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There could be extras, as someone said here, of the actual PTS Norway scene. Since the gun barrel ends in such an ominous fashion, and yet somehow Matera is the net track, this could have still been hidden from the public.
And definitely no need to read too much into Billie's song being at the end of the OST. It'll be in its usual place in the film.
There was some talk already confirming that the PTS occurred after the Matera sequence, right?
I say bring it on! While I can appreciate the short and sweet pre-title sequences, I also like the more bombastic ones and TWINE's has always been a personal favourite.
Didn't MGW say it was about 26 mins long?
This has to be spot on.
And that the Norway part would only be spoken in french.
Then water carries also an obvious dream like symbolism so cutting to adult Swann right after that horrific flashback when Safin tried to kill her, trapped under water in the frozen lake, could add to that memory a further nightmarish dreamy feeling.
I almost forgot about this detail and I love it. Am I wrong or we already have confirmation that Safin
I’m sure I read it somewhere. Too much time has passed
I'm not certain, I thought
Anyhow — great take on the water/dreamlike symbolism. Don't know if anyone here has seen it, but "Sin nombre" does a lot of cool stuff with water in its ending. Come to think of it, so does "Beasts of No Nations".
The water symbolism may also have significance to Bond as well.
What if this is a parallel to Vespers death in CR?
Perhaps she was pushed into the water by Safin, or the naval attack on the base destabilised the base and caused her to fall and be trapped in the water?
But unlike CR, this time Bond does manage to save the girl he loves and it serves as sort of a throwback, as well as resolution, to Vesper's death?
We know that this movie connects back to all of Craig's movies, like what if this is a homage to that?
Ooo, I love that! Thanks for sharing — totally gonna headcanon that now.
Ask the host @jameskingmovies on twitter. Probably intentionally broken links
Yeah it makes perfect sense and would be very cool.
Found it, the original article is from the WSJ and says that
I always pictured her mom taking care of Mathilde at their house in Norway.
[i]As COVID-19 cases surge and moviegoing remains rocky, Hollywood is examining the movie genres making money on the big screen. Already, Sony pushed back the release of “Venom: Let There Be Carnage” by a few weeks, and Paramount postponed “Clifford the Big Red Dog.” Questions still remain about plans for MGM’s James Bond sequel “No Time to Die,” Paramount’s “Top Gun: Maverick” and Disney and “Marvel’s “Eternals” — three big films that, for now, don’t have a backstop in immediate streaming availability. Studio insiders privately say they have two or three weeks before they need to make tough decisions about whether or not to delay major fall films. The prolonged sense of uncertainty has left theaters caught in the crossfire, with essentially zero bargaining power to prevent studios from delaying major movies or putting them directly on streaming platforms.[/i]
Seems like 50/50 at this point. The U.S. is getting hammered by Delta. In the coming weeks there could be bigger surges in places like LA and NYC but they will be much smaller due to the higher vax rates. Either way people will be very reluctant to go to the movies.
The only thing keeping me optimistic about the current date sticking is the fact that they've spent a lot of money on marketing at the Olympics and securing venues in Europe for the premiere.
If they delay again it's entirely possible we won't see the film for 1-2 years considering that's how long it will probably be before the kind of box office profits that Eon wants will be attainable again. Another delay likely will not be the last one.
The studios need to accept they are never going to get those profits with the current slate of films. They are chasing a ghost that isn't there.
Agreed but every statement by Eon seems to indicate they refuse to grasp this. Hopefully their expectations have adjusted in recent months but there is no evidence of this.
Suppose every day they don't delay it is a saving grace. Every dollar they spend, every venue they book for a premiere. Wish we'd just know.
Total bs 60,000 people can go to a concert in my town but I can't go to a movie.
I just wonder at what point can they simply not delay anymore? How much $$ has to be wasted before they decide to just cut their losses. Is there no defined metric and Eon can delay til 2023 when moviegoing is back to 2019 levels?
What I fail to understand is this:
MI6 HQ made the argument that interest expense has gotten to a point that they need ~1 billion to break even. Let's assume for a moment this is true (I disagree with their analysis but I'll put that aside).
If they are waiting until 2023 to get a billion, that's two more years of interest! Which will raise it even more! EON is being Sisyphus. Just let the boulder roll.
I could be wrong but I remember reading that the movie was not financed therefore no interest and they can sit on it as long as they want. If that is true, and again a big if, the only variable is all the $$ wasted on marketing and securing venues for the premiere events. How many more times can they afford to do that? At some point it just becomes a meme / joke to constantly see trailers saying "Bond is back" only to have it delayed one month before release. But general audiences probably do not care and will go see it whenever it comes out, even if it's in 2023. Eon knows this.
Another important aspect is the disastrous PR and implications for the industry / movie theater chains barely hanging on if they wait til late 2022 or 2023, despite plenty of other movies, albeit smaller ones, proceeding with release.
I wouldn't be surprised if rather than announce a new date 6 months from now that they probably won't even stick to, they just pull it off the calendars entirely and go radio silent til at least summer-fall 2022. Leave with a vague statement like "We are committed to releasing the film to a worldwide theatrical audience and will do so when conditions improve" or something along those lines. That's basically what they've said with previous delays, only this time no new date will accompany it.