Would you rather watch Daniel Craig in Knives Out OR The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo?

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  • edited May 28 Posts: 3,208
    I actually agree that Doubtfire is a weird film. Never been a favourite of mine personally. If I want to watch a questionable spin on Some Like It Hot I'd take White Chicks over it (actually I quite like that movie, although it might just be kitsch nostalgia).

    Mars Attacks is awesome, campy B-Movie fun. It's one of my favourite Burton films. I'd say Brosnan's performance is better in that too.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    I actually watched Mrs Doubtfire at the cinema I think it was because PB had been announced as Bond around this time... I maybe wrong.

    Now I only own one of the two films and its Mars Attacks, Mrs Doubtfire is not my kind of film.

    Mars Attacks wins.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I always find it funny that Brosnan was clearly intended to be the "unlikeable rival love interest" in Mrs Doubtfire yet he actually ends up being a perfectly decent bloke, and Brosnan adds quite a bit of warmth to him.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
    edited May 28 Posts: 8,776
    Time to watch Mars Attacks! again. I forgot all about the fact that Pierce is in Mrs. Doubtfire, so I guess he wasn't that impressive.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 28 Posts: 15,353
    I always find it funny that Brosnan was clearly intended to be the "unlikeable rival love interest" in Mrs Doubtfire yet he actually ends up being a perfectly decent bloke, and Brosnan adds quite a bit of warmth to him.

    Yeah, and to be fair I don't think that was just Pierce: the character was written as being kind and nice to Sally Field's kids, whereas Williams' manchild character acts appallingly and is angry at this man for helping their mother try to give the kids a stable upbringing (and putting a roof over their heads!). He is a monster.
    That trailer that cuts it to look like a horror film isn't far off the mark!
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
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    Mallory wrote: »
    Mars Attacks! is more my cup of tea than Mrs Doubtfire, a film I can never understand why it's so popular.

    Dude, same. I can't understand why Mrs. Doubtfire is so popular and Mars Attacks! isn't. Some see it as nadir of Tim Burton, and I think they're crazy. Or they have no sense of humor. Clearly, Alice In Wonderland is his nadir.
  • edited May 28 Posts: 3,208
    Mallory wrote: »
    Mars Attacks! is more my cup of tea than Mrs Doubtfire, a film I can never understand why it's so popular.

    Dude, same. I can't understand why Mrs. Doubtfire is so popular and Mars Attacks! isn't. Some see it as nadir of Tim Burton, and I think they're crazy. Or they have no sense of humor. Clearly, Alice In Wonderland is his nadir.

    I guess at the time people were expecting something more similar to Independence Day (which came out that summer). Mars Attacks is a movie that knows what it's about - again, it's very much in that campy B-Movie style, and I think if you're not expecting that (even after seeing some of Burton's other movies) it can feel a bit strange. For me it's this and Ed Wood that are his most underrated films (maybe Big Fish too, though I'm not sure if I'd call it underrated).

    Anyway, Burton's had much lower points. Planet of the Apes, Alice in Wonderland, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I actually don't rate Sleepy Hollow that highly either.
    mtm wrote: »
    I always find it funny that Brosnan was clearly intended to be the "unlikeable rival love interest" in Mrs Doubtfire yet he actually ends up being a perfectly decent bloke, and Brosnan adds quite a bit of warmth to him.

    Yeah, and to be fair I don't think that was just Pierce: the character was written as being kind and nice to Sally Field's kids, whereas Williams' manchild character acts appallingly and is angry at this man for helping their mother try to give the kids a stable upbringing (and putting a roof over their heads!). He is a monster.
    That trailer that cuts it to look like a horror film isn't far off the mark!

    The fact that Williams' character seemingly tries to kill Brosnan is wild too (or at least effectively poisons him. No idea how that idea made it past rewrites).
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited May 28 Posts: 40,670
    I always find it funny that Brosnan was clearly intended to be the "unlikeable rival love interest" in Mrs Doubtfire yet he actually ends up being a perfectly decent bloke, and Brosnan adds quite a bit of warmth to him.

    I love that "evil stepdad" angle in films where the guy is actually really likable and has almost no bad qualities to him, like Cary Elwes in Liar Liar.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Mrs. Doubtfire. But it is a shame Mars Attacks DVD have very bad video/audio (what made those days even worse) and later Bluray release who can't remember or i ever seen in stores don't take over two extra's (Trailer, Isolated score).
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    I suspect part of the reason I never took to Pierce as Bond is that I only knew him as that bloke who stole Robin Williams's wife. SO smarmy. Yuck.

    Mars Attacks is a blast but I'll always choose to watch Robin.
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    Mars Attack!!!!
  • mattjoesmattjoes At my most trollish behavior
    edited May 29 Posts: 6,878
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    I suspect part of the reason I never took to Pierce as Bond is that I only knew him as that bloke who stole Robin Williams's wife. SO smarmy. Yuck.
    He did? I thought they were already divorced when Sally met Harry Pierce, a nice man by all accounts. I mean, I think they knew each other from before, but nothing had happened.

    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Mars Attack!!!!
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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Mrs. Doubtfire is a bonafide childhood favourite of mine. Mars Attacks is another goofy Burton film that I struggle with each time I watch it. (Burton is not my guy, although some of his films are great IMO.) Regardless of Pierce, I'll always pick the Robin Williams (dare I say) classic over Mars Attacks. If we're throwing Death Train in the mix, though... now there's a not-so-good action flick with a really good Brosnan performance in it.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Brosnan's remake of THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR (1999)? Many people actually prefer it to the 1968 Steve McQueen original. (For the record, I enjoy them both).

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    Mars Attack! Bigger role, better role, and more my kind of humour.
    I might confess it here: I find Robin Williams overrated as an actor, including as a comedic actor.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    I suspect part of the reason I never took to Pierce as Bond is that I only knew him as that bloke who stole Robin Williams's wife. SO smarmy. Yuck.
    He did? I thought they were already divorced when Sally met Harry Pierce, a nice man by all accounts. I mean, I think they knew each other from before, but nothing had happened.

    I was 14 or 15 when I watched it so I may have missed some of the subtleties. I just knew who I'd prefer to have as my dad :)
  • mattjoesmattjoes At my most trollish behavior
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Mars Attack! Bigger role, better role, and more my kind of humour.
    I might confess it here: I find Robin Williams overrated as an actor, including as a comedic actor.
    Haha, I find him underrated, especially as a dramatic actor.

    Agent_99 wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    I suspect part of the reason I never took to Pierce as Bond is that I only knew him as that bloke who stole Robin Williams's wife. SO smarmy. Yuck.
    He did? I thought they were already divorced when Sally met Harry Pierce, a nice man by all accounts. I mean, I think they knew each other from before, but nothing had happened.

    I was 14 or 15 when I watched it so I may have missed some of the subtleties. I just knew who I'd prefer to have as my dad :)
    But of course.
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Mars Attack! Bigger role, better role, and more my kind of humour.
    I might confess it here: I find Robin Williams overrated as an actor, including as a comedic actor.
    Haha, I find him underrated, especially as a dramatic actor.

    .

    As a dramatic actor I think he was a bit underrated. But in more comedic roles I’m actually not his biggest fan either (I think Aladdin/the animation captured his style best).
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Excellent discussion of Pierce's acting and also the films!

    Lets pit one Bond actor against another in a non-Bond movie.

    Would you rather watch Sir Sean in Entrapment OR Pierce in The Thomas Crown Affair?

    Both have a caper element. Both feature an attractive female lead to play off. Both released in 1999! Which one are you choosing to watch?
  • edited May 30 Posts: 885
    Entrapment

    Connery and Zeta-Jones are more charismatic and the story has more... everything.

    The Thomas Crown Affair is quite dull.
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    I have never seen Entrapment. I'll add it to the watch list.

    Similarly, I haven't seen The Thomas Crown Affair in a good decade or so. I'll add it to the watch list.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Thomas Crown is the much better film whereas Entrapment feels a bit tacky and tatty.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    I'm probably biased because I'm a fan of the original Thomas Crown Affair, starring the unsurpassed Steve McQueen and Faye Dunaway, and find the remake, while not bad, a bit superfluous. It may actually still be the slightly better movie than Entrapment, but Sean vs. Pierce makes the difference for me. So, Sir Sean all the way.

    BTW: Can anybody tell me how Rene Russo's first name is pronounced? Is it "reen" (as short for Irene) or "renay", in spite of having only one "e" at the end and no accent aigu?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I love Connery, couldn't stand this film. At all. So many things wrong with it.

    Brosnan, on the other hand, fires on all cylinders, he's slick and fun, and, although I can't stand the way he dances with Russo, to me, it's his best performance (why EoN didn't try and nail John McTiernan as a Brosnan Bond director??? That's a missed opportunity, methinks).

    Thomas Crown all the way.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Thomas Crown , no contest…
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 30 Posts: 15,353
    peter wrote: »
    I love Connery, couldn't stand this film. At all. So many things wrong with it.

    There's a good gag where he does a very subtle reaction to the camera that shows he's getting tired when they're out jogging in Scotland, but that might be about it! :)
    I watched it again recently and I think it's rubbish. Sean is Sean so can't complain about him, but I wish it had been good. It doesn't even look good- how do you read 'interior of a Scottish castle with valuable art everywhere' in a script and manage to make that look dreary and flat?
    TC Affair on the other hand looks sumptuous and rich.
    peter wrote: »
    Brosnan, on the other hand, fires on all cylinders, he's slick and fun, and, although I can't stand the way he dances with Russo, to me, it's his best performance (why EoN didn't try and nail John McTiernan as a Brosnan Bond director??? That's a missed opportunity, methinks).

    Absolutely, should have done. He makes this feel classy in a way that PB's Bonds don't quite live up to. I think beyond being his best performance it may well be his best film, fighting up there with one of his early Bonds.
    I must admit I kind of prefer it to the original: the way the original doesn't have Thomas actually committing the crimes himself seems a bit bonkers to me.
  • edited May 30 Posts: 885
    The original is better but it's still one of the weakest McQueen movies.

    John McTiernan was in decline at that time. Sure, he was better than Tamahori or Apted but he had already left his best years behind.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
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    Brosnan in Mars Attacks
    Connery in Entrapement

    Brosnan’s best role was in The Matador. He’s brilliant in it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    R1s1ngs0n wrote: »
    Brosnan in Mars Attacks
    Connery in Entrapement

    Brosnan’s best role was in The Matador. He’s brilliant in it.

    Hear hear! One of my all-time favorites. He's perfect in it.

    Between these two though, I'd have to go with Pierce in The Thomas Crown Affair. I dig that one a lot.
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