Fix A Bond Film

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @SJK91, it was a nice nod to LALD.
  • Quantum of Solace.

    Have Bond get with Camille at the end.
    Remove Elvis as a henchman. He's completely useless.
    Have someone else sing the title theme (other than that I love it)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Quantum of Solace.

    Have Bond get with Camille at the end.
    Remove Elvis as a henchman. He's completely useless.
    Have someone else sing the title theme (other than that I love it)

    He's good at having his wig fall off and his pants blown off.

    As for Bond and Camille, another user stated a few days ago that the way they saw it, Bond and Camille kissed because they had a connection bound by revenge, not by lust. Sure, in a totally different experience, they could have been lovers and I'm sure Bond would have had her in bed, but they both wanted something incredibly bad, and nothing was going to stop it. It was more of a "thanks" kiss to me.
  • I would rewrite the scrpited for Die Another Day.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I would rewrite the scrpited for Die Another Day.

    Nice to see someone that has DAD ranked as their number one Bond film. That's rare around these parts.
  • Creasy47 wrote:
    As for Bond and Camille, another user stated a few days ago that the way they saw it, Bond and Camille kissed because they had a connection bound by revenge, not by lust.

    Possibly. It looked like it was Bond who leaned in for it though (obviously :P) and she had that awkward smile on her face before getting out of the car. Perhaps they'll cross paths again, who knows if they ever decide to pick up the Quantum thread again?

    Anyway to keep on topic, after more thought I'd say just remove Elvis from QoS.
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    TB: Cut 5-10 minutes of underwater scenes.
    SF: Give Severine more screen time. And maybe
    let her live, I liked her a lot
  • AliAli
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    Volante wrote:
    SF: Give Severine more screen time. And maybe
    let her live, I liked her a lot

    Agree.
    There was no reason Bond couldn't have disarmed/shot the goons and taken Silva before that.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Volante,
    the only reason I think Bond waited to take Silva's men out was because Silva still had a shot in his gun. After Silva fired and killed Severine, he was out of ammo. It's still a shame that Severine died; all of the publicity and whatnot seemed to build around her, and she's gone just as soon as she pops up in the movie.
  • <b>Film:</b> TB.

    <b>Fix:</b> The continuity errors, most notably the scene where Largo rips off Bond's blue mask, Bond grabs a black mask off a dead SPECTRE frogman, then amazingly his mask turns blue again..

    <b>How:</b> In this day and age, perhaps digital computer technology could fix it with making the mask black in the shots where it's supposed to be black.


    I agree about TB but I'd go further. For one I re-edit most of the film. It is clear in certain areas that there were meant to be other scenes, like one in which Bond and Leiter are in a boat driving away from the DIsco. The scene clearly implies they had just been aboard for a visit, much like the book. Further I would add the "Treasure Hunt" ruse from the book back into the movie, at least in a couple of lines, to make the whole situation more plausible and keep Bond guessing. At the meeting of the SPECTRE agents, I would put Blofeld at the table with them and use rear head shots and long shots to keep his identity hidden. I would also trim the underwater scenes. As great as they may have looked in 1965, they seem to weigh the movie down.
    Finally, and this is the number 1 fix, I would re-edit the scene where Bond and Leiter meet and Bond outs one of Largo's goons in the bathtub. Based on the clothes each character is wearing, this scene looks like it should come after Bond and Domino first meet, and would thus give some credibility to Bond and Felix recognizing each other at the Casino, even if they don't talk.



  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I agree with most of what has been suggested for TB. I would fix the blue screen work at the films climax as well as well as the skip-framing that was done to speed up the action on the exterior shots of the Disco.
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Volante,
    the only reason I think Bond waited to take Silva's men out was because Silva still had a shot in his gun. After Silva fired and killed Severine, he was out of ammo. It's still a shame that Severine died; all of the publicity and whatnot seemed to build around her, and she's gone just as soon as she pops up in the movie.

    Completely agree with all that, just wish there had been more. At least from the little we saw she was memorable.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 1,965
    The World is not Enough is my favorite Bond film and I loved it from beginning to end. The only one thing I would change is I would not have Zukovsky (Robbie Coltranes character) killed off. I liked the character of Zukovsky and would love to have seen his character live on and appear in other Bond films.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @fjdinardo, you and I both. I loved Zukovsky, and really hated his death. At least he saves Bond, but still.
  • My favorite is Goldfinger, but I think it's been done already in this thread, so I'll do my second favorite, Diamonds are Forever.

    1.) Directly mention Tracy a couple times. M's line about "plain, solid work" isn't enough.

    That's about all I can think of actually. I love the film too much to pick on it.
  • AliAli
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @Volante,
    the only reason I think Bond waited to take Silva's men out was because Silva still had a shot in his gun. After Silva fired and killed Severine, he was out of ammo. It's still a shame that Severine died; all of the publicity and whatnot seemed to build around her, and she's gone just as soon as she pops up in the movie.

    Not to mention that Bond promised to help her. It's the one moment in the film that stuck in the throat. The other Bonds...
    would have saved her and probably gotten off with her for a half time break.
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    Swanee whistle
    Pidgeon
    California girls
    Eric Serra
    Inflatable exploding floating bad guy
    "I don't know how to say goodbye"
    Countess Lisle
    Broadway Style "nobody does it better"
    The second hour of Die Another Day
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    My favorite is Goldfinger, but I think it's been done already in this thread, so I'll do my second favorite, Diamonds are Forever.

    1.) Directly mention Tracy a couple times. M's line about "plain, solid work" isn't enough.

    That's about all I can think of actually. I love the film too much to pick on it.

    For Diamonds are Forever I would have insisted that Sean report in shape and groomed.

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    I don't have one favorite. But if there would have been a car chase or some sort of action set piece right before Bond crashes his car in CR, it would have made it the perfect Bond movie (for me).
  • ''The Living Daylights'' (Not my all time favorite, but in my top ten)
    Just change the damn theme song. Ugh. The song would have maybe suited a campy Moore film, but not for a serious entry like this. I would have liked one of the songs by The Pretenders to have been used instead.
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    Zekidk wrote:
    I don't have one favorite. But if there would have been a car chase or some sort of action set piece right before Bond crashes his car in CR, it would have made it the perfect Bond movie (for me).

    In my opinion, there's already 3 action set pieces in CR, another would just be overkill.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
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    How in hell would I fix From Russia With Love? Ummmm...
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    How in hell would I fix From Russia With Love? Ummmm...

    Klebb in Venice cpuld be little more vicious, or intense, or something? Always makes me laugh; a little old lady with a pointy shoe trying to kick Bond to death.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 3,333
    I agree that FRWL is almost perfect, but I'd restore most the deleted or trimmed scenes. I really can't see why this cannot be done as they did it with Tania walking nude towards the bed, which was cut for cinema release but has since been restored for all DVD releases.

    The ones I'd include would be: 1) When Grant reveals the roll of film to Bond, his comment of "What a performance" has been removed - I'd reinstate this. 2) The famous fight between Grant and Bond has been cut to reduce the length of Grant's death by strangulation. The BBFC initially objected to the length and brutality of the whole sequence, but editor Peter Hunt convinced them to leave it intact, accepting only minor cuts to the final strangulation. - I'd show the whole thing intact.
    3) Klebb's death has been shorted, reducing the sight of her protracted suffering, and her death cries have been partially muted on the soundtrack - again... stick it back in. 4) Bond's remark to Tania of "What a performance" has been cut at the very end of the film, resulting in a particularly bad jump-cut on the print, which affects the soundtrack particularly badly - another good reason to reinstate the earlier comment between Grant and Bond.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Volante, I always get a great laugh out of that, too.

    @bondsum, I wasn't aware of the trimming of Grant's strangulation. I, too, would keep the full scene intact. Would be great.
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    Volante wrote:
    Zekidk wrote:
    I don't have one favorite. But if there would have been a car chase or some sort of action set piece right before Bond crashes his car in CR, it would have made it the perfect Bond movie (for me).

    In my opinion, there's already 3 action set pieces in CR, another would just be overkill.
    Personally, I don't find the sinking house in Venice to be an action setpiece with the kind of panache like we are used to. I just thought the Aston Martin was wasted.
  • Ditch the winking fish in LTK, recast Felix in TLD, take out the plane free falling in GE (just have Bond make it into the plane on the runway).

    Make Renard more threatening in TWINE and change the casino fight in SF (felt really jarring, would've fit in well in a Moore film but not in this one).
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 153
    Ditch the winking fish in LTK, recast Felix in TLD, take out the plane free falling in GE (just have Bond make it into the plane on the runway).

    Make Renard more threatening in TWINE and change the casino fight in SF (felt really jarring, would've fit in well in a Moore film but not in this one).

    Agree with you about Felix in TLD. He looks like a member of a New Wave Boy Band with his two CIA lady accomplices as backup dancers.

    GE saw the return of comic book Bond after 8 years of the Daltonator, so I guess we'll have to leave it as it is just to show the audience that Pierce is not Tim, and he can never be Tim. No one else can be Tim, just like how no Bond actor can fully emulate the others.

    One thing that made Renard fall short of being a classic Bond villain is his lack of emotions. He feels no pain, but I'm pretty sure he can belt out some emotions too.

    Skyfall's casino fight would be a lot cooler if it featured a more intense fist fighting ("Krav Maga, Kali and Jiu-Jitsu, 00-Agent, do you know it?!"), like the staircase fight in Casino Royale, and indeed, the fight against Slate in QoS. I'd like to retain Craig counting the thugs and his line to the big Chinese guy. It belongs in Skyfall because it's not just a Daniel Craig film; it's a James Bond film, and it mixed together the good elements that the six actors have contributed. The humor is obviously Roger Moore's, and I like it to be as it is.
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    One thing that made Renard fall short of being a classic Bond villain is his lack of emotions. He feels no pain, but I'm pretty sure he can belt out some emotions too.

    I felt that Renard had the same treatment as Bane in TDKR in the sense that you thought he was the major villain and then right at the end you see that they were just a puppet of the villain lady. Even with the mask on it was clear that Bane had feelings for Miranda / Talia Al'Ghul, same as Renard in that last shot when he was about to die...
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited January 2013 Posts: 6,115
    Zekidk wrote:
    I don't have one favorite. But if there would have been a car chase or some sort of action set piece right before Bond crashes his car in CR, it would have made it the perfect Bond movie (for me).

    That was part of the surprise. You think you're getting a car chase but you see a car crash. Similar to what happened to the BMW on the caviar dock in TWINE.
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