No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    So much for that secret...................... and the startling reaction of the audience when M asks for 007.

    Much like the Eve as MP reveal towards the end of SF.

    I can't remember if I knew that one going in- I don't think I did. I don't remember being massively surprised by it, but I guess we're supposed to figure it out as we're watching it: the scene they have in the new MI6 when they're walking together and discussing whether to be a field agent or not is a massive pointer as it starts to play out like standard Bond/Penny banter.

    Whereas with Nomi I'm not sure why they've tried to keep a lid on it: saying she's a 00 but not giving us her number just makes it incredibly obvious (not to mention the foreign language trailers have simply stated it out loud! :) ). I guess it's just something they didn't want hijacking their promo campaign, maybe the plan is to make a second marketing push on it once the film is released and mention it more.

    I remember joining the forums back in 2011 by posting an article about a lot of the big players being cast in SF, with the rumor even then being that she was being cast as MP. It's not a huge deal but would've certainly made those final moments a little sweeter had they kept it a secret.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited November 2020 Posts: 4,405
    mtm wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    So much for that secret...................... and the startling reaction of the audience when M asks for 007.

    Much like the Eve as MP reveal towards the end of SF.

    I can't remember if I knew that one going in- I don't think I did. I don't remember being massively surprised by it, but I guess we're supposed to figure it out as we're watching it: the scene they have in the new MI6 when they're walking together and discussing whether to be a field agent or not is a massive pointer as it starts to play out like standard Bond/Penny banter.

    Whereas with Nomi I'm not sure why they've tried to keep a lid on it: saying she's a 00 but not giving us her number just makes it incredibly obvious (not to mention the foreign language trailers have simply stated it out loud! :) ). I guess it's just something they didn't want hijacking their promo campaign, maybe the plan is to make a second marketing push on it once the film is released and mention it more.

    Exactly the same for me re: Moneypenny in SF. Genuinely can't remember if I knew it going in (probably didn't) but not being that surprised by it either way.
  • Agent_Zero_OneAgent_Zero_One Ireland
    edited November 2020 Posts: 132
    I was completely blindsided by the reveal, but seeing as I was 12 when SF came out (and it was the first Bond film I saw in cinemas) I'm probably an exception to the rule. It was a great moment for me though.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mtm wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    So much for that secret...................... and the startling reaction of the audience when M asks for 007.

    Much like the Eve as MP reveal towards the end of SF.

    I can't remember if I knew that one going in- I don't think I did. I don't remember being massively surprised by it, but I guess we're supposed to figure it out as we're watching it: the scene they have in the new MI6 when they're walking together and discussing whether to be a field agent or not is a massive pointer as it starts to play out like standard Bond/Penny banter.

    Whereas with Nomi I'm not sure why they've tried to keep a lid on it: saying she's a 00 but not giving us her number just makes it incredibly obvious (not to mention the foreign language trailers have simply stated it out loud! :) ). I guess it's just something they didn't want hijacking their promo campaign, maybe the plan is to make a second marketing push on it once the film is released and mention it more.

    Exactly the same for me re: Moneypenny in SF. Genuinely can't remember if I knew it going in (probably didn't) but not being that surprised by it either way.

    Yeah I can't think. I guess there's a good chance I had read speculation about it, but in a film where a new Q has been introduced and suddenly Bond is flirting with a pretty lady in MI6 HQ, you are being prepared for the reveal. Especially when we have those 'maybe Mallory isn't such a bad chap after all' moments towards the end of the film- I think you're being prepared for the pieces all lining up before they slot into place.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited November 2020 Posts: 4,405
    "Don't cock it up" was the biggest M hint for me. Didn't expect Judi to die though.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    "Don't cock it up" was the biggest M hint for me. Didn't expect Judi to die though.

    I think someone spoilt that for me on the Tube one night, maybe the night it came out. Some middle aged lady saying "I couldn't believe they killed her!". She didn't say Judi's name but I'd had a thought she might die and was frankly pretty livid someone would talk about it in public.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Sounds like she really cocked it up
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    This does make me more than a little nervous about the Dr No thing.
    This character is Eve, she's not Moneypenny. Oh wait!
    He's Oberhouser, not Blofeld. Oh I see!
    Nomi is a 00, not 007. Yeah right!
    Safin is not Dr No...
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Harpers Bazaar mag dec 2020 with Lashana interview. I have edited out some 200 pages so it's just Lashanas article left and pictures of her

    PDF: https://docdro.id/YBSb61n
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    This does make me more than a little nervous about the Dr No thing.
    This character is Eve, she's not Moneypenny. Oh wait!
    He's Oberhouser, not Blofeld. Oh I see!
    Nomi is a 00, not 007. Yeah right!
    Safin is not Dr No...

    Agreed, except I’d be so into Safin being Dr. No. Controversial opinion?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Contraband wrote: »
    Book release 2021



    Fantastic!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    This does make me more than a little nervous about the Dr No thing.
    This character is Eve, she's not Moneypenny. Oh wait!
    He's Oberhouser, not Blofeld. Oh I see!
    Nomi is a 00, not 007. Yeah right!
    Safin is not Dr No...

    Has anyone denied it?
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Not exactly no, but it's all the poker face maybe/ maybe not stuff that always makes me suspicious as well.
    Having said that I suppose if they don't want to confirm he's Dr No they either do that or just lie about it.
    Although if they did confirm it we'd all have forgotten by the time NTTD cones out anyway!
  • edited November 2020 Posts: 12,382
    mtm wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    So much for that secret...................... and the startling reaction of the audience when M asks for 007.

    Much like the Eve as MP reveal towards the end of SF.

    I can't remember if I knew that one going in- I don't think I did. I don't remember being massively surprised by it, but I guess we're supposed to figure it out as we're watching it: the scene they have in the new MI6 when they're walking together and discussing whether to be a field agent or not is a massive pointer as it starts to play out like standard Bond/Penny banter.

    Whereas with Nomi I'm not sure why they've tried to keep a lid on it: saying she's a 00 but not giving us her number just makes it incredibly obvious (not to mention the foreign language trailers have simply stated it out loud! :) ). I guess it's just something they didn't want hijacking their promo campaign, maybe the plan is to make a second marketing push on it once the film is released and mention it more.

    I can’t remember if I knew either actually, but I remember there being a fuss on here about it because Harris went on some chatshow and the hosts spoilt it.

    And yeah, I think pick one or the other. Either keep it a secret for the shock factor, or don’t reveal she’s a 00 in the trailers. It’s been a pretty obvious twist for a while.

    Lynch looks great though. Not usually keen on the “Bond’s equal” Bond girls, because they’re usually just generic action heroes who inevitably still turn into damsels in distress. But this time it actually seems like we’re getting one who’s almost as suave and cool as Bond. I love how they’ve given her all the trappings (suits, Aston), she’s not just a bird in a catsuit with a gun like past “equals” have been. I think it’ll be a really fun dynamic.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Lynch looks great though. Not usually keen on the “Bond’s equal” Bond girls, because they’re usually just generic action heroes who inevitably still turn into damsels in distress. But this time it actually seems like we’re getting one who’s almost as suave and cool as Bond. I love how they’ve given her all the trappings (suits, Aston), she’s not just a bird in a catsuit with a gun like past “equals” have been. I think it’ll be a really fun dynamic.

    Yeah agreed. I know we can't have a spin off and it wouldn't really work (there's no point in having a character in Bond's world without Bond), but she's looking so supercool in this I think I probably would be interested in her having her own movie or series. Obviously it depends if she works well onscreen of course, but from what we've seen I can kind of imagine her becoming a bit of a style icon.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    New stills.. but no source. Bottom right, Swann firing handgun


  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Nice find @Contraband, love that shot of Madeleine. Glad to see she gets involved in the action, and they've kept the capabilities she has that they set up in Spectre :)
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited November 2020 Posts: 2,941
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Nice find @Contraband, love that shot of Madeleine. Glad to see she gets involved in the action, and they've kept the capabilities she has that they set up in Spectre :)

    @Denbigh Pretty cool stills.

    I'm gonna fix them size large
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    This Norway sequence gasp me so intrigued.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Madeleine looks pretty badass with a gun.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Madeleine looks pretty badass with a gun.
    +1

    I really love this outfit she wears for the Norway sequence and Safin's lair.
  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
    edited November 2020 Posts: 469
    Contraband wrote: »
    New stills.. but no source. Bottom right, Swann firing handgun


    Isolated image:

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    Interesting to note that she is wearing her final costume set of the brown shirt and white pants, even at such an 'early' stage of the film.

    I wonder if this means her and Bond manage to go through the wilderness together for a short period before she is taken to the lair - or that she is taken to the lair later? Lots of questions here.

    Also note that
    we get a new scene number 203 as well, with Safin present.

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    Scene 201 was where Bond spots a hiding place, with notes on Mathilde being present. Safin comes in almost immediately after. Is this where we see Safin take her away - or even reveal that it was Madeleine who lead Safin to them? Interesting, interesting, lots of new questions to tide us over this 6 month wait.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    More stills..

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  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
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    Contraband wrote: »
    More stills..

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    Still don't know the deal with the wind tunnel - we've seen M in it but still dont know where it is or how it fits into the story.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited November 2020 Posts: 4,405
    Walking through Qs lab early in the film? I thought I heard that the Valhalla wasn't featured much. Those shots are amazing @Contraband
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    This does make me more than a little nervous about the Dr No thing.
    This character is Eve, she's not Moneypenny. Oh wait!
    He's Oberhouser, not Blofeld. Oh I see!
    Nomi is a 00, not 007. Yeah right!
    Safin is not Dr No...

    Agreed, except I’d be so into Safin being Dr. No. Controversial opinion?

    Not at all. This needs to be stopped when the next Bond starts bringing back old characters. That’s a given at this point.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited November 2020 Posts: 2,061
    mtm wrote: »
    Looks like the Harper's Bazaar thing is spreading:

    https://www.radiotimes.com/news/film/2020-11-04/lashana-lynch-bond-007-no-time-to-die-news/
    No Time to Die’s Lashana Lynch confirms her character will replace James Bond as 007

    Slightly inflammatory headline, but technically correct I guess! :) They also don't pull a quote where she actually does confirm it though.

    As excited as I am for the film, and as interesting a plot device as it is, I’m dreading the clickbait articles and usual culture war arguing that will follow.

    Remember, no matter what happens, “James Bond will return”. Even if this does give the character a proper ending, and has Nomi replace him, they’re not going to stop making Bond films. EON aren’t thick, they know what they’re doing. They’ll just reboot with a new actor next time round.

    Interesting that Malek doesn’t deny he’s playing Dr No either. Personally, I hope that’s not true. I think bringing back Fleming’s recurring characters is fine, but rebooting one offs sets a dangerous prescedent (if it was successful then what’s to stop them going for a full remake of one of the 60s classics?).

    The Craig films have already set themselves apart as their own thing, an alternate take on the old legend. So, I suppose with that in mind I’d be okay with it, as a one off. But I hope it doesn’t lead to them thinking “lets remake Goldfinger” or anything like that.

    They probably will bring back Goldfinger at some point in the future. They did in the Dynamite Comics, and Richard Maibaum wanted to several times (OHMSS, DAF, OP). The average American politician is a real life Bond villain. There’s material bagging for Goldfinger to come back.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
    edited November 2020 Posts: 16,057
    Wow I never thought I'd see a reference to 007 Everything or Nothing in a Bond movie.
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  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Walking through Qs lab early in the film? I thought I heard that the Valhalla wasn't featured much. Those shots are amazing @Contraband

    Yeah those are pretty cool stills. Comes from the new Bond book I think
  • Posts: 290
    Contraband wrote: »
    New stills.. but no source. Bottom right, Swann firing handgun


    Isolated image:

    unknown.png

    Interesting to note that she is wearing her final costume set of the brown shirt and white pants, even at such an 'early' stage of the film.

    I wonder if this means her and Bond manage to go through the wilderness together for a short period before she is taken to the lair - or that she is taken to the lair later? Lots of questions here.

    Also note that
    we get a new scene number 203 as well, with Safin present.

    unknown.png

    Scene 201 was where Bond spots a hiding place, with notes on Mathilde being present. Safin comes in almost immediately after. Is this where we see Safin take her away - or even reveal that it was Madeleine who lead Safin to them? Interesting, interesting, lots of new questions to tide us over this 6 month wait.

    Does someone know the original source of this pics? The new book about Bond cars maybe?
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