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Gunbarrel music ranking game

mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
edited 3:13am in Music Posts: 7,128
(At my request, for the sake of order, this thread was split from the "Detailed gunbarrel music guide + Gunbarrel music ranking game" thread. The gunbarrel music guide thread can be found here).

ORIGINAL POST:

A question:

Would anybody be up for a ranking game, like the ones @GoldenGun does, focused on the gunbarrel music of the films?

(The film scores already had a ranking game, and personally I'm not that interested in ranking the songs).

The fascination for me stems from the fact that, for the most part, we're talking about the same piece of music, with only the arrangement changing. Would anyone be interested?

If we had, say, 10 people submit votes, that could make for an interesting game and discussion.

The resources you need to make a decision are all on the first post of this thread in this link:
[Click here]

RESULTS:

The results of the game are in this post (SPOILERS!):
[Click here]
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Comments

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,664
    I'm up for it.
  • Bond_ScoresBond_Scores UK
    Posts: 113
    mattjoes wrote: »
    A question:

    Would anybody be up for a ranking game, like the ones @GoldenGun does, focused on the gunbarrel music of the films?

    (The film scores already had a ranking game, and personally I'm not that interested in ranking the songs).

    The fascination for me stems from the fact that, for the most part, we're talking about the same piece of music, with only the arrangement changing. Would anyone be interested?

    If we had, say, 10 people submit votes, that could make for an interesting game and discussion.

    The resources you need to make a decision are all on the first post of this thread!

    I'm very much up for this! I was actually going to start a thread asking people for their top 3 gun barrels. This idea is better >:D<
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    edited November 2023 Posts: 2,612
    Good idea.

    Question:
    The gunbarrel is just scored with a sustained high G played on tremoloing violins. After it, You Know My Name begins to play.

    I guess the opening chords of YKMN count for CR while the gunbarrel is visible, or does only the high G count?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    So that's at least three people who would be up for it so far.

    marc wrote: »
    Good idea.

    Question:
    The gunbarrel is just scored with a sustained high G played on tremoloing violins. After it, You Know My Name begins to play.

    I guess the opening chords of YKMN count for CR while the gunbarrel is visible, or does only the high G count?
    Well, they count, considering they are heard over the footage of the gunbarrel. I didn't break them down when I wrote the above post, though, probably because they didn't catch my ear, since the only music that's truly unique to the sequence is the opening violin tremolo.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 4,562
    I' ve never seen this thread before. I mainly read your endnotes to each film and listened to some of your links. I don't know enough about music to understand alk the details but it is obvious that you made a fascinating, splendid job here @mattjoes . Thanks a lot for this study.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,926
    mattjoes wrote: »
    So that's at least three people who would be up for it so far.

    Count me in :-bd
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,467
    So basically we'll be ranking the gunbarrel music? I'd be up for that for sure.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,517
    I’d be interested too.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    Posts: 2,224
    I'm in for that as well. By this stage, you can play me the beginning of each gunbarrel and I can instantly recognize from which movie it is.
  • vzokvzok
    Posts: 4,046
    I'm in
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    This is a go. Busy at the moment but will provide more details later.
  • ringfire211ringfire211
    edited November 2023 Posts: 671
    FYEO is my personal favorite. Love Conti’s version the best!

    Cowbell! We need more cowbell!!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,664
    I'm also oddly partial to Kamen's. Feels distinctive and yet still Bond.

    I don't think there was a bad gunbarrel until the Craig era.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,517
    echo wrote: »
    I'm also oddly partial to Kamen's. Feels distinctive and yet still Bond.

    I don't think there was a bad gunbarrel until the Craig era.

    Eh I think Die Another Day’s was pretty ludicrous because of that bullet.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,926
    I'm not all that keen on Arnold messing with the format to be honest.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    edited May 6 Posts: 7,128
    Right, let's do this. We'll carry out the gunbarrel ranking game in this very same thread, for simplicity's sake. (The thread has been renamed accordingly.)

    I have updated the OP with some better links, and replaced a dead one. I've also improved certain descriptions of the gunbarrels. You can use that post as a reference guide to

    (detailed gunbarrel music guide now found here)

    ...create a list that contains a ranking of the gunbarrel music of the 25 James Bond films produced by EON Productions. Use the criteria of your choice. Here's a few suggestions:

    -Quality of arrangement
    -Originality of arrangement
    -Consistency of the gunbarrel music with the rest of the respective film score
    -Suitability of the gunbarrel music to the onscreen footage
    -Suitability of the gunbarrel music for the style and tone of the film
    -"Timelessness" of the gunbarrel music
    -Quality of composition (for gunbarrels that don't use the James Bond Theme)
    -Simple musical enjoyment

    Please send the list via private message to me within the next two weeks (just click on my username, and in the top right, click the message button). Deadline is November 25, 2023.

    (Please avoid posting the list here in order to preserve the surprises until after the game is concluded.)

    After November 25, I'll take your lists (and mine), create the unified ranking and reveal each gunbarrel from lowest ranked to highest ranked. Hopefully, that'll create an interesting discussion.

    Have fun and leave any questions you might have below this post!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,028
    November 25?! That's ages away! Bond 26 will be out before then.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited November 2023 Posts: 7,467
    So we're just rating the music, right? Not the actual gunbarrel images itself (design, walk, stance, iris opening, etc) ?

    For instance I like the TLD gunbarrel in its totality, but musicwise it isn't the most notable one...
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    So we're just rating the music, right? Not the actual gunbarrel images itself (design, walk, stance, iris opening, etc) ?

    For instance I like the TLD gunbarrel in its totality, but musicwise it isn't the most notable one...
    Correct, this is about rating the music, not the images.

    QBranch wrote: »
    November 25?! That's ages away! Bond 26 will be out before then.
    Yes, we're playing the long game here!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,664
    Thank you! Do you want simple rankings without comments?

    It's a tough task because the gunbarrel music, to me, is the most hopeful, anticipatory moment of any Bond film, even those that don't deliver...
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    echo wrote: »
    Thank you! Do you want simple rankings without comments?
    While you just need to send me the list, I encourage you to prepare the comments anyway, for the inevitable conversation that will happen in this thread after the game is concluded.

    echo wrote: »
    It's a tough task because the gunbarrel music, to me, is the most hopeful, anticipatory moment of any Bond film, even those that don't deliver...
    I had a hard time ranking them myself.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    goldenswissroyale wrote: »
    I' ve never seen this thread before. I mainly read your endnotes to each film and listened to some of your links. I don't know enough about music to understand alk the details but it is obvious that you made a fascinating, splendid job here @mattjoes . Thanks a lot for this study.

    You're welcome @goldenswissroyale!
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,476
    mtm wrote: »
    I'm not all that keen on Arnold messing with the format to be honest.

    Same. TBH, I really don't care for the music cutting to the concluding chords of the Bond theme after the gun is fired. I prefer the guitar/strings melody played for 4 bars as Barry usually had it.
    John Barry's traditional format works better, IMO than any other arrangement.
    This gunbarrel music ranking should prove ridiculously easy for me.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    Status update:

    I have received five lists so far. With my own, we have six. Four more people on this thread have manifested their interest in submitting lists.

    Deadline is November 25, so one week to go. Remember to send me your list if you haven't done so! And if you're just reading this for the first time, we could also use your list!

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  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    Deadline for the gunbarrel music ranking game is November 25.

    Three people who expressed interest in participating have yet to send their lists!
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,476
    Just sent my ranking. :D
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    Thank you!
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    edited November 2023 Posts: 16,476
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Thank you!

    Anyime.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    We have reached the expected 10 votes! If anyone else wants to join in on the fun, PM me your gunbarrel music ranking list until Saturday, November 25!
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    Ladies and gentlemen, we now enter the final phase of the gunbarrel music ranking game, which means the results will start to be revealed shortly. Stay tuned!
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