The incredible potential of Artificial Intelligence Bond films. Video samples.

edited June 1 in Bond 26 & Beyond Posts: 543
Can the admin please allow me to post this topic as it's a serious suggestion.

The potential of a James Bond film with an AI former James Bond actor is incredible. I believe it may be a better option than finding a new actor for Bond 26 or maybe used to make a spin off Bond film in the near future.

Here are two samples I made to show the potential of AI James Bond. They're not made with the latest groundbreaking Google Veo 3 software which incorporates perfect voice and video together, however, these clips show how advanced AI has become in 2025.

Both videos upscale to high definition 1440p resolution.

I chose this image as the reference. Roger Moore looking cool from Live And Let Die.

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AI video 1 using that image as reference. I added a retro filter to make it look closer to the 1970s grain film stock:



Video 2



That was done with software less powerful than Veo 3 but you can see how impressive it looks. Roger Moore looks real.

In video 2 the AI software creates a new background. Notice how smooth the invented background is in video 2. The camera pans around Moore and you see the car behind him. That's all predictive algorithmic code based on a photo.

Imagine a full length feature film with a former Bond actor with a perfect replication of his mannerisms, voice (or a similar voice) in full 4K AI realism. I did the clips with a few lines of text. Imagine the potential if you had Veo 4 or Veo 5 and six months of work to create every scene, edit it.

This may be the future of the James Bond franchise post 2035 when it's in the public domain.

Would fans want to see a former actor, one deceased, back to AI life? Well, that's a personal opinion. Some fans may not want it to happen, that's perfectly understandable, but some fans may be excited by the possibility. Hopefully those two video clips show the potential. AI video rendering is not some passing gimmick. It's groundbreaking technology hence why SAG-AFTRA (actors) union and WGA (writers) union went on strike in 2023. They don't want AI to take away their jobs. The power of AI will change cinema and tv production regardless of what the unions want. Fans should accept AI may be the future for the franchise. Maybe not this decade but in the 2030s.


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  • Posts: 2,563
    Keep AI as far away from Bond as possible. And let’s stop resurrecting dead actors thinking we’ll somehow recreate the genuine article using AI - it’s disrespectful to the legacy of these actors and everyone else involved in the production of these films. Let’s enjoy what they’ve made - and allow new people to carry on the torch.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,293
    bondywondy wrote: »
    Fans should accept AI may be the future for the franchise.

    No, but thank you for the suggestion.
  • edited June 1 Posts: 543
    bondywondy wrote: »
    Fans should accept AI may be the future for the franchise.

    No, but thank you for the suggestion.

    I'm only going to post this once as the admin thought I was mentioning it too much in the other thread. 😉

    It may not matter what you think or want. The technology is here and we'll have to deal with it. If Amazon can make an AI Bond film at a fraction of the cost of a real life Bond films... that's quite an incentive. Amazon could potentially save 80 percent or more of its production budget if they fully embrace future AI video technology. The cost is a huge factor when making films.

    If you look at what happened with compact discs. Gone. Vast majority of the world stream music or download music. Internet changed how we listen to music.

    Bluray players are being discontinued because people prefer streaming films rather than watching physical media. Bluray will be a niche product come 2030.

    And now we have AI with the means to recreate our world with stunning realism. It's crazy, but it's happened so the film industry may or will have to accept this new technology rather than resist it. And that means an AI James Bond film is not some geeky internet fan's fantasy... it's a real possibility for Bond 27 or 28. If AI technology improves at the current rate AI feature films will be possible within five or so years, perhaps. That's Bond 27 time period.
  • WhyBondWhyBond USA
    Posts: 81
    No AI please unless it's the villain that Bond has to defeat.
  • Posts: 2,012
    When Toy Story was released many critics and fans said there would be no place for CGI animated films and look where we are today. The most obvious missing part of the puzzle so far is continuity, repeatability and coherent images from one prompt to another but it IS only a matter of time.
  • edited June 1 Posts: 885
    There is lot of ways AI could benify to Bond fans at a fan level : translation/research help, fun/what-if tidbits, musics/voices/video for fans/youtube projets, illustration for books without being bankrupt by copyrighted-images-mafias, even fan-comics adaptation...

    But video for a full-lengh official film ? No way.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,293
    bondywondy wrote: »
    The technology is here and we'll have to deal with it.

    Oh, I'll deal with it alright: by never ever giving a cent to anything made using it. Total creative bankrupcy, and the videos you made are prime examples of that. Your examples of other developments are true but their relevancy is weak, as how we consume media (and that has changed) doesn't change the fact that the media itself is still made by people using skills and craft. AI being a "matter of time" is no excuse.

    So again: no, but thank you for the suggestion.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited June 1 Posts: 2,630
    AI doesn't even work in photography, when it comes to editing photos. I have to spend a lot of time on my laptop using Photoshop. Because...as much as I want to make a photo look good, I have to make sure it looks artistic and natural at the same time.
    AI doesn't do that. It just gives the photo a cartoonish look and make the subject's texture and color very off-putting.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,155
    AI doesn't even work in photography, when it comes to editing photos. I have to spend a lot of time on my laptop using Photoshop. Because...as much as I want to make a photo look good, I have to make sure it looks artistic and natural at the same time.
    AI doesn't do that. It just gives the photo a cartoonish look and make the subject's texture and color very off-putting.

    It will do it.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,630
    mattjoes wrote: »
    AI doesn't even work in photography, when it comes to editing photos. I have to spend a lot of time on my laptop using Photoshop. Because...as much as I want to make a photo look good, I have to make sure it looks artistic and natural at the same time.
    AI doesn't do that. It just gives the photo a cartoonish look and make the subject's texture and color very off-putting.

    It will do it.

    Oh, you mean AI works in photo editing?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,155
    mattjoes wrote: »
    AI doesn't even work in photography, when it comes to editing photos. I have to spend a lot of time on my laptop using Photoshop. Because...as much as I want to make a photo look good, I have to make sure it looks artistic and natural at the same time.
    AI doesn't do that. It just gives the photo a cartoonish look and make the subject's texture and color very off-putting.

    It will do it.

    Oh, you mean AI works in photo editing?

    I mean that whatever you feel it cannot do at the moment, it will be able to do in the relatively near future. For photos, videos, text, whatever. And yes, I can see it being used to create Bond films if desired and legally viable. But frankly, to focus such a discussion specifically on Bond films seems silly because when it happens, for better or worse, it'll probably happen all over the place, not just for Bond. And in such a radically different situation, in such a radically different world, why give a damn about Bond of all things?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited June 1 Posts: 8,958
    Within the near future AI will mostly be used to save money on Visual effects. Basically 10 or 15 VFX artists will be able to bare the load of what would've taken 50 or 100 people in the past to do. Generating a fake explosion, or a digital set extension will be much quicker, easier than before.

    That'll be the impact on films, but we aren't getting AI characters in Bond movies, that's complete hysteria.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited June 1 Posts: 2,630
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    AI doesn't even work in photography, when it comes to editing photos. I have to spend a lot of time on my laptop using Photoshop. Because...as much as I want to make a photo look good, I have to make sure it looks artistic and natural at the same time.
    AI doesn't do that. It just gives the photo a cartoonish look and make the subject's texture and color very off-putting.

    It will do it.

    Oh, you mean AI works in photo editing?

    I mean that whatever you feel it cannot do at the moment, it will be able to do in the relatively near future. For photos, videos, text, whatever. And yes, I can see it being used to create Bond films if desired and legally viable. But frankly, to focus such a discussion specifically on Bond films seems silly because when it happens, for better or worse, it'll probably happen all over the place, not just for Bond. And in such a radically different situation, in such a radically different world, why give a damn about Bond of all things?

    Ok. I see what you mean. Phew! But I'm really not a fan of AI, to be honest.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,155
    Within the near future AI will mostly be used to save money on Visual effects. Basically 10 or 15 VFX artists will be able to bare the load of what would've taken 50 or 100 people in the past to do. Generating a fake explosion, or a digital set extension will be much quicker, easier than before.

    That'll be the impact on films, but we aren't getting AI characters in Bond movies, that's complete hysteria.

    I think what's going to happen in the future is that everybody at home is going to create their own stories. AI can already provide text, images, video and audio, so all the building blocks are there. Years ago, radio was what everyone listened to, television was what everyone watched. To a large extent, that's been, as they say, democratized: anyone can have a podcast or a YouTube channel; the tools are there and will continue to improve. The same is going to happen with movies—all movies, not just Bond. By then, whatever commercial entertainment forms there are will be vastly different to provide that which we cannot get by ourselves at home. New artforms will emerge and others will become less popular.

    In the meantime though, as you say, AI is going to be used in more marginal ways, but I'm sure it'll become more and more prominent in commercial filmmaking until it becomes something everyone can use. And of course it'll have an effect on all aspects of life. It's going to be another industrial revolution. Maybe the end result will be better, maybe it won't, but the transition is probably going to suck. Hopefully something has been learned since the last time this kind of major change happened.
  • As soon as I learn something artistic was made by AI, even if I initially couldn’t tell, I lose all interest. “A computer made it”. Neat, I guess. That’s not why I engage with art.
  • edited June 3 Posts: 543
    One more clip to show the potential of AI.

    Sean Connery returns as James Bond.

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/RcIWkSvWc9c

    This was the image reference I used:

    Connery-James-Bond-martini.jpg?resize=800%2C474&ssl=1

    The clip was not generated by the current state of the art Veo 3 app. I used a less powerful version but you can see the extraordinary potential of AI.

  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    Posts: 796
    As soon as I learn something artistic was made by AI, even if I initially couldn’t tell, I lose all interest. “A computer made it”. Neat, I guess. That’s not why I engage with art.

    That's because it isn't art. Art has to be made by a human.
  • edited June 3 Posts: 543
    This is my final render post. No more upload links after this one. 😉

    Honey Ryder as a photo:

    Hr1.jpg

    Honey Ryder made AI real using that photo:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/wM64Vpp5COo

    The prompt was: woman touches her hair. It's a perfect render. She looks real. I upscaled the video to HD to get maximum realism effect.

    When the AI gets it right it's accurately recreating people. That's what's so extraordinary about this technology. It's managed to capture the essence of what it means to be human. The mannerisms, the myriad of expressions. And now Veo 3 has captured vocal performance. Perfect vocal recreation.

    We may not need a new Bond actor in five years or so. That's what's so crazy. In theory if the AI can recreate real life to, let's say, 99 percent accuracy you don't need a new James Bond actor. If the relatives/ the estate of Sean Connery, Roger Moore granted permission Amazon could make a Bond spin off film starring Sean Connery or Roger Moore. Maybe a Lazenby,Dalton, Brosnan, Craig one too. Back in their prime set in whatever time period is most appropriate.

    I know some Bond fans may think "its disrespectful or weird to think Sean Connery/ Roger Moore should come back to AI life"... but you could look at it from another perspective: if done faithfully the film would honour their memory. If the AI actor were 99% accurate then it's faithful. It's Sean Connery's essence recreated. It's his face, his mannerisms, his voice, his screen presence. Would that be exploitative? No. If permission were granted then no exploitation.

    I think the Honey Ryder short is a glimpse of what is possible given the future advancement of AI and if people are prepared to spend the time to create AI films. The process will be time consuming because a film needs hundreds of AI rendered scenes edited, a screenplay, a professional sound mix, etc. AI film making will be a creative challenge but it won't cost 200 million dollars. That's the other game changer. Not only is AI a game changer in terms of video and audio creation, the cost of AI is hugely less expensive than the cost of making high budget live action and cgi/cartoon films.

    Amazon will save millions if AI is so advanced it looks like a live action film.

    You can't stop the AI revolution. Just watch that short of Ursuala Andress. She look real. But she's not. Just computer magic. This is the biggest change in video entertainment since the invention of film. Film is no longer needed. AI is here.

    Ways-AI-Will-Transform-The-World-in-2023-1.png










  • Posts: 2,563
    bondywondy wrote: »
    This is my final render post. No more upload links after this one. 😉

    Honey Ryder as a photo:

    Hr1.jpg

    Honey Ryder made AI real using that photo:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/wM64Vpp5COo

    The prompt was: woman touches her hair. It's a perfect render. She looks real. I upscaled the video to HD to get maximum realism effect.

    When the AI gets it right it's accurately recreating people. That's what's so extraordinary about this technology. It's managed to capture the essence of what it means to be human. The mannerisms, the myriad of expressions. And now Veo 3 has captured vocal performance. Perfect vocal recreation.

    We may not need a new Bond actor in five years or so. That's what's so crazy. In theory if the AI can recreate real life to, let's say, 99 percent accuracy you don't need a new James Bond actor. If the relatives/ the estate of Sean Connery, Roger Moore granted permission Amazon could make a Bond spin off film starring Sean Connery or Roger Moore. Maybe a Lazenby,Dalton, Brosnan, Craig one too. Back in their prime set in whatever time period is most appropriate.

    I know some Bond fans may think "its disrespectful or weird to think Sean Connery/ Roger Moore should come back to AI life"... but you could look at it from another perspective: if done faithfully the film would honour their memory. If the AI actor were 99% accurate then it's faithful. It's Sean Connery's essence recreated. It's his face, his mannerisms, his voice, his screen presence. Would that be exploitative? No. If permission were granted then no exploitation.

    I think the Honey Ryder short is a glimpse of what is possible given the future advancement of AI and if people are prepared to spend the time to create AI films. The process will be time consuming because a film needs hundreds of AI rendered scenes edited, a screenplay, a professional sound mix, etc. AI film making will be a creative challenge but it won't cost 200 million dollars. That's the other game changer. Not only is AI a game changer in terms of video and audio creation, the cost of AI is hugely less expensive than the cost of making high budget live action and cgi/cartoon films.

    Amazon will save millions if AI is so advanced it looks like a live action film.

    You can't stop the AI revolution. Just watch that short of Ursuala Andress. She look real. But she's not. Just computer magic. This is the biggest change in video entertainment since the invention of film. Film is no longer needed. AI is here.

    Ways-AI-Will-Transform-The-World-in-2023-1.png










    Why are you so obsessed with pushing this AI garbage when people have made it quite clear they aren’t really interested in its offerings? No one wants to see AI replicate Connery, Moore, or whomever else and do it poorly at that. I don’t care how advanced the technology gets - I don’t care how much it make look like Connery - as far as myself and many others are concerned - if it’s AI then we don’t care.
  • Posts: 2,012
    bondywondy wrote: »
    This is my final render post. No more upload links after this one. 😉

    Honey Ryder as a photo:

    Hr1.jpg

    Honey Ryder made AI real using that photo:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/wM64Vpp5COo

    The prompt was: woman touches her hair. It's a perfect render. She looks real. I upscaled the video to HD to get maximum realism effect.

    When the AI gets it right it's accurately recreating people. That's what's so extraordinary about this technology. It's managed to capture the essence of what it means to be human. The mannerisms, the myriad of expressions. And now Veo 3 has captured vocal performance. Perfect vocal recreation.

    We may not need a new Bond actor in five years or so. That's what's so crazy. In theory if the AI can recreate real life to, let's say, 99 percent accuracy you don't need a new James Bond actor. If the relatives/ the estate of Sean Connery, Roger Moore granted permission Amazon could make a Bond spin off film starring Sean Connery or Roger Moore. Maybe a Lazenby,Dalton, Brosnan, Craig one too. Back in their prime set in whatever time period is most appropriate.

    I know some Bond fans may think "its disrespectful or weird to think Sean Connery/ Roger Moore should come back to AI life"... but you could look at it from another perspective: if done faithfully the film would honour their memory. If the AI actor were 99% accurate then it's faithful. It's Sean Connery's essence recreated. It's his face, his mannerisms, his voice, his screen presence. Would that be exploitative? No. If permission were granted then no exploitation.

    I think the Honey Ryder short is a glimpse of what is possible given the future advancement of AI and if people are prepared to spend the time to create AI films. The process will be time consuming because a film needs hundreds of AI rendered scenes edited, a screenplay, a professional sound mix, etc. AI film making will be a creative challenge but it won't cost 200 million dollars. That's the other game changer. Not only is AI a game changer in terms of video and audio creation, the cost of AI is hugely less expensive than the cost of making high budget live action and cgi/cartoon films.

    Amazon will save millions if AI is so advanced it looks like a live action film.

    You can't stop the AI revolution. Just watch that short of Ursuala Andress. She look real. But she's not. Just computer magic. This is the biggest change in video entertainment since the invention of film. Film is no longer needed. AI is here.

    Ways-AI-Will-Transform-The-World-in-2023-1.png










    Why are you so obsessed with pushing this AI garbage when people have made it quite clear they aren’t really interested in its offerings? No one wants to see AI replicate Connery, Moore, or whomever else and do it poorly at that. I don’t care how advanced the technology gets - I don’t care how much it make look like Connery - as far as myself and many others are concerned - if it’s AI then we don’t care.

    Because he see the future it will bring. As new generations get used to AI it will become more mundane and be accepted as just one more form of entertainment. As I said earlier, there were a LOT of people who said Toy Story CGI animated films would never catch on.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,293
    delfloria wrote: »
    Because he see the future it will bring. As new generations get used to AI it will become more mundane and be accepted as just one more form of entertainment. As I said earlier, there were a LOT of people who said Toy Story CGI animated films would never catch on.

    It was a false equivalence before and it remains as such now. CGI actually requires work.
  • edited June 3 Posts: 2,563
    CGI is all the more impressive (if it looks good that is) when you consider the hundreds of hours poured into creating just single VFX shot. I find nothing impressive about AI’s potential in the Film/TV industry because I fail to find the creativity and hard work in typing words into a text box and prompting an AI to create an image because people either lack the talent or are just to lazy too learn how to create genuine art. It’ll be a nightmare when the technology gets to the point where we can no longer distinguish between what’s genuine or what’s made by AI - let alone the damage it will do to jobs and careers.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    Posts: 796
    bondywondy wrote: »

    Honey Ryder made AI real using that photo:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/wM64Vpp5COo

    The prompt was: woman touches her hair. It's a perfect render. She looks real.

    I've never seen a real person's hand randomly disintegrate.
  • edited June 3 Posts: 2,038
    CGI killed traditional animation. It wasn't that clean.

    AI is going to destroy a lot of jobs, but that's really its goal. It's making everything cheaper.

    But I don't think we'll ever see Connery play Bond again (only in our fantasies). Young audiences don't know who he is.
  • Posts: 2,012
    delfloria wrote: »
    Because he see the future it will bring. As new generations get used to AI it will become more mundane and be accepted as just one more form of entertainment. As I said earlier, there were a LOT of people who said Toy Story CGI animated films would never catch on.

    It was a false equivalence before and it remains as such now. CGI actually requires work.

    No it's not, CGI was deemed to cold and autonomous during the release of Toy Story by many critics. Today CGI requires a lot less work now because of AI and it will continue to make inroads into Visual Effects work. Right now rotoscoping is headed for the chopping block and the jobs that go with it. As AI continues to progress and it's ability to analyze artists input it's use will continue to grow. I was recently able to create a proof of concept creature with full animation by simply drawing a black and white sketch to start with. Also a friend recently produced a commercial featuring dolphins and other animals for Google completely using AI and was it was approved.
    CGI is all the more impressive (if it looks good that is) when you consider the hundreds of hours poured into creating just single VFX shot. I find nothing impressive about AI’s potential in the Film/TV industry because I fail to find the creativity and hard work in typing words into a text box and prompting an AI to create an image because people either lack the talent or are just to lazy too learn how to create genuine art. It’ll be a nightmare when the technology gets to the point where we can no longer distinguish between what’s genuine or what’s made by AI - let alone the damage it will do to jobs and careers.

    On the other hand I find the barrage of CGI visual effects already peppered throughout things like the Marvel projects soul crushing. I would not call most of the VFX shots we see in films today art. The supervisors and designers are the artistic guides throughout the process and if AI becomes one more tool to use then the audience and producers will benefit even though some jobs will be lost along the way. We are on the precipice of the same seismic shift we saw during the release of the first Jurassic Park.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    edited June 3 Posts: 412
    AI could work.

    Of course, it should never be attempted but inevitably will if it beats employing real people, which it one day might.

    They could tinker with the classics. Imagine Le Chiffre interrogating Roger Moore, for example. Sean Connery buying Bibi an ice cream made out of stainless steel (you know he would).

    The possibilities are possible.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,155
    bondywondy wrote: »

    Honey Ryder made AI real using that photo:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/wM64Vpp5COo

    The prompt was: woman touches her hair. It's a perfect render. She looks real.

    I've never seen a real person's hand randomly disintegrate.

    So what? It's notable that this stuff can be pulled off with such a high degree of authenticity. And it's obvious where the technology is going. Things will continue to be improved upon. One doesn't have to be happy about it, but that's what's happening.

    As for artistry, I can imagine a new concept of artistry emerging in the future in which the person's taste and creativity is reflected in what they ask AI to do for them and how they iterate upon it and refine it. Much like a film director's hand being noticeable in their films.

    delfloria wrote: »
    bondywondy wrote: »
    This is my final render post. No more upload links after this one. 😉

    Honey Ryder as a photo:

    Hr1.jpg

    Honey Ryder made AI real using that photo:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/wM64Vpp5COo

    The prompt was: woman touches her hair. It's a perfect render. She looks real. I upscaled the video to HD to get maximum realism effect.

    When the AI gets it right it's accurately recreating people. That's what's so extraordinary about this technology. It's managed to capture the essence of what it means to be human. The mannerisms, the myriad of expressions. And now Veo 3 has captured vocal performance. Perfect vocal recreation.

    We may not need a new Bond actor in five years or so. That's what's so crazy. In theory if the AI can recreate real life to, let's say, 99 percent accuracy you don't need a new James Bond actor. If the relatives/ the estate of Sean Connery, Roger Moore granted permission Amazon could make a Bond spin off film starring Sean Connery or Roger Moore. Maybe a Lazenby,Dalton, Brosnan, Craig one too. Back in their prime set in whatever time period is most appropriate.

    I know some Bond fans may think "its disrespectful or weird to think Sean Connery/ Roger Moore should come back to AI life"... but you could look at it from another perspective: if done faithfully the film would honour their memory. If the AI actor were 99% accurate then it's faithful. It's Sean Connery's essence recreated. It's his face, his mannerisms, his voice, his screen presence. Would that be exploitative? No. If permission were granted then no exploitation.

    I think the Honey Ryder short is a glimpse of what is possible given the future advancement of AI and if people are prepared to spend the time to create AI films. The process will be time consuming because a film needs hundreds of AI rendered scenes edited, a screenplay, a professional sound mix, etc. AI film making will be a creative challenge but it won't cost 200 million dollars. That's the other game changer. Not only is AI a game changer in terms of video and audio creation, the cost of AI is hugely less expensive than the cost of making high budget live action and cgi/cartoon films.

    Amazon will save millions if AI is so advanced it looks like a live action film.

    You can't stop the AI revolution. Just watch that short of Ursuala Andress. She look real. But she's not. Just computer magic. This is the biggest change in video entertainment since the invention of film. Film is no longer needed. AI is here.

    Ways-AI-Will-Transform-The-World-in-2023-1.png










    Why are you so obsessed with pushing this AI garbage when people have made it quite clear they aren’t really interested in its offerings? No one wants to see AI replicate Connery, Moore, or whomever else and do it poorly at that. I don’t care how advanced the technology gets - I don’t care how much it make look like Connery - as far as myself and many others are concerned - if it’s AI then we don’t care.

    Because he see the future it will bring. As new generations get used to AI it will become more mundane and be accepted as just one more form of entertainment. As I said earlier, there were a LOT of people who said Toy Story CGI animated films would never catch on.
    Good point. To us it might feel weird. Young people already born in an AI world will see nothing weird or unpleasant about using it, even with artistic or self-expression purposes. Doubly so as AI continues to improve.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,419
    Whenever I hear about AI and the possibilities of Connery or Moore returning as Bond I think of this...



    Not for me.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,293
    delfloria wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    Because he see the future it will bring. As new generations get used to AI it will become more mundane and be accepted as just one more form of entertainment. As I said earlier, there were a LOT of people who said Toy Story CGI animated films would never catch on.

    It was a false equivalence before and it remains as such now. CGI actually requires work.

    No it's not, CGI was deemed to cold and autonomous during the release of Toy Story by many critics. Today CGI requires a lot less work now because of AI and it will continue to make inroads into Visual Effects work. Right now rotoscoping is headed for the chopping block and the jobs that go with it. As AI continues to progress and it's ability to analyze artists input it's use will continue to grow. I was recently able to create a proof of concept creature with full animation by simply drawing a black and white sketch to start with. Also a friend recently produced a commercial featuring dolphins and other animals for Google completely using AI and was it was approved.

    Yes it is, and you've proved it with your elaboration. CGI requires work, regardless of whether it was deemed cold and autonomous by critics. There was still a lot of people working on it regardless of the final result.

    You've just sold us here on the fact that AI requires minimal work, if any at all.

    It's a losing battle admittedly: it's going to be implemented. I have come to accept it on a certain level. But I don't and will likely never respect it, as it strips authenticity away and reduces human elements and craft. It's a shortcut tool, and I hope audiences reject its use if (as the hypothesis of this thread suggests) it worms its way further into mainstream film-making.
  • Posts: 2,012
    delfloria wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    Because he see the future it will bring. As new generations get used to AI it will become more mundane and be accepted as just one more form of entertainment. As I said earlier, there were a LOT of people who said Toy Story CGI animated films would never catch on.

    It was a false equivalence before and it remains as such now. CGI actually requires work.

    No it's not, CGI was deemed to cold and autonomous during the release of Toy Story by many critics. Today CGI requires a lot less work now because of AI and it will continue to make inroads into Visual Effects work. Right now rotoscoping is headed for the chopping block and the jobs that go with it. As AI continues to progress and it's ability to analyze artists input it's use will continue to grow. I was recently able to create a proof of concept creature with full animation by simply drawing a black and white sketch to start with. Also a friend recently produced a commercial featuring dolphins and other animals for Google completely using AI and was it was approved.

    Yes it is, and you've proved it with your elaboration. CGI requires work, regardless of whether it was deemed cold and autonomous by critics. There was still a lot of people working on it regardless of the final result.

    You've just sold us here on the fact that AI requires minimal work, if any at all.

    It's a losing battle admittedly: it's going to be implemented. I have come to accept it on a certain level. But I don't and will likely never respect it, as it strips authenticity away and reduces human elements and craft. It's a shortcut tool, and I hope audiences reject its use if (as the hypothesis of this thread suggests) it worms its way further into mainstream film-making.

    When did the amount of people or time become a criteria for art? I wonder what a lot stunt performers would say about the use of digital doubles being used? VFX could be considered the lazy way of doing stunts and puppeted creatures. BTW you won't have to accept it but two generations from now may very well have a different perspective. Much the same way a lot my generation does not accept video games as entertainment.
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