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Which Film is the one that feels LEAST like a Bond film to you ?

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  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    It’s between MR and DAD for me for just being “too far out there,” so to speak. All 24 of them are unmistakably Bond films in my eyes, but MR and DAD take me out of the movies the most in their wackiest moments so it has to be those by default for me.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The Mendes film's
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I actually think you could throw LALD up there to be honest. While the theme song is iconic and I do enjoy the film, it's actually quite lacking on the "Bondian" front if you think about it.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited October 2019 Posts: 4,554
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I actually think you could throw LALD up there to be honest. While the theme song is iconic and I do enjoy the film, it's actually quite lacking on the "Bondian" front if you think about it.

    -No Barry / Instead, George Martin
    -No London, for all intents and purposes
    -New York heavy (Harlem)
    -Louisiana heavy / New Orleans funerals
    -black villains
    -Crocodiles
    -Soul Food
    -Voodoo

    No, nothing weird about any of that. ;)

    But a great Bond film, nonetheless.
  • TR007TR007
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    This is a very interesting idea for a thread. I’ll surely have to give my vote to Quantum. It’s a Bourne movie trying to pass itself off as a Bond movie.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Skyfall, Spectre, Die Another Day, Thunderball.

    Spectre is more Bond then DAD, the lair use is inprovement on hotel from QOS but Brother and 24 elements runed it for me. On Long time movie does not work too mabey.

    Atleast with DAD and QOS i walk out cinema with a bit of fun.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    LALD is full of great Bond moment's, the film is awesome
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    LALD is full of great Bond moment's, the film is awesome

    I like when bond and solitaire first meet as well as the crocodile jump
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    M_Balje wrote: »
    Skyfall, Spectre, Die Another Day, Thunderball.

    Spectre is more Bond then DAD, the lair use is inprovement on hotel from QOS but Brother and 24 elements runed it for me. On Long time movie does not work too mabey.

    Atleast with DAD and QOS i walk out cinema with a bit of fun.

    Thunderball is one of your least 'Bondy' films? I never thought I would see that on a thread.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Bond film that lest feels like QOS? LTK




    Thought i'd join in for a second. Bond film that feels least like a Bond film, QOS. I know it has its fans here, but it just lacks that Bond ....... feeling. Though I do like the way that Bond deal with Greene.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I used to rank LTK and QOS pretty highly on my Bond list, but over the years they've gone down because I've begun to enjoy them less. I still admire parts of them greatly, and Dalton and Craig are fantastic. Funnily, whatever flaws they have happens to be strengths the other has. LTK has a good villain but cheap production values. QOS has very good production values, but a very weak villain. I could go on, but somewhere between those two is a very solid revenge film for Bond. Just kind of an odd coincidence that they both happen to be the sophomore efforts of an actor set in South America. And both preceded a notable hiatus for Bond films because of MGM woes, albeit Craig returned but Dalton didn't want to commit.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited October 2019 Posts: 6,791
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    I used to rank LTK and QOS pretty highly on my Bond list, but over the years they've gone down because I've begun to enjoy them less. I still admire parts of them greatly, and Dalton and Craig are fantastic. Funnily, whatever flaws they have happens to be strengths the other has. LTK has a good villain but cheap production values. QOS has very good production values, but a very weak villain. I could go on, but somewhere between those two is a very solid revenge film for Bond. Just kind of an odd coincidence that they both happen to be the sophomore efforts of an actor set in South America. And both preceded a notable hiatus for Bond films because of MGM woes, albeit Craig returned but Dalton didn't want to commit.

    I would agree with this. At least partly. LTK remains one of my favourites but where it used to battle with TLD for my favourite Dalton entry, ergo my favourite Bond film, it clearly loses that battle now.

    LTK still has an excellent plot, great villains and fantastic stunts, but indeed the production values are lacking. For the first part at least. When the action moves to Isthmus I feel the sets and the cinematography are stronger again.

    Then again, Bond in the US has never really worked for me. It always feels cheap.
  • TroyTroy
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    M_Balje wrote: »
    Thunderball.

    @-) :( :-O
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I don't know what Balje's reasoning is, but personally, I do find Thunderball mind numbingly tediousto sit through at times. Certainly not above criticism, no film should be.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Sanchez in LTK and every film after MR are less Bondian ? Have u seen OP !?!?!?!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited October 2019 Posts: 6,791
    Funnily enough, all the films that had their soundtrack reissued in 2003 are the ones that are truly Bondian to me. The others feel less Bondian, though in some cases that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

    The list of soundtrack reissues in 2003:
    DN, FRWL, GF, TB, YOLT, OHMSS, DAF, LALD, TMWTGG, TSWLM, MR, FYEO, OP , AVTAK, TLD and GE.

    Not included or not yet in existence were:
    NSNA, LTK, TND, TWINE, DAD, CR, QOS, SF and SP.

    Clearly I associate ‘Bondian’ with the more old-school and traditional Bond film.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    GE seems to be the oddball in that group.

    Absolutely, though it did deliberately return to a more traditional style after the six year hiatus and LTK’s poor box office results. Maybe that’s why it feels like the last traditional Bond film, though I agree that might as well be TLD.
  • GenoGeno
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    A View to a Kill, in terms of lacking any of kind of energy or flair in its locations, action, editing, or photography.

    At least John Barry and Duran Duran were there to fight the good fight.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
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    Geno wrote: »
    A View to a Kill, in terms of lacking any of kind of energy or flair in its locations, action, editing, or photography.

    At least John Barry and Duran Duran were there to fight the good fight.
    I’ve got to agree with you on that one.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I actually think you could throw LALD up there to be honest. While the theme song is iconic and I do enjoy the film, it's actually quite lacking on the "Bondian" front if you think about it.

    You could argue that the producers went too far away from a "typical" Bond picture. After OHMSS and so closely tying it to Connery's Bond. LALD was a purposeful attempt to distance Moore's Bond from Connery's. No Tuxedo, No Bond in the PTS, no Martini's, This Bond smokes cigars not cigarettes. Bond doesn't really flinch when the hotel clerk says "Mrs. Bond has booked the bungalow." You would think some emotion might bubble up.

  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Regarding the Craig films, it was pretty obvious to me by Casino Royale and confirmed by Quantum of Solace that the new beginning would take pretty full advantage of the reboot. Meaning every box wouldn't be ticked, everything wouldn't be out on the table as indicated by the absence of Moneypenny and Q. At the same time their eventual return was assured.

    So the filmmakers would rebuild their own Bond formula over time. Give the context they weren't able to in 1962 for the staples served straight up for many years as automatic wink-wink nudge-nudge regularity. Great fun, sure, but without any real understanding of the character. So Casino Royale established some meaning to the gunbarrel. Introduced Mathis for the first time. Vodka martini. The car chase. Getting captured by the villain. Torture. The sacrificial lamb, twice over and for all time. Later films, Moneypenny and Q. Outright gadgets. The warrior henchman. The global plot. Hopefully the warrior villain at some point.

    As far as any of the Craig Bond films being the LEAST Bond films, I get the point. Though my observation would be the contrast between those films focusing the most on Bond while being criticized as the least.

    So I'm enjoying this second Golden Age of Bond and the shifting focus alongside the familiar staples. What a great time to be a Bond fan.

    Least Bond film: Casino Royale 1967.

  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited October 2019 Posts: 4,554
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    LALD is full of great Bond moment's, the film is awesome

    Yes it is, but you have to admit: it contains few if any of the "Bondian tropes" that had been established up to that point...or had been used since. It's not a typical Bond film at all. Not even the briefing is normal. Nor is the theme song. It would be twelve years before another rock band would do a Bond song again.

    Make no mistake: LALD broke the mold completely.

    But let's not confuse "feels least like a Bond film" with "bad Bond film."
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    SKYfal & SPECTRE in which Arnold Terminator Schwarzenegger I mean Craig is doing his pretenious lets drop a poem in the movie to give it depth while fghting a cleary presient and a Apocalyse Now wannabee before finding out he has a halfbrother who is the cause of its pain. Neither of which feels like a 007 movie but more an attempt to be oscar bait. A good thing that Ethan Hunt does the 007 vibe much better and lets it also be personal.
  • QQ7QQ7 Croatia
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    Both Dalton movies definitely.

    Followed by DAF and AVTAK.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    edited October 2019 Posts: 3,985
    QQ7 wrote: »
    Both Dalton movies definitely.

    Followed by DAF and AVTAK.

    I wouldn't have thought you could get any more Bondian than TLD...it's even partly based on a Fleming short story.

    I can understand LTK, but TLD?

    Strange choice....
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Regarding the Craig films, it was pretty obvious to me by Casino Royale and confirmed by Quantum of Solace that the new beginning would take pretty full advantage of the reboot. Meaning every box wouldn't be ticked, everything wouldn't be out on the table as indicated by the absence of Moneypenny and Q. At the same time their eventual return was assured.

    So the filmmakers would rebuild their own Bond formula over time. Give the context they weren't able to in 1962 for the staples served straight up for many years as automatic wink-wink nudge-nudge regularity. Great fun, sure, but without any real understanding of the character. So Casino Royale established some meaning to the gunbarrel. Introduced Mathis for the first time. Vodka martini. The car chase. Getting captured by the villain. Torture. The sacrificial lamb, twice over and for all time. Later films, Moneypenny and Q. Outright gadgets. The warrior henchman. The global plot. Hopefully the warrior villain at some point.

    As far as any of the Craig Bond films being the LEAST Bond films, I get the point. Though my observation would be the contrast between those films focusing the most on Bond while being criticized as the least.

    So I'm enjoying this second Golden Age of Bond and the shifting focus alongside the familiar staples. What a great time to be a Bond fan.

    Least Bond film: Casino Royale 1967.

    I don’t even want that piece of crap mentioned in this thread,not even a Bond film .
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
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    Quantum of Solace is the least Bond feeling film in the franchise, IMO. Kicking off with the lack of a Gunbarrel at the beginning doesn't help. Despite these things, I do still enjoy the film. I've seen Die Another Day and Moonraker mentioned, but they still feel like Bond films despite their stupidity.
  • Agent_47Agent_47 Canada
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    Octopussy wrote: »
    Quantum of Solace is the least Bond feeling film in the franchise, IMO. Kicking off with the lack of a Gunbarrel at the beginning doesn't help. Despite these things, I do still enjoy the film. I've seen Die Another Day and Moonraker mentioned, but they still feel like Bond films despite their stupidity.

    This.

    Quantum, despite being a solid movie, never really felt like it belonged.
  • DrClatterhandDrClatterhand United Kingdom
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    Dire 'Nother Day for me. That abominable CGI tsunami sequence is everything Bond isn't. The franchise built a reputation on real stunt work and great use of sets. The invisible car too. It felt like a xXx film with a character called James Bond in it. My hatred of that film burns with the ferocity of a billion suns.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,677
    DrClatterhand wrote: »
    Dire 'Nother Day for me. That abominable CGI tsunami sequence is everything Bond isn't. The franchise built a reputation on real stunt work and great use of sets. The invisible car too. It felt like a xXx film with a character called James Bond in it. My hatred of that film burns with the ferocity of a billion suns.

    Couldn't agree more. DUD is an abomination.
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