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Is Connery really that untouchable? Plenty of people seem happy to say Craig is the best Bond since him but no one yet prepared to say hes actually better.
Until now.
Thats right people I think Dan may well be the best Bond of all!!
Sean was perfect in DN and FRWL and pretty close to perfect in GF. From TB on he started coasting and while still good in TB got progressively worse in YOLT and DAF. Furthermore fhe only plays Fleming's Bond for about 2 1/2 films. From when he arrives in Kentucky in GF he is more and more just Sean Connery not Bond.
In CR Dan gave us probably the best rendition of Fleming's Bond yet seen on film and he has maintained an astonishing level of consistency across 4 film. Despite them all being flawed to a greater or lesser degree he never waivers.
Dalton probably equalled him in Fleming terms in TLD but he didnt have the swagger and confidence of Dan and to be a successful Bond you have to be able to toss off a one liner and there is no comparison between the delivery of 'salt corrosion' and 'That last hand nearly killed me'.
If you swap the scripts around and give Dan the first 4 films and Sean the 4 Craig era films this would not even be a debate.
A 5th film at the same level he has displayed so far should secure his legacy as best ever.
I've seen SC Bonds too many times and have tired of them - ok this is easier to admit having been a Moore newbie from TSWLM onwards. I don't need to have a Fleming Bond the way others do and pick up on with SC's films. I can see where Moores films got it all wrong the way I do for SC films do. FOR ME!!
DC, in CR, QOS and especially SP has really fired up my enthusiasm for the whole of Bond once more - something that took a knock with my personal disillusionment with SF and the ever dipping PB years.
I ache for that conclusion DC film that SP has set up so nicely
I like your comparison between Craig and Dalton but I think it's a bit unfair to compare one quote and conclude he can pull off the one liners better. Salt corrosion was a bad line to begin with, and Craig's had some clunky deliveries as well. I really like Dalton's 'don't you want to know why'? I can't imagine Craig saying this with as much menace.
Dalton convinces me he's a mi6 spy more than Craig. He's more sophisticated (Dalton's theatre background helps here), and I know this is the scripts but Craig's bond too often comes across as simply a brute, a muscle for hire. For example, can we imagine Craig's Bond ingratiating his way into Sanchez's trust?
I quite agree. I think my initial comment may have been taken more negatively than it was intended. For me DC is the best Bond and all 4 films are great in my opinion. I guess what I meant is that DC era isn't 10s across the board, but whatever is. Frankly I don't think CR will ever be topped, and to be honest I'm quite content if it never is. Ironically what I really like about SP is that it's a bit of lighter shade to the darks of the DC era. Umberto Eco once wrote that people like the Bond films because it's essentially like the old bedtime read, you want the same story but with some differences. I actually really like SP because it isn't Casino Royale. Just as I will happily sit and watch TND and then watch Moonraker. or OHMSS.Or FRWL. Or even ... Die Another Day! I love these movies.
Yeah it has plotholes, and I was there with everyone pointing them out and wishing for better scripting. But it's still such a good Bond film. I honestly like them all, and I'm the first to descry the like of Die Another Day. It's Bond ... James Bond and I've been a massive fan of his since the summer of 1997. I started this debate, and let's keep it going, and to those who have picked up on the negativity, sorry if I started that, let's not forget that we all like Bond, even Die Another Day is fun when you take it on its own terms, but let's keep the discussion going, because we're Bond fans -we make lists of our favourite Bonds, we think about whether Dalton or Craig was really more Fleming, we love and/or hate the Roger Moore sight gags - we're Bond fans.
Relics of the cold war =))
Which doesn't mean I dislike him, otherwise I would have to dislike Lazenby too which I certainly don't.
I had no expectations at all before Casino Royale. I was just glad that after 4 years there was a new Bond movie (having to endure the 6 year gap between LTK and GE was enough torture).
After CR I was walking on clouds for weeks, like I was after GE and TLD.
QOS strangely didn't disappoint me at all in 2008, I sure was near an epileptic fit after the PTS but Olga Kurylenko made good for that within 2 seconds and I left the cinema very excited and happy.
Skyfall on the other hand left me very disappointed, even more than TWINE did in 1999.
It was only with Skyfall that I became very critical of the current era and of Craig as an actor.
Today I rate QOS much lower than I would have in 2008 and Skyfall higher than I did in 2012.
I can't really talk about Spectre without spoiling so I just don't.
After 4 movies I consider this era as successful as the Brosnan, Dalton, Moore or Connery era.
SP has "saved" this era from being a disappointment for me.
I will never feel though that Craig is on the same level as Connery. That I find delusional, I can't put it more mildly. But don't be upset, it's just how I feel and I won't lie about it.
I really, really want a fifth movie with Craig now. If EON hasn't lost all its marbles, they will quickly take a new crew under contract, new director, new composer, new script-writers. Craig already is under contract if I'm not mistaken, so that shouldn't be a problem. And of course, keep M, Q, and Moneypenny!
We get worked up ...then we backtrack and calm down after our meds kick in.
Keep enjoying.
If you see strong criticism, that shows people are passionate just as much as those who give strong praise. As long as people's posts are well considered, which is mostly what I've seen here, I don't have a problem whether the post is positive or negative.
If this was a Facebook post, i'd 'like' it :)
I thought Lazenby did an excellent job. I think for so many years (even today) casual fans were unaware of the Hilary Bray dubbing that they lay the fault of those scenes to Lazenby. And when you look at other scenes imo he does a very fine job of portraying a worldly English gentlemen who can land a punch and woo a women. A much better Bond than Craig and Moore.
That being said, I'd say its stretching to rank him as "much better" than Craig and Moore, who were both pivotal to the survival of the Bond series.
Next you will be telling us Caroline Bliss was a better Moneypenny than Lois Maxwell or that Robert Brown is better than Bernard Lee. You need your head checked if you think Lazenby was a better Bond or Actor than Sean or Dan. BTW Bond is Scottish.
Comedy gold here! :))
Anyway, for me, the Daniel Craig era of James Bond is spectacularly entertaining! :D
He said Moore, not Connery.