Which Villain's Plan Seems Most Plausible?

Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
edited August 2011 in Bond Movies Posts: 40,176
I recall reading an Entertainment Weekly a few years back, probably around the time CR debuted, and they had their own list from least plausible to most plausible involving the plans of some of the randomly selected Bond villains.

So now I ask you: from Dr. No to Hugo Drax to Franz Sanchez to Dominic Greene, which concocted scheme of the main Bond villains do you think would be most plausible?
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  • Posts: 4,813
    That's a good question! I'll have to think about it... I do this though: it ain't Moonraker, lol
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That's a good question! I'll have to think about it... I do this though: it ain't Moonraker, lol
    Haha, thanks for clearing that one up. I was waiting for that! Yes, definitely not Moonraker, nor Goldfinger, with the Fort Knox assault and whatnot. I think as time goes on, the plots became more and more plausible, to the point where something like CR and QoS could (and probably do) happen. And then you have films like LTK, as well, that are pretty plausible. If I had to choose, I would say LTK or CR: drug trafficking is obviously seen throughout the world still today, and a smart businessman who gambles with terrorist's money, respectively.
  • Posts: 4,813
    Yeah, right off the bat, CR does seem pretty plausible in real life- and the sort of thing that would require a government agent to slip in and take care of (infiltrate the game- make sure he loses, etc), but of course, since it's Bond, it's much more exciting than just that.

    I'd likely go with FRWL of FYEO for most plausible

    It's funny- while one of the most realistic films otherwise, OHMSS, actually has one of the LEAST plausible villain plots!
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    TMWTGG is pretty plausible.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I would say something more down-to-earth like what we see in

    CR
    FYEO
    FRWL
    LALD
    TMWTGG
    OP
    AVTAK
    TLD
    LTK
    QOS

    Really, come to think of it, many plans seem fairly achievable.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That they do. TMWTGG - aside from the caliber that Scaramanga uses - is pretty plausible. Let me turn it around and ask this, then: which plots do you think are not that plausible?
  • Posts: 1,856
    DN,YOLT,DAF,TSWLM,MR!!!!!,GE,TND,TWINE,DAD.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I forgot I asked that question, and I thought you were listing the most plausible, Virage. :-))
  • Posts: 102
    TWINE
    FRWL
    LTK
    QOS
    TND
  • edited August 2011 Posts: 22
    I feel like QOS is one of the most plausible.

    Aside from DAD, one thing you can give the recent Bond films is plausibility.
  • Posts: 1,856
    The thing with TWINE Is

    1st you lose a nuclear sub
    2nd there's no way to track it!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Live And Let Die and Licence To Kill top the list I think.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Yeah, LTK is definitely up there. Just a major drug kingpin, happens in the news all the time. Both of Craig's films were extremely plausible, too, and I think they will stay that way, if not progressing into more and more credibility.
  • Posts: 4,762
    The more low-key, basic villain plots are more plausible, found in From Russia with Love, Live and Let Die, The Man with the Golden Gun, For Your Eyes Only, License to Kill, Casino Royale, and Quantum of Solace.
  • Posts: 19,339
    AVTAK with Zorin flooding Silicon Valley using fault lines is actually not a bad idea and quite plausible when you think about it.Overall,daft as this may seem,there are more plausible plots than not with Bond.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Actually, FRWL, allthough told very plausible, really isn't. It depends far too much on the reaction of MI6 to be plausible.
    I agree on AVTAK, which in my mind is even an elegant plot to knock out the competition. As is LALD, allthough you'd wonder if you could produce so much drugs on such a small island toget the whole country addicted on free drugs.
    CR seems plausible, QoS too. GE, even with the satallites as a given, doesn't. Digitally breaking in in so many Banks? You can't do that with just one genius. TB, allthough a fantastic movie, isn't very plausible. TWINE neither, nor Goldfinger.
    DAD obviously is the most plausible: genetic alteration, conflict diamonds on a satallite to burn your way from North to South Korea. Yep, very plausible. They just needed a hollowed out vulcano to top it off.
  • DiscoVolanteDiscoVolante Stockholm, Sweden
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    As is LALD, allthough you'd wonder if you could produce so much drugs on such a small island toget the whole country addicted on free drugs.
    Indeed. Giving out free drugs to "drive the contestants mad and off the market" doesn't seem that plausible, at least not with his limited amount.

    I'll go with LTK as the most plausible.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    General Orlov's plan to trigger WWIII. It seems like something that could've happened in reality, giving OP a high amount of tension and suspense in its exciting 2nd half.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    TND would work, as well, given the exclusion of the big stealth ship - sounds phony to me, but they could exist in real life, I'm not sure. The concept works: attack one country, make another country take the blame, and you have an all out war.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    edited August 2011 Posts: 2,629
    Most plausible:

    FRWL: Lektor trap
    CR's: Le Chiffre Poker Tournament to refund "lost" customer's savings
    FYEO: ATAC recovery
    LTK: Stop a Central American drug lord.
    QOS: Prevent Greene from taking 60% of Bolivia's water
    OP: Detonate a nuclear bomb at the circus.

    Least plausible:

    MR: Restart humanity from space
    TSWLM: Restart humanity from underwater
    DAD: The satellite laser splitting Korea in half
    YOLT: The Giant Spaceship Eating Ships in Space and returning them to a hollowed out volcano
    DAF: The diamond nuclear satellite controlled from an oil rig
    AVTAK: 1. Kill entire staff, 2. ?, 3. Flood Silicon Valley, 4. Profits
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited August 2011 Posts: 28,694
    You've got me thinking again @Creasy. I'll post soon....Hmmmmm.... :-?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    You've got me thinking again @Creasy. I'll post soon....Hmmmmm.... :-?
    Please do! I'd honestly like to pull up a detailed outline of each film and just weigh the options as to what would be most plausible.
  • Posts: 4,762
    The Living Daylights has a fairly plausible plan as well. Georgi Koskov faking his defection in order to throw off suspicion, gaining weapons from Brad Whitaker to take over the KGB, Whitaker getting opium in return for selling weapons. Complicated, but plausible!
  • Posts: 2,341
    Obviously CR and LTK
    no world domination here just simple crooks.
    Most of Blofeld's schemes seem very implausible. (save for Thunderball and OHMSS)
  • Posts: 1,894
    In terms of plausibility, I'd say FRWL, FYEO, TLD, LTK, CR and QOS are top of the pile. They're fairly low-key, and they don't have far-reaching consequences.

    In terms of ingenuity, OP and TWINE take the cake. They're both pure genuis, and find far more original uses for nuclear devices than blowing up Washington or New York. But they're perhaps not as plausible as the other six.
  • Posts: 5,745
    Actually, FRWL, allthough told very plausible, really isn't. It depends far too much on the reaction of MI6 to be plausible.
    Have you not heard of the British scheme in WWII to trick Hitler using documents placed in a satchel on a dead body dumped into the ocean, that was all staged? AND IT WORKED? That's why the battle of Norway wasn't annihilated by a Nazi Panzer unit, because the papers provided intel that said an invasion would occur elsewhere.

    Citing that example, FRWL is VERY plausible.
  • edited March 2014 Posts: 12,828
    LTK, definetly, the drugs story is very plausible.

    another plausible film is FRWL, if you ignore spectre

    least plausible has to be moonraker. and TSWLM wasn't very plausible despite it being a great film.

    goldfinger i can't make up my mind on. detonating a bomb inside fort knox so you have the worlds largest gold supply, it seems plausible. But what about the consequences, even if goldfingers plan suceeded did he not think that with the goverement already investigating him that he'd be the prime suspect??? and would breaking into fort knox and fighting of goverment troops really be that easy?
  • LTK and LALD.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Actually, FRWL, allthough told very plausible, really isn't. It depends far too much on the reaction of MI6 to be plausible.
    Have you not heard of the British scheme in WWII to trick Hitler using documents placed in a satchel on a dead body dumped into the ocean, that was all staged? AND IT WORKED? That's why the battle of Norway wasn't annihilated by a Nazi Panzer unit, because the papers provided intel that said an invasion would occur elsewhere.

    Citing that example, FRWL is VERY plausible.
    Operation Mincemeat master minded by none other than Ian Fleming.
  • edited October 2011 Posts: 5,745
    Actually, FRWL, allthough told very plausible, really isn't. It depends far too much on the reaction of MI6 to be plausible.
    Have you not heard of the British scheme in WWII to trick Hitler using documents placed in a satchel on a dead body dumped into the ocean, that was all staged? AND IT WORKED? That's why the battle of Norway wasn't annihilated by a Nazi Panzer unit, because the papers provided intel that said an invasion would occur elsewhere.

    Citing that example, FRWL is VERY plausible.
    Operation Mincemeat master minded by none other than Ian Fleming.
    NUH UH! FORREALS?!!???!
    The thought was obvious in YOLT, with Bond playing dead and becoming a Japanese. Was he actually involved in the actual mission?
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