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My brother's mate works with Kleinman so i'm kind of biased for him to continue!
But you're right, i think some new blood is needed across the board for this new era.
I do think Kleinman can do something fresh and new, like he did with CR! I remember being a bit disappointed with Binder when he didn't come up with fresh ideas for Daltons debut ( though I still like parts of it!)
Yep, Binder was way past his best by the time Dalton came along. Daylights should have had someone new. I remember how impressive and fresh the GE titles seemed at the time.
Totally agree, Binder's last two are a bit sad really, with a gun firing into a puddle and laying two gambling chips onto a casino table so it says '007'. Oh dear.
If Kleinman does decide he's done, then NTTD was far from a bad way to end it, full of lovely stuff- I loved the guns DNA helix: it was nicely funny! I think CR and Skyfall are possibly his best, although obviously GoldenEye was great and still looks fantastic today.
Yeh, you're probably right mate, though I still love all his work! GE titles were the only good thing abut that film! And I really loved what MK12 did on QOS. There are some great titles designers out there. I particularly liked the ones for Finchers 'The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo'
LOL. I never thought it that way, but you're right.
The one thing I *still* miss about Binder is his insistence that the title appear at the same time the song mentions the title. (He did this for FYEO, if I recall correctly.)
The songs these days take forever getting to the title!
I think there were calls for Binder to be replaced by other production members , but I think it was Cubby who insisted he stay on! Maybe not one of Cubbys best decisions!!
It's hard to say where more time on the script would have ended up; I guess with a more fleshed-out script, but I don't think the script is actually all that bad. It's full of themes and has something to say; I guess maybe the problem is it doesn't really feel like it moves Bond's story on that much and feels like more of a coda to CR than a full sequel. I guess that's something would could have been addressed a bit more perhaps.
2008 QOS
2010 POAL
2012 RS
2014 THR
2016 SF
2018 SP
2020 NTTD
Yes, Haggis's time was spent mainly on the Sleep of the Dead script. EON accepted the script and then rang him the next day and said that they weren't going ahead with it. Marc Forster said he thought BB and MGW had second thoughts because they didn't like the ending where Bond left Vesper's daughter in a Romanian orphanage and walked away as if it was job done.
Haggis said that the rejection left him barely three months to write a new script. What Haggis delivered to EON literally an hour or two before the start of the writers' strike was a first draft - or, at least, the first draft that'd been presented to EON. Compare that to the months that were spent on SP and the multiple drafts that it went through. I saw some comment once which claimed that parts of Haggis's QOS script were little more than an outline. That might be true, as the guy who played Slate said that the script for the hotel fight between him and Bond read simply 'A fight ensues' and that what we see on screen was worked out on the set.
So, if the writer's strike hadn't happened, there'd've been several more drafts of the script and not much winging it. Would it have improved the film? Maybe. Would I take the risk of that and swap the QOS we did get? No. I love QOS. I may have said that once or twice before...
As much as I wanted this to be true, I think it's an overtly optimistic hypothesis. Maybe, maybe, maybe we would have had one more film between QOS and SF.
But hey, there's certainly some space between QOS and SF to write graphic novels depicting Bond's adventures, say POAL, RS and THR.
Then the writers' strike and other developments affected schedules for QOS and all the following films really.
Course this meant we had 3 films in the next 13 years. Wow I certainly don't wish Amazon to rush things but I would love to see a more regular cadence return to the films going forward.
I actually consider the Bloodstone and Goldeneye Reloaded video games as adventures in the QOS and SF gap. I know that 007 Legends tried to fill it out as well. Thankfully, most people don't take that game as canon. But yes, @Ludovico I would love some books or graphic novels during that gap, there is some great storytelling potential.
As for QOS and the writer's strike, I think that EON kept getting cold feet at a lot of the story ideas, throwing them out, needlessly. Within that short production time, they should have known better. The writer's strike just came around at the worst time for EON and QOS.
Besides, had Blofeld killed Bond's wife he would definitely mention that during his "author of all your pain" speech.
Bloodstone, I could see that fit into the series; we're never told the identity of the big bad-could easily be Blofeld.
I forgot it ends like that, yes that fits rather neatly.
Many fans have long championed Kathryn Bigelow—the first woman to win the Oscar for Best Director—for the 007 reins. In 2004, then Sony chief Amy Pascal publicly urged Bigelow to take on a Bond movie, citing her action chops from Point Break and Strange Days—yet Eon never pursued it seriously.
Now that Pascal is in creative charge might we see a female direct Bond?
For a second, lets think about Kathryn Bigelow directing Daniel Craig in CR in 2006? How might the film look and feel different?
Imagine: A Zero Dark Thirty-infused Bond, with Bigelow’s documentary grit, a tense, claustrophobic labyrinth and the emotional stakes of a Vesper-style tragedy but grounded in real-world geopolitics?
What if Kathryn Bigelow directed CR in 2006?
If Kathryn Bigelow directed CR, Craig would have a wicked noughties fringe.
M - "Do you think that taxpayers would like it Bond, if they knew that they were paying a secret agent to surf and pick up girls?"
James Bond - "Babes."
M - "I beg your pardon?"
James Bond - "The correct term is Babes, Ma'm."
M - "You know nothing. In fact, you know less than nothing. If you knew that you knew nothing, then that would be something, but you don't."
James Bond - "I caught my first tube today, Ma'm"
James Bond [shouts from the shore] - "The name's Bond, James Bond!"
Solange [paddling away] - "Who cares!"
Rene Mathis - "22 years. Man, Royale-les-Eaux has changed a lot during that time. The air got dirty and the sex got clean."
Felix Leiter - "I'm so hungry I could eat the ass end out of a dead rhino,"
Mathis - "Last time you had that feeling, I had to kill a guy, and I hate that... It looks bad on my report."
Leiter - "I've been on the job for over 20 years, and I fail to see what surfing has got to do with funding international terrorism. And on top of that, they got me babysitting some quarterback punk, named Johnny English or something"
Rene Mathis - "Monsieur Leiter... meet your new partner."
Leiter - "What?"
James Bond - "The names Punk, Quarterback Punk."
Le Chiffre - "Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true."
James Bond - "You crossed the line. People trusted you and they died. You gotta' go down."
LeChiffre - "I know James. I know you want me so bad it's like acid in your mouth. But, not this time"
James Bond - "You got a death wish. You want to ride to glory, fine. But, don't take Vesper with you. I'm begging you. Tell me where she is, and I walk away."
Le Chiffre - "It's basic dog psychology, if you scare them and get them peeing down their leg, they submit. But if you project weakness, that promotes violence, and that's how people get hurt."
Valenka - "Peace, through superior firepower."
James Bond - "Okay. I get it. This is where you tell me that locals rule, and that Limey snobs like me shouldn't be surfing the break, right?"
Le Chiffre [smiling] - "Nope."
Valenka - "That would be a waste of time..."
Le Chiffre - "We're just gonna whip your private parts!"
James Bond - "You're cold because all of the blood is running out of your body, Mr White. You're gonna be dead soon. I hope it was worth it."
Bond surfs!
Bond exits an aircraft at altitude (without a parachute!).
Bond befriends a beautiful and capable female US police officer with a heart of gold experiencing career challenges.
Bond foils cheating at the Daytona Racetrack in Florida.
Bond weathers the dangers of Detroit, Michigan.
A submarine.
Virtual reality leads to murder plus virtual office romance at MI6 that Bond must pursue. Virtually.
Bond is sent to shut down a group of former Special Forces operatives, ends up befriending them to work against still another threat.
Vampirism.
Plus some stuff happens at a casino.