look since then.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    I'm curious...
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    Where do you think each Bond falls in?
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited March 23 Posts: 3,954
    I think the stories forming in my mind with the characters that tend to fall in all three 'Noble' categories.
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    TMNT-film-turns-35-today :D

    Turtl*Pow*r
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Very sad to hear of the passing of Val Kilmer. An amazing actor, who should've been in a \Bond-film.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    What is you guys' favorite depiction of the Literary Bond? Mine is the one from Mike Grell.

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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,181
    Just when I think my job is monotonous, today at work I saw a barn owl sitting on a turtle.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Just when I think my job is monotonous, today at work I saw a barn owl sitting on a turtle.

    Owl's about that then? 🦉
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Just when I think my job is monotonous, today at work I saw a barn owl sitting on a turtle.

    Owl's about that then? 🦉

    One might start to wonder where you work. Last itme I checked my office there were no barn owls, nor turtles.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,774
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Just when I think my job is monotonous, today at work I saw a barn owl sitting on a turtle.

    Owl's about that then? 🦉

    One might start to wonder where you work. Last itme I checked my office there were no barn owls, nor turtles.

    He works in a zoo. ;)
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,430
    BJMDDS over at DCINB recently posted this gem…

    Post by bjmdds » Thu Jun 05, 2025 12:18 am

    Boy would Aidan work as Bond: I sent this video to Bezos now. For the easiest way to contact Jeff Bezos, send an email to [email protected]. Alternatively, try reaching him @JeffBezos on X (formerly Twitter). Use clear and direct language in your message so he's more likely to read it.



    Next James Bond chosen by fans who emailed Jeff Bezos :)) =)) :))
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    I'm sometimes wondering that the reason Bond never succeed in relationships is because he was destined for Moneypenny, Moneypenny was meant for Bond, if only Moneypenny would confess to Bond. 🥲
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I'm sometimes wondering that the reason Bond never succeed in relationships is because he was destined for Moneypenny, Moneypenny was meant for Bond, if only Moneypenny would confess to Bond. 🥲

    Ahh, that's sweet but also sad. =((
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    It could be sweet to end a Bond actors run with him running away with Moneypenny into retirement. You know, instead of being blown to a million pieces for no reason.
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    The problem is Bond can never have a normal life. That can either be depicted as a tragedy or to his benefit dependent on the story.

    That and I suspect him and Moneypenny wouldn't be a good couple in practice!
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited June 7 Posts: 1,982
    007HallY wrote: »
    The problem is Bond can never have a normal life. That can either be depicted as a tragedy or to his benefit dependent on the story.

    That and I suspect him and Moneypenny wouldn't be a good couple in practice!

    Why can't Bond ever have a normal life? Who made up that rule? I imagine the espionage fatality rate is not 100%. The Wired "Spy Breaks Down Movies" videos prove somebody knowledgable is able to retire from the business.
  • edited June 7 Posts: 5,419
    LucknFate wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    The problem is Bond can never have a normal life. That can either be depicted as a tragedy or to his benefit dependent on the story.

    That and I suspect him and Moneypenny wouldn't be a good couple in practice!

    Why can't Bond ever have a normal life? Who made up that rule? I imagine the espionage fatality rate is not 100%. The Wired "Spy Breaks Down Movies" videos prove somebody knowledgable is able to retire from the business.

    To be fair I wouldn't say it's an established rule (there are no rules and in theory you can do pretty much anything creatively with Bond, for better or worse!)

    But ultimately I get the sense that's a big part of his character, and it's an idea that runs through the series in various ways. In Fleming you have Vesper, so his attempt to leave the spy game ends with tragedy. His relationship with Tiffany Case ends between books. Even when confronted with the opportunity to settle down with Tracy he becomes worried he might not have the exciting life he had before, and of course ultimately it ends in another tragedy. He's not able to have that life with Kissy either. That idea of fate and Bond's job ultimately drawing him back, and as a result meaning he can never have a normal life, is similarly there in the Craig films.

    With the pre Craig films there's always that sense Bond will return for another adventure, even if the film ends with him and a woman in bed. You know those conquests aren't going to be making a reappearance, and Bond likely isn't going to settle down with them (or at least we're never going to see this). I think there's always that element to Bond as a fictional character. He's not able to have a definitive ending in that way. It made more sense for Bond to sacrifice himself in NTTD rather than have a happy life in that sense.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,430
    The only Bonds to end on a down note are Lazenby and of course Craig.
    Connery ends up on an ocean liner with Tiffany, Moore Bond ends up with Stacey in the shower, Dalton Bond finishes up with Pam in a pool and Brosnan Bond ends up removing diamonds out of the navel of Jinx.

    Clearly the ending of NTTD was divisive, but it was not the end of the series.
    James Bond will return
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited June 7 Posts: 1,982
    007HallY wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    The problem is Bond can never have a normal life. That can either be depicted as a tragedy or to his benefit dependent on the story.

    That and I suspect him and Moneypenny wouldn't be a good couple in practice!

    Why can't Bond ever have a normal life? Who made up that rule? I imagine the espionage fatality rate is not 100%. The Wired "Spy Breaks Down Movies" videos prove somebody knowledgable is able to retire from the business.

    To be fair I wouldn't say it's an established rule (there are no rules and in theory you can do pretty much anything creatively with Bond, for better or worse!)

    But ultimately I get the sense that's a big part of his character, and it's an idea that runs through the series in various ways. In Fleming you have Vesper, so his attempt to leave the spy game ends with tragedy. His relationship with Tiffany Case ends between books. Even when confronted with the opportunity to settle down with Tracy he becomes worried he might not have the exciting life he had before, and of course ultimately it ends in another tragedy. He's not able to have that life with Kissy either. That idea of fate and Bond's job ultimately drawing him back, and as a result meaning he can never have a normal life, is similarly there in the Craig films.

    With the pre Craig films there's always that sense Bond will return for another adventure, even if the film ends with him and a woman in bed. You know those conquests aren't going to be making a reappearance, and Bond likely isn't going to settle down with them (or at least we're never going to see this). I think there's always that element to Bond as a fictional character. He's not able to have a definitive ending in that way. It made more sense for Bond to sacrifice himself in NTTD rather than have a happy life in that sense.

    That's great in a franchise where the actors don't age, or at least the narrative ignores their age, like in the pre-Craig films. But the Craig films drew attention to and started to telegraph The End Of Bond as early as Skyfall. That an end was coming, he was facing a reckoning of age, reliability, role, and relevance. It's natural I think for the audience to begin to expect either a dramatic end or a sense of finality that could come with the standard "riding into the sunset" ending which I'm talking about. Plenty of westerns pull it off, sure sometimes the cowboy comes back alone again, but there's often hope at the end of a story. I like those stories better than ones that end in death. Especially a convoluted death. So what I'm saying is I think you're right, that the Bond films should ignore The End Of Bond as much as they can, and can always reboot before having to confront age and ability. But if they choose not to reboot, then I'm saying a walk-off with Moneypenny could be a nice "sunset" moment for Bond one day, but at the end of the actor's run. It would have best worked with Roger and Lois I think. It's the last film, so we don't have to worry about whether or not it works out for them in the end. Maybe it doesn't. But for a moment there was hope for Bond to find some other sense of purpose and thrills in life.

    Are there any realistic possibilities for Bond working outside of spycraft? Maybe he fades back into military service as a senior commander of some sort on a ship, and ages out that way. Would go against the having a wife bit, but it could be interesting. I was also thinking he could get into some journalism or PI work.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,954
    LucknFate wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    The problem is Bond can never have a normal life. That can either be depicted as a tragedy or to his benefit dependent on the story.

    That and I suspect him and Moneypenny wouldn't be a good couple in practice!

    Why can't Bond ever have a normal life? Who made up that rule? I imagine the espionage fatality rate is not 100%. The Wired "Spy Breaks Down Movies" videos prove somebody knowledgable is able to retire from the business.

    To be fair I wouldn't say it's an established rule (there are no rules and in theory you can do pretty much anything creatively with Bond, for better or worse!)

    But ultimately I get the sense that's a big part of his character, and it's an idea that runs through the series in various ways. In Fleming you have Vesper, so his attempt to leave the spy game ends with tragedy. His relationship with Tiffany Case ends between books. Even when confronted with the opportunity to settle down with Tracy he becomes worried he might not have the exciting life he had before, and of course ultimately it ends in another tragedy. He's not able to have that life with Kissy either. That idea of fate and Bond's job ultimately drawing him back, and as a result meaning he can never have a normal life, is similarly there in the Craig films.

    With the pre Craig films there's always that sense Bond will return for another adventure, even if the film ends with him and a woman in bed. You know those conquests aren't going to be making a reappearance, and Bond likely isn't going to settle down with them (or at least we're never going to see this). I think there's always that element to Bond as a fictional character. He's not able to have a definitive ending in that way. It made more sense for Bond to sacrifice himself in NTTD rather than have a happy life in that sense.

    That's great in a franchise where the actors don't age, or at least the narrative ignores their age, like in the pre-Craig films. But the Craig films drew attention to and started to telegraph The End Of Bond as early as Skyfall. That an end was coming, he was facing a reckoning of age, reliability, role, and relevance. It's natural I think for the audience to begin to expect either a dramatic end or a sense of finality that could come with the standard "riding into the sunset" ending which I'm talking about. Plenty of westerns pull it off, sure sometimes the cowboy comes back alone again, but there's often hope at the end of a story. I like those stories better than ones that end in death. Especially a convoluted death. So what I'm saying is I think you're right, that the Bond films should ignore The End Of Bond as much as they can, and can always reboot before having to confront age and ability. But if they choose not to reboot, then I'm saying a walk-off with Moneypenny could be a nice "sunset" moment for Bond one day, but at the end of the actor's run. It would have best worked with Roger and Lois I think. It's the last film, so we don't have to worry about whether or not it works out for them in the end. Maybe it doesn't. But for a moment there was hope for Bond to find some other sense of purpose and thrills in life.

    Are there any realistic possibilities for Bond working outside of spycraft? Maybe he fades back into military service as a senior commander of some sort on a ship, and ages out that way. Would go against the having a wife bit, but it could be interesting. I was also thinking he could get into some journalism or PI work.

    I agree.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    Posts: 1,205
    I know it's a weird question, but honestly, what do you think of fans who romantically pair these two?
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    Personally, i just don't see the appeal, but to each their own.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,290
    I know it's a weird question, but honestly, what do you think of fans who romantically pair these two?
    ...
    Personally, i just don't see the appeal, but to each their own.
    Excuse me, but they do WHAT? Never heard of anything like that.

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