No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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    mtm wrote: »
    I don't know if it is the same vaccine, there are several being developed at the same time. And I said the chances are looking up, it hasn't passed all of the tests yet; there's still a way to go. But here in the UK it is possible, if all goes well, that we may see it out there at the beginning of the year.
    It's the same vaccine from Trump's Operation Warp Speed's goal to produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective vaccines with the initial doses available by January 2021. This government initiative involved Pfizer which developed the vaccine with the German drugmaker BioNTech.
    mtm wrote: »
    And the narrative a week ago you'll remember was the President saying "on November 4th you won't hear about COVID again" so I think that's rather been discredited. Especially as we then heard about the Chief of Staff getting it :D With people who take it seriously in charge there would seem to be more hope than just a few days ago that a corner might be turned and allow this film to release.
    And had Pfizer not delayed this annoucement until after the election, we'd have all found out about these trials long before November 4th. I think the point Trump was making was that the virus would no longer be used as a political tug-of-war tool by the media. And you must also remember that Kamala Harris herself said that she wouldn't take a COVID vaccine just on Trump's say-so. I'm merely pointing out the open hypocrisy of suddenly claiming the vaccine, which came from Operation Warp Speed, is now in better hands when the "new admin" themselves did the most to bring the vaccines into disrepute.

    My other point is, I don't believe the "new admin" will want to relinquish its authoritarian control over people's lives, meaning we won't be seeing a fast roll-out of this vaccine. I think the roll-out could be more controlled and slower.

    With regards to the movie's release, I don't believe it's going to be as straightforward as you paint it. I don't think people will be hugging each other in the streets, singing Kumbaya and flocking to the cinemas anytime soon. We don't even know whether these black bloc demonstrators will be targeting cinemas in future, as they're still continuing to target restaurants after the election.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited November 2020 Posts: 4,278
    bondsum wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't know if it is the same vaccine, there are several being developed at the same time. And I said the chances are looking up, it hasn't passed all of the tests yet; there's still a way to go. But here in the UK it is possible, if all goes well, that we may see it out there at the beginning of the year.
    It's the same vaccine from Trump's Operation Warp Speed's goal to produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective vaccines with the initial doses available by January 2021. This government initiative involved Pfizer which developed the vaccine with the German drugmaker BioNTech.
    mtm wrote: »
    And the narrative a week ago you'll remember was the President saying "on November 4th you won't hear about COVID again" so I think that's rather been discredited. Especially as we then heard about the Chief of Staff getting it :D With people who take it seriously in charge there would seem to be more hope than just a few days ago that a corner might be turned and allow this film to release.
    And had Pfizer not delayed this annoucement until after the election, we'd have all found out about these trials long before November 4th. I think the point Trump was making was that the virus would no longer be used as a political tug-of-war tool by the media. And you must also remember that Kamala Harris herself said that she wouldn't take a COVID vaccine just on Trump's say-so. I'm merely pointing out the open hypocrisy of suddenly claiming the vaccine, which came from Operation Warp Speed, is now in better hands when the "new admin" themselves did the most to bring the vaccines into disrepute.

    My other point is, I don't believe the "new admin" will want to relinquish its authoritarian control over people's lives, meaning we won't be seeing a fast roll-out of this vaccine. I think the roll-out could be more controlled and slower.

    With regards to the movie's release, I don't believe it's going to be as straightforward as you paint it. I don't think people will be hugging each other in the streets, singing Kumbaya and flocking to the cinemas anytime soon. We don't even know whether these black bloc demonstrators will be targeting cinemas in future, as they're still continuing to target restaurants after the election.

    Scientists develop vaccines. Not presidents. And "Operation Warp Speed" was nothing more than a marketing tool--in fact, Pfizer was not part of Operation Warp Speed, at least not in accepting funding. The current administration has its head up its rear in terms of science and in terms of leadership. The testing disaster in the U.S. right now is proof positive. So, yes, the Biden presidency will no doubt be far more effective at getting vaccines out to everyone.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2020 Posts: 8,381
    bondsum wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't know if it is the same vaccine, there are several being developed at the same time. And I said the chances are looking up, it hasn't passed all of the tests yet; there's still a way to go. But here in the UK it is possible, if all goes well, that we may see it out there at the beginning of the year.
    It's the same vaccine from Trump's Operation Warp Speed's goal to produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective vaccines with the initial doses available by January 2021. This government initiative involved Pfizer which developed the vaccine with the German drugmaker BioNTech.

    Pfizer didn't join Warp Speed in as much they weren't funded by it as its competitors were- the German government mostly funded it. It has taken orders for the vaccine from Warp Speed, just as it has around the world. The UK Govt had ordered 40 million, Warp Speed 100 million.
    Warp Speed nor any other initiative would be banking on just one vaccine, no. There are many others under development.
    bondsum wrote: »
    And had Pfizer not delayed this annoucement until after the election, we'd have all found out about these trials long before November 4th. I think the point Trump was making was that the virus would no longer be used as a political tug-of-war tool by the media.

    They can only reveal things when they're ready to reveal, not everything is a conspiracy. You have to understand that allegations without any kind of proof or basis in anything beyond 'that makes us look bad' are not fact, and that goes for fraud or whatever else. Think about who is making the allegations, whether they can prove it, and what they stand to gain by them.
    Whatever point Trump was making was clearly wrong because here we are talking about it right now, and also an attempt to downplay its importance because his response was dreadful.
    bondsum wrote: »
    And you must also remember that Kamala Harris herself said that she wouldn't take a COVID vaccine just on Trump's say-so. I'm merely pointing out the open hypocrisy of suddenly claiming the vaccine, which came from Operation Warp Speed, is now in better hands when the "new admin" themselves did the most to bring the vaccines into disrepute.

    They brought attention on his mishandling of the response, yes. It's not hypocrisy to actually do a better job. Harris was talking about taking a potential vaccine which Trump would have rushed out before the election: she was talking about how he would seek to use it as a political election tool rather than for actual public safety. The Trump team's allegations about Pfizer intentionally denying them that win would seem to confirm what she was saying.
    You seem to be thinking that someone is saying this vaccine will definitely succeed - no-one is; it's just a hopeful sign but there's a way to go.
    bondsum wrote: »
    My other point is, I don't believe the "new admin" will want to relinquish its authoritarian control over people's lives

    Uh-huh. 8-|
    bondsum wrote: »
    With regards to the movie's release, I don't believe it's going to be as straightforward as you paint it. I don't think people will be hugging each other in the streets, singing Kumbaya and flocking to the cinemas anytime soon.

    You're reading something I didn't write. Go back and read it again.
    bondsum wrote: »
    We don't even know whether these black bloc demonstrators will be targeting cinemas in future, as they're still continuing to target restaurants after the election.

    I don't think conspiracy theories get us anywhere.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I've seen those bullion bars on ebay for a while now. They will be melted down and recast - ideal for smuggling.
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    I'm building parts of a Rolls Royce with mine
  • Regardless of conspiracy theories, number of vaccines, and the effectiveness of American presidencies, I think the simple reality here is that the film is not coming out in 2021 in theaters. If we see it next year, it will be via some sort of streaming site like Netflix. This is not me being a Debbie Downer, as I tend to be more of an optimist, but even with effective vaccines, the world will not suddenly go back to normal overnight.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I think the thing to keep in mind is that No Time to Die is not alone in its situation. Many films are supposed to come out next year, so we'll see what happens.

    I don't think we're gonna end up with a streaming service because as we've already seen, MGM would want a big cheque for that to be made possible, and neither Apple or Netflix want to pay that.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Bond Fans: It would be nice to have some affordable Bond collectibles for everyone to enjoy!
    Bond Co: Here are some literal gold bars for Bond fans.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I think the thing to keep in mind is that No Time to Die is not alone in its situation. Many films are supposed to come out next year, so we'll see what happens.

    I don't think we're gonna end up with a streaming service because as we've already seen, MGM would want a big cheque for that to be made possible, and neither Apple or Netflix want to pay that.

    Yeah I can't see it going streaming right now, I think it's more likely cinemas will open up in some way.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I think the thing to keep in mind is that No Time to Die is not alone in its situation. Many films are supposed to come out next year, so we'll see what happens.

    I don't think we're gonna end up with a streaming service because as we've already seen, MGM would want a big cheque for that to be made possible, and neither Apple or Netflix want to pay that.

    Yeah I can't see it going streaming right now, I think it's more likely cinemas will open up in some way.

    TBH it's hard for me to imagine theatres opening up, in such a way that NTTD can make it's money back, in the foreseeable future.

    There will be theatres open no doubt, but they're gonna have to get creative in some way with NTTD to make back their money.
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    As a big fan going ALL the way back to the beginning, and a fan of movies, I definitely hope to see NTTD in a theater. In fact, not merely in a theater, but an IMAX.

    As a person who also would like to be around to see Bond 26, etc., I hope they'll let me wear a HazMat suit, with a spaceman helmet for better visibility, and mega-filters -- and THAT's assuming that by the time the film gets released I get shot up with every Vaccine that's then out !!! Had I the $$$, I'd rent the theater, and have a super-duper nuclear cleaning crew go in ahead of time. Bring popcorn and beverage in vacuum sealed containers ! It would be so appropriate ! NTTD evokes, at the very least, Dr. No, so I'd be sitting there dressed like both Bond and Dr. Julius were in the climax !!! (Hoping for Bond's ending...ahem...boat, or no boat, and not that of the bad doctor)

    Oh, well. The big screen in the living room can be updated, right ? to one of those 8-footers, with a Big, Thumpin' sound system. It'll help me enjoy TENET, too. I missed out on seeing that one in a theater, and C Nolan's last few films definitely were made for Imax-in'. Not to mention getting a VR headset for an immersive experience.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited November 2020 Posts: 2,941
    Anyone here living in Zurich that can visit the new Omega flagstore with NTTD exhibition and take a bunch of photos? Some guy posted this on Insta: "visited the new #omega007 flagship Store in Zurich. Original Aston Martin scale prop, screen used motorbike, clapperboard and, obviously, many 007 watches"


    From the swipe: this is the closest we get to a new NTTD still. Haven't seen any smiling stills with Craig in the woods. And those cool grenades?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think they're mines from the DB5.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    mtm wrote: »
    I think they're mines from the DB5.

    Ah that's what it is..
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    And that portrait of Judi Dench with all the old ships in the background. Very cool indeed
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    And that portrait of Judi Dench with all the old ships in the background. Very cool indeed

    @MattiaDeVarti007 Pinewood set: Painting hanging in the corridor just outside M:s office

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    Yep. I recalled that, even from a spot. But I hadn't seen the old ships on the background
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Yep. I recalled that, even from a spot. But I hadn't seen the old ships on the background

    Ah, ok. Gotcha
  • StarkStark France
    edited November 2020 Posts: 139
    New Perrier publicity directed by Cary Fukunaga, don't know if that was posted before

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mscra6-OyiQ&feature=youtu.be
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Stark wrote: »
    New Perrier publicity directed by Cary Fukunaga, don't know if that was posted before

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mscra6-OyiQ&feature=youtu.be

    BTS


  • edited November 2020 Posts: 3,290
    TripAces wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't know if it is the same vaccine, there are several being developed at the same time. And I said the chances are looking up, it hasn't passed all of the tests yet; there's still a way to go. But here in the UK it is possible, if all goes well, that we may see it out there at the beginning of the year.
    It's the same vaccine from Trump's Operation Warp Speed's goal to produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective vaccines with the initial doses available by January 2021. This government initiative involved Pfizer which developed the vaccine with the German drugmaker BioNTech.
    mtm wrote: »
    And the narrative a week ago you'll remember was the President saying "on November 4th you won't hear about COVID again" so I think that's rather been discredited. Especially as we then heard about the Chief of Staff getting it :D With people who take it seriously in charge there would seem to be more hope than just a few days ago that a corner might be turned and allow this film to release.
    And had Pfizer not delayed this annoucement until after the election, we'd have all found out about these trials long before November 4th. I think the point Trump was making was that the virus would no longer be used as a political tug-of-war tool by the media. And you must also remember that Kamala Harris herself said that she wouldn't take a COVID vaccine just on Trump's say-so. I'm merely pointing out the open hypocrisy of suddenly claiming the vaccine, which came from Operation Warp Speed, is now in better hands when the "new admin" themselves did the most to bring the vaccines into disrepute.

    My other point is, I don't believe the "new admin" will want to relinquish its authoritarian control over people's lives, meaning we won't be seeing a fast roll-out of this vaccine. I think the roll-out could be more controlled and slower.

    With regards to the movie's release, I don't believe it's going to be as straightforward as you paint it. I don't think people will be hugging each other in the streets, singing Kumbaya and flocking to the cinemas anytime soon. We don't even know whether these black bloc demonstrators will be targeting cinemas in future, as they're still continuing to target restaurants after the election.

    Scientists develop vaccines. Not presidents. And "Operation Warp Speed" was nothing more than a marketing tool--in fact, Pfizer was not part of Operation Warp Speed, at least not in accepting funding. The current administration has its head up its rear in terms of science and in terms of leadership. The testing disaster in the U.S. right now is proof positive. So, yes, the Biden presidency will no doubt be far more effective at getting vaccines out to everyone.

    Look, I’ve worked for some of largest media conglomerates in the world, and it really pains me to say this but they’re now fundamentally and irreversibly broken. Presently, anything that has any political association with the current admin is almost impossible to prove, especially due to censorship and plausible deniability made by the corporate media and big tech oligarchs, unless it supports their own narrative. The CEO of Pfizer actually came out and said Trump had helped with the funding of the vaccine with Warp Speed through the $1.95 billion agreement made in the summer. It was Dr. Kathrin Jansen that denied any funding, which is what the partisan media and fact checkers are using to discredit the initiative. Currently, we’re under a huge disinformation campaign to dishonor anything Trump was involved in. Whether you’re for or against the current President, it can’t be denied that there’s something extremely nefarious going on and is far bigger than anything that could’ve been dreamt up by the writers of Tomorrow Never Dies.

    Next, they’ll be reporting that all the American billionaires didn’t get $434 billion richer during the pandemic and that you’re all sadly mistaken.

    You’ll also notice that I’m doing my utmost to remain objective and impartial with my comments, unlike the MSM. The only reason why I’ve brought the vaccine and “new admin” into the conversation (apart from @msm raising it) is due to the pandemic being highly politicized and affecting the release date of Bond 25. Sorry to pour cold water on your newfound optimism @msm, but the FDA has to first approve the vaccine before it can be made public, regardless of whatever Fauci might say to the contrary. That’s not forgetting the mass production of the vaccine and redistribution problems that will most likely follow closely behind. That’s also excluding the huge public backlash to the integratory of the US elections and its outcome. Then we have to factor in the potential backlash to Hollywood, also seen with the huge drop-off in sporting revenue. I should imagine all the big Hollywood execs are sweating bullets right now and if they’re not, they should be. The golden era of the Hollywood blockbuster might have already come to a screeching end. Had the Bond producers gotten their act together sooner, then Bond 25 would’ve been released in November 2019 and would most certainly have avoided this cinematic apocalypse. One thing I’m pretty certain of—No Time To Die will always be referred to as the “cursed Bond movie” right down to its unfortunate title choice.

    I’ll be back to this topic thread in March or April when this movie has been bumped forward a third or fourth time. Until then… Sayōnara.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    bondsum wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't know if it is the same vaccine, there are several being developed at the same time. And I said the chances are looking up, it hasn't passed all of the tests yet; there's still a way to go. But here in the UK it is possible, if all goes well, that we may see it out there at the beginning of the year.
    It's the same vaccine from Trump's Operation Warp Speed's goal to produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective vaccines with the initial doses available by January 2021. This government initiative involved Pfizer which developed the vaccine with the German drugmaker BioNTech.
    mtm wrote: »
    And the narrative a week ago you'll remember was the President saying "on November 4th you won't hear about COVID again" so I think that's rather been discredited. Especially as we then heard about the Chief of Staff getting it :D With people who take it seriously in charge there would seem to be more hope than just a few days ago that a corner might be turned and allow this film to release.
    And had Pfizer not delayed this annoucement until after the election, we'd have all found out about these trials long before November 4th. I think the point Trump was making was that the virus would no longer be used as a political tug-of-war tool by the media. And you must also remember that Kamala Harris herself said that she wouldn't take a COVID vaccine just on Trump's say-so. I'm merely pointing out the open hypocrisy of suddenly claiming the vaccine, which came from Operation Warp Speed, is now in better hands when the "new admin" themselves did the most to bring the vaccines into disrepute.

    My other point is, I don't believe the "new admin" will want to relinquish its authoritarian control over people's lives, meaning we won't be seeing a fast roll-out of this vaccine. I think the roll-out could be more controlled and slower.

    With regards to the movie's release, I don't believe it's going to be as straightforward as you paint it. I don't think people will be hugging each other in the streets, singing Kumbaya and flocking to the cinemas anytime soon. We don't even know whether these black bloc demonstrators will be targeting cinemas in future, as they're still continuing to target restaurants after the election.

    Scientists develop vaccines. Not presidents. And "Operation Warp Speed" was nothing more than a marketing tool--in fact, Pfizer was not part of Operation Warp Speed, at least not in accepting funding. The current administration has its head up its rear in terms of science and in terms of leadership. The testing disaster in the U.S. right now is proof positive. So, yes, the Biden presidency will no doubt be far more effective at getting vaccines out to everyone.

    Look, I’ve worked for some of largest media conglomerates in the world, and it really pains me to say this but they’re now fundamentally and irreversibly broken. Presently, anything that has any political association with the current admin is almost impossible to prove, especially due to censorship and plausible deniability made by the corporate media and big tech oligarchs, unless it supports their own narrative. The CEO of Pfizer actually came out and said Trump had helped with the funding of the vaccine with Warp Speed through the $1.95 billion agreement made in the summer. It was Dr. Kathrin Jansen that denied any funding, which is what the partisan media and fact checkers are using to discredit the initiative. Currently, we’re under a huge disinformation campaign to dishonor anything Trump was involved in. Whether you’re for or against the current President, it can’t be denied that there’s something extremely nefarious going on and is far bigger than anything that could’ve been dreamt up by the writers of Tomorrow Never Dies.

    Next, they’ll be reporting that all the American billionaires didn’t get $434 billion richer during the pandemic and that you’re all sadly mistaken.

    You’ll also notice that I’m doing my utmost to remain objective and impartial with my comments, unlike the MSM. The only reason why I’ve brought the vaccine and “new admin” into the conversation (apart from @msm raising it) is due to the pandemic being highly politicized and affecting the release date of Bond 25. Sorry to pour cold water on your newfound optimism, but the FDA has to first approve the vaccine before it can be made public, regardless of whatever Fauci might say to the contrary. That’s not forgetting the mass production of the vaccine and redistribution problems that will most likely follow closely behind. That’s also excluding the huge public backlash to the integratory of the US elections and its outcome. Then we have to factor in the potential backlash to Hollywood, also seen with the huge drop-off in sporting revenue. I should imagine all the big Hollywood execs are sweating bullets right now and if they’re not, they should be. The golden era of the Hollywood blockbuster might have already come to a screeching end. Had the Bond producers gotten their act together sooner, then Bond 25 would’ve been released in November 2019 and would most certainly have avoided this cinematic apocalypse. One thing I’m pretty certain of—No Time To Die will always be referred to as the “cursed Bond movie” right down to its unfortunate title choice.

    I’ll be back to this topic thread in March or April when this movie has been bumped forward a third or fourth time. Until then… Sayōnara.

    @bondsum Right on Brother...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2020 Posts: 8,381
    bondsum wrote: »
    Currently, we’re under a huge disinformation campaign to dishonor anything Trump was involved in.

    Not really, no; he does that himself. Remember in early October when he said 'they' had found lots of ballots with his name on them 'in a river'? His press secretary was asked several times to explain which river he meant and who found them, and she couldn't. Because it was a plain and simple lie. Just like the rest of it.
    Trump has direct access to talk to the people: if he has evidence of his claims there's nothing stopping him passing it on. He doesn't.
    Occasionally he does say something that's true, but that's just cry wolf syndrome- people are so used to him lying about everything that it's not really worth giving him much time. Sadly he preys on the gullible and the uninformed, but thankfully even Murdoch seems to have dumped him now.
    If you read CNN's take on the comments that Pfizer wasn't involved with Warp Speed you'll see that they point out how that's not entirely true and it did indeed play some part. But naturally that doesn't fit the 'evil conspiracy against Donald' story so we have to ignore it.
    bondsum wrote: »
    Sorry to pour cold water on your newfound optimism @msm, but the FDA has to first approve the vaccine before it can be made public, regardless of whatever Fauci might say to the contrary.

    Yes, that's what we're saying: please read posts before you respond to them (and it's also not strictly true: the FDA only matters in the US). But the idea that they have something to test at all is better than not, and Pfizer's findings already provide hope that COVID can be vaccinated against, which we didn't even know before this week. I said "the signs of a vaccine are suddenly looking up": I did not say that we will definitely all get vaccinated next week, which is what you seem to think I was saying.

    bondsum wrote: »
    I’ll be back to this topic thread in March or April when this movie has been bumped forward a third or fourth time. Until then… Sayōnara.

    How convenient to state you'll ignore people actually pointing out sense to you @bondsum ;)
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    bondsum wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't know if it is the same vaccine, there are several being developed at the same time. And I said the chances are looking up, it hasn't passed all of the tests yet; there's still a way to go. But here in the UK it is possible, if all goes well, that we may see it out there at the beginning of the year.
    It's the same vaccine from Trump's Operation Warp Speed's goal to produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective vaccines with the initial doses available by January 2021. This government initiative involved Pfizer which developed the vaccine with the German drugmaker BioNTech.
    mtm wrote: »
    And the narrative a week ago you'll remember was the President saying "on November 4th you won't hear about COVID again" so I think that's rather been discredited. Especially as we then heard about the Chief of Staff getting it :D With people who take it seriously in charge there would seem to be more hope than just a few days ago that a corner might be turned and allow this film to release.
    And had Pfizer not delayed this annoucement until after the election, we'd have all found out about these trials long before November 4th. I think the point Trump was making was that the virus would no longer be used as a political tug-of-war tool by the media. And you must also remember that Kamala Harris herself said that she wouldn't take a COVID vaccine just on Trump's say-so. I'm merely pointing out the open hypocrisy of suddenly claiming the vaccine, which came from Operation Warp Speed, is now in better hands when the "new admin" themselves did the most to bring the vaccines into disrepute.

    My other point is, I don't believe the "new admin" will want to relinquish its authoritarian control over people's lives, meaning we won't be seeing a fast roll-out of this vaccine. I think the roll-out could be more controlled and slower.

    With regards to the movie's release, I don't believe it's going to be as straightforward as you paint it. I don't think people will be hugging each other in the streets, singing Kumbaya and flocking to the cinemas anytime soon. We don't even know whether these black bloc demonstrators will be targeting cinemas in future, as they're still continuing to target restaurants after the election.

    Scientists develop vaccines. Not presidents. And "Operation Warp Speed" was nothing more than a marketing tool--in fact, Pfizer was not part of Operation Warp Speed, at least not in accepting funding. The current administration has its head up its rear in terms of science and in terms of leadership. The testing disaster in the U.S. right now is proof positive. So, yes, the Biden presidency will no doubt be far more effective at getting vaccines out to everyone.

    Look, I’ve worked for some of largest media conglomerates in the world, and it really pains me to say this but they’re now fundamentally and irreversibly broken. Presently, anything that has any political association with the current admin is almost impossible to prove, especially due to censorship and plausible deniability made by the corporate media and big tech oligarchs, unless it supports their own narrative. The CEO of Pfizer actually came out and said Trump had helped with the funding of the vaccine with Warp Speed through the $1.95 billion agreement made in the summer. It was Dr. Kathrin Jansen that denied any funding, which is what the partisan media and fact checkers are using to discredit the initiative. Currently, we’re under a huge disinformation campaign to dishonor anything Trump was involved in. Whether you’re for or against the current President, it can’t be denied that there’s something extremely nefarious going on and is far bigger than anything that could’ve been dreamt up by the writers of Tomorrow Never Dies.

    Next, they’ll be reporting that all the American billionaires didn’t get $434 billion richer during the pandemic and that you’re all sadly mistaken.

    You’ll also notice that I’m doing my utmost to remain objective and impartial with my comments, unlike the MSM. The only reason why I’ve brought the vaccine and “new admin” into the conversation (apart from @msm raising it) is due to the pandemic being highly politicized and affecting the release date of Bond 25. Sorry to pour cold water on your newfound optimism @msm, but the FDA has to first approve the vaccine before it can be made public, regardless of whatever Fauci might say to the contrary. That’s not forgetting the mass production of the vaccine and redistribution problems that will most likely follow closely behind. That’s also excluding the huge public backlash to the integratory of the US elections and its outcome. Then we have to factor in the potential backlash to Hollywood, also seen with the huge drop-off in sporting revenue. I should imagine all the big Hollywood execs are sweating bullets right now and if they’re not, they should be. The golden era of the Hollywood blockbuster might have already come to a screeching end. Had the Bond producers gotten their act together sooner, then Bond 25 would’ve been released in November 2019 and would most certainly have avoided this cinematic apocalypse. One thing I’m pretty certain of—No Time To Die will always be referred to as the “cursed Bond movie” right down to its unfortunate title choice.

    I’ll be back to this topic thread in March or April when this movie has been bumped forward a third or fourth time. Until then… Sayōnara.

    1. The Right's war with the msm began in 1973. That's when the WaPo dug and dug and dug and unearthed one of the most corrupt acts in American history. Bottom line, Republicans hate the msm because the msm calls them out on their BS. It's really that simple.
    2. "Currently, we’re under a huge disinformation campaign to dishonor anything Trump was involved in. Whether you’re for or against the current President, it can’t be denied that there’s something extremely nefarious going on..." It isn't disinformation. It's actually the other way around: the msm is fact checking the liar-in-chief. It started on day one, when Trump argued that he had the largest crowd for any inauguration. He was wrong. The media pointed it out. And away we go. I'm sorry, the nefariousness is happening within the Trump organization, and the only people who don't seem to realize it are the ones under Trump's spell.
    3. I can't blame EON for not releasing NTTD sooner.
    4. I agree: the film going experience won't be the same.



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    Yep, you can't escape the fact that it is Trump, himself, who takes the initiative to state things that are eventually proven untrue. To keep this kind of on topic, just take his comments about Connery as an example.
  • Tonight at 8:00 p.m. Paris time, Live with Olivier Schneider, Supervising Stunt Coordinator of No Time To Die.
    Live on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/c/Planète007live/featured
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    Tonight at 8:00 p.m. Paris time, Live with Olivier Schneider, Supervising Stunt Coordinator of No Time To Die.
    Live on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/c/Planète007live/featured
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    Nothing very interesting unfortunately...
  • I imagine this thread will reach 1000 pages before NTTD comes out at this rate. 😆🙁
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