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Best of err British getting a debate going on this one!
Enda Kenny said he wanted no three party coalitions , with something about a wonky
third leg on a milking stool. Which I found funny as it's odd to see politicians paint themselves into
a corner like that, as given the state of Irish politics, a three ( maybe 4 ) party coalition, was on the
cards. Then just the other day out canvassing he called voters " whingers !", I can't see that going
down well with any voter. That's up there with G Brown's " That bigoted woman " statement. :))
But things are gonna get messy over the next few weeks, as no one has a clear mandate to form a Government. We could actually be facing another election soon! This was a party political broadcast on behalf of Mathis!!
Well, it is esoteric to those on the UK mainland no doubt but I find it interesting at least. Some others on here might too, so let's not ring the death knell on this thread just yet! ;)
You're assuming there that the Irish have an Armed Forces! :))
The top 5% of the wealthiest in all countries have seen their wealth increase !
Yes, that phrase came back to haunt Cameron and Osborne but at least they did get a mandate at the 2015 British General Election whereas Enda Kenny has been punished at the polls for making the ROI the fastest growing economy in Europe! Evidently, he didn't run a great election campaign either!
Governments lose them" , I also think a lot of independents were elected,
which I think adds to the over all thinking that people want a change from professional politicians. One of the things helping Trump in the Republican
race in the US.
I certainly wish you luck with it old chap.
It's surprising given the intertwined history that I would say there's barely anyone this side of the water who has a clue about Irish politics.
I myself know far more about French and German politics than Irish. Not to mention obviously being force fed the US circus.
Do Sinn Fein have some sort of presence in the south? After all their whole schtick is unifying all of Ireland so you'd think they'd want to force the hand of the Irish government to be more vociferous about the issue towards Westminster. Or now that they've got a bit of power in the north are they only obsessed like all politicians with hanging onto it?
Yes, Sinn Fein certainly do have a presence in the South and in fact their leader Gerry Adams gave up his West Belfast Westminster seat in order to contest the 2011 Irish General Election and he won a seat in Co. Louth. Sinn Fein have a strategy to have political representatives in both parts of the island of Ireland and although they made gains in this election it was still not enough as some had predicted.
By the way, isn't Ireland ruled by Brussels, since Ireland belongs (belonged) to the PIIGS states.
Empress Merkel did impose her Austerity politics on Ireland, didn't she?
Vote OUT everyone!!!
Yes, you certainly should follow it as it is fascinating and I guess we all have Irish blood somewhere... ;)
The fact that they are a republic does not impress me as a unionist of course.
you have to pay for everthing from prescriptions to a Doctors appointment. Yet you still
pay high taxes.
No improvement over the United Kingdom there then.
Also if low paid you get your prescriptions free. So I think The UK has a good
balance between social responsibility and wealth creation.
Yes, perhaps the Irish will rejoin us in the UK? They're certainly very welcome. :D
Well it seems that we're in very esteemed company:
Best not to tell Gerry Adams though! :D
never have left and today be like Scotland. With its own parliament, tax rasing powers
in fact as independent as you can get without leaving.
Same with America, if a few consessions had have been given, I'd say Britain could have
held onto America for another 100 years or so.
One big mistake I think Ireland did was to leave the Commonwealth, I think cutting all
links with the UK was a mistake. As most of Irelands exports goes to Britain, hence the
thinking that if the UK leaves the EU, Ireland may also have to leave as the UK is its main
All history but fun to think about what might have been.
Yes, good points there. It's fascinating to think "What if?..." in history if things had been done even just a little bit different!
Staying in the UK wouldn't have worked. Different people, different cultures, etc. For the record I think Ireland is far from perfect. The Catholic Church is still too influential (they have very strict abortion laws as I understand). However they've got the right sort of political system for a democracy.
Oh no, they have abortion in Ireland. It's just that there's a twelve month waiting list.
I agree that the Catholic Church is still too influential there but that too is changing with all of the child abuse scandals and paedophile priests.
We have re-elected our hopeless Tanaíste despite the fact that it was herself and her comrades that were responsible for taking health benefits away from people with disabilities.
We have given a huge amount of seats back to the former governing party that put the country into a state of economic decline and also given support to the other majority party which wanted to privatise a massive public utility.
I am quite young (in my mid 20's) and every friend I ever had growing up has left the country to find work. I imagine I won't be too far behind them.
It's very irritating that despite all the complaining the people of the country have dished out in the last five years, they still voted for the old cronies.
Despite that, there are rumours that quite a significant number of the population were inexplicably removed from the Live Register and when they turned up to vote they were told they couldn't.
terms, then move on to let some new blood in. It might help to keep them in the
Real world of ordinary people.
There's no such thing as a perfect political system, it seems.