Best Bond Cinematography - Elimination Game

Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
edited September 19 in Bond Movies Posts: 717
One of my favorite aspects of any movie. I think it’s time to get best cinematography rolling. Same rules. One vote per person, per day. Either (+1 and -2), or (+1 and -1 and -1)


Let the sport… commence!


Dr. No: 20
From Russia With Love: 20
Goldfinger: 20
Thunderball: 20
You Only Live Twice: 20
On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 20
Diamonds Are Forever: 20
Live and Let Die: 20
The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
Moonraker: 20
For Your Eyes Only: 20
Octopussy: 20
A View To A Kill: 20
The Living Daylights: 20
License to Kill: 20
Goldeneye: 20
Tomorrow Never Dies: 20
The World Is Not Enough: 20
Die Another Day: 20
Casino Royale: 20
Quantum of Solace: 20
Skyfall: 20
Spectre: 20
No Time To Die: 20
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  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    Posts: 2,147
    Monday (9/19)

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21 (+1)
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 20
    Diamonds Are Forever: 20
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 20
    A View To A Kill: 20
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 20
    The World Is Not Enough: 20
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 18 (-2)
    Skyfall: 20
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 7,235
    Monday (9/19)

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 20
    Diamonds Are Forever: 18 (-2)
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 20
    A View To A Kill: 20
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 20
    The World Is Not Enough: 20
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 19 (+1)
    Skyfall: 20
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 3,684
    How do we define "cinematography"? This has nothing to do with the editing? I'm not sure if we all understand it the same way (?)
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    edited September 19 Posts: 717
    I think this captures it…

    Per Britannica - “the general composition of a scene; lighting of the set or location; the choice of cameras, lenses, filters, and film stock; the camera angle and movements”

    Definitely NOT the editing - “cinematography is more so the visual concept and editing is the process.”
  • edited September 19 Posts: 833
    How do we define "cinematography"? This has nothing to do with the editing? I'm not sure if we all understand it the same way (?)

    Cinematography is the overall visual look of the film - the lighting, camera movements, angles, compositions etc.

    I get what you mean, editing can influence how the cinematography comes across (ie. if a particular shot is placed after another this can create some sort of intellectual or emotional response from the viewer) but they are different.

    Monday 9/19

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 20
    Diamonds Are Forever: 16 (-2)
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 20
    A View To A Kill: 20
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 20
    The World Is Not Enough: 20
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 19
    Skyfall: 21 (+1)
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 7,235
    How do we define "cinematography"? This has nothing to do with the editing? I'm not sure if we all understand it the same way (?)

    Correct. Nothing to do with editing. As explained well by members above: editing can ruin good cinematography but objectively the two have nothing to do with each other.
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 12,821
    Tuesday 20/09

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 21 +1
    Diamonds Are Forever: 16
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 20
    A View To A Kill: 20
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 20
    The World Is Not Enough: 20
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 17 -2
    Skyfall: 21
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20



  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    Posts: 717
    Monday

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 21
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14 (-2)
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 20
    A View To A Kill: 20
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 20
    The World Is Not Enough: 20
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 18 (+1)
    Skyfall: 21
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger we are in this together
    Posts: 44,865
    Tuesday

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 21
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 20
    A View To A Kill: 20
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 20
    The World Is Not Enough: 18 (-2)
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 19 (+1)
    Skyfall: 21
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • edited September 20 Posts: 419
    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 22 (+1)
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 20
    A View To A Kill: 20
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18 (-2)
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 19
    Skyfall: 21
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20

  • edited September 20 Posts: 514
    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 22
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 18 -2
    A View To A Kill: 20
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 20 +1
    Skyfall: 21
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20

    Feeling the need to defend QOS, I'm reflecting cinematography, not editing. Unfortnately, I hate the look of Moore's films...so drab and they have the most uninspiring compositions Of the series.
  • KronsteenKronsteen Stockholm
    Posts: 509
    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23 (+1)
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14
    Live and Let Die: 20
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 18
    A View To A Kill: 18 (-2)
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 20
    Skyfall: 21
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • Monday

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14
    Live and Let Die: 18 (-2)
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 18
    A View To A Kill: 18
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 20
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 20
    Quantum of Solace: 21 (+1)
    Skyfall: 21
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • Slazenger7Slazenger7 Gothenburg, Sweden
    Posts: 1,030
    Tuesday

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 18
    A View To A Kill: 18
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18 (-2)
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21 (+1)
    Quantum of Solace: 21
    Skyfall: 21
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 4,027
    Tuesday

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 19 (+1)
    A View To A Kill: 18
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 21
    Skyfall: 19 (-2)
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 12,821
    @M_Balje you never cease to amaze.
    Kudos to you my friend.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    Posts: 717
    Tuesday

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 14
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 16 (-2)
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 22 (+1)
    Skyfall: 19
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 37,418
    Tuesday Vote:

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 12 (-2)
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 16
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 23 (+1)
    Skyfall: 19
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 3,684

    Thanks for your answers.
    Tuesday Vote:

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 12
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 14 (-2)
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 18
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 23
    Skyfall: 20 (+1)
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 20

  • This list is already invalid because QOS has more points than SF. Come on, people! I feel like folks are just adding points to QOS to counter those that are subtracting points from it.
    You can’t seriously consider the film to have the best cinematography in the series. That’s nonsense.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited September 20 Posts: 6,267
    Ah yes, the old, "opinions that aren't mine aren't valid".
    Having an issue with the editing in QOS is one thing, but as stated above, it's completely independent from the cinematography. Which, I agree with many above, has moments that are absolutely gorgeous.

    Although to your point, I'd likely vote for Skyfall as well. Beautiful film.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    edited September 20 Posts: 1,476
    This list is already invalid because QOS has more points than SF. Come on, people! I feel like folks are just adding points to QOS to counter those that are subtracting points from it.
    You can’t seriously consider the film to have the best cinematography in the series. That’s nonsense.

    Elimination games often have some tediously silly results, but I can't fault anyone for choosing any of the last four films as being the best shot in the series.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 37,418
    People are still complaining about these games while not participating themselves, acting like there's some objective winner and nothing else should get a vote? Stunning.

    Honestly, I'm more surprised that SF has gotten downvotes so far, and I don't even like the film.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    edited September 20 Posts: 717
    I honestly wish every Bond film looked as good as QOS. The earthy color palate and how it matches the locations, sets, and costumes are pitch perfect for me. Yes, the editing has issues, but that’s not what we’re voting on.

    Skyfall and NTTD are visually more “artistic” sure, but I think QOS cinematography suits Bond to perfection. So, no…. Not invalid. Please cast your own vote if you feel otherwise.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    edited September 20 Posts: 1,476
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    People are still complaining about these games while not participating themselves, acting like there's some objective winner and nothing else should get a vote? Stunning.

    Hey, I vote sometimes! It's just you see a lot of "Joe Don Baker was better than Rami Malek" or "NSNA had better production design than Spectre" and the eyes begin their journey upward into the skull.

    Tuesday Vote:

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 12
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 14
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 16 (-2)
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 23
    Skyfall: 20
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 21 (+1)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 7,235
    Tuesday Vote:

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 10 (-2)
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 20
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 14
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 16
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 23
    Skyfall: 21 (+1)
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 21
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    Posts: 2,147
    Tuesday (9/20)

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 10
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 21 (+1)
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 14
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 16
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 23
    Skyfall: 19 (-2)
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 21
  • Posts: 833
    Tuesday Vote (well, 24 hours since my last vote anyway, it's technically very early morning where I am, as it was when I did the first vote... oh well...)

    Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 8 (-2)
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 21
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 20
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 14
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 18
    The World Is Not Enough: 16
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 23
    Skyfall: 20 (+1)
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 21
  • Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 8
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 21
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 18 (-2)
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 14
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 19 (+1)
    The World Is Not Enough: 16
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 23
    Skyfall: 20
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 21

    Quantum of Solace and Skyfall are two of the best-looking films in the series. No need to quibble about which is lesser. Tomorrow Never Dies is a pretty great-looking film too. In fact, there are very few films in the series that don't have their strengths in the cinematography department. Even Glen's films in the 80s all have at least a few really nicely composed shots in them.
  • Dr. No: 20
    From Russia With Love: 20
    Goldfinger: 20
    Thunderball: 20
    You Only Live Twice: 21
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 23
    Diamonds Are Forever: 8
    Live and Let Die: 18
    The Man With the Golden Gun: 18 (-2)
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 21
    Moonraker: 20
    For Your Eyes Only: 18
    Octopussy: 19
    A View To A Kill: 14
    The Living Daylights: 20
    License to Kill: 18
    Goldeneye: 20
    Tomorrow Never Dies: 19
    The World Is Not Enough: 16
    Die Another Day: 20
    Casino Royale: 21
    Quantum of Solace: 24 (+1)
    Skyfall: 20
    Spectre: 20
    No Time To Die: 21

    Include me on the QoS and SF bandwagon. Two of the most beautifully shot films of the franchise.
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