SPECTRE Trailer/TV Spot Thread - NEW TV Spots Page 117 - Final Trailer Page 106

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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2015 Posts: 23,883
    The trick is to do it in a way that seems fresh and not overtly derivative imho.

    Some are going to notice it right away, and I think it will bother them, but for others it will only be subconscious, and will actually help endear the film to them.

    That is a difficult thing to pull off.....some directors have done it far better than others. Martin Campbell for instance, and even Mendes himself (nearly every major scene in SF is an homage to something from the past, but I thought it was done very refreshingly).
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    edited September 2015 Posts: 30,190
    @mcdonbb I think my examples were specific and right on. The HOME ALONE business is an unintended (yet oddly accurate) joke. But I understand what you are saying.

    I did say I was pretty confident that SPECTRE would not be all pastiche, but that it is a trap to look out for (ala DIE ANOTHER DAY).
    But then why do you choose the barrel roll of the helicopter as a reference to homage to TMWTGG and not TWINE ? I don't think we'll have a whistling noise. And are the Oberhauser screens a tribute to TND' Carver's ?

    Because, obviously I would think, the barrel roll from THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN (aside from being first) is one of those iconic Bond moments, so much so that I find the shot/ stunt in question to be too glaring and reminiscent to be unintended as such. The scene you refer to in THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH has no widely accepted significance or resonance. If you can't aknowledge that, I have nothing to add and assume you're just being obstinate.

    As I said in my earlier post, the Oberhauser connection is not an homage or reference. I link it to OCTOPUSSY because that original story is where the character comes from.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I think my examples were specific and right on. The HOME ALONE business is an unintended (yet oddly accurate) joke. But I understand what you are saying.

    I did say I was pretty confident that SP would not be all pastiche, but that it is a trap to look out for (ala DIE ANOTHER DAY).
    But then why do you choose the barrel roll of the helicopter as a reference to homage to TMWTGG and not TWINE ? I don't think we'll have a whistling noise. And are the Oberhauser screens a tribute to TND' Carver's ?

    Because, obviously I would think, the barrel role from THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN (aside from being first) is one of those iconic Bond moments, so much so that I find the shot/ stunt in question to be too glaring and reminiscent to be unintended as such. The scene you refer to in THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH has no widely accepted significance or resonance. If you can't aknowledge that, I have nothing to add and assume you're just being obstinate.

    As I said in my earlier post, the Oberhauser connection is not an homage or reference. I link it to OCTOPUSSY because that original story is where the character comes from.

    I respect your opinion and expertise... I think my tone started off offensive.

    For that part I apologize.

    I also think all the responders made good points.

    I think we are all agreeing more than we think.


  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    I understand what you're saying.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited September 2015 Posts: 4,116
    ...and you as well. I should always drink coffee before I start trying to comprehend what I am reading.
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 2,873
    The second TV spot aired on ESPN during NFL Countdown 2 hours ago.

    Let the hype commence!
  • The "reference" to the world is not enough through a barrel roll is so vague that I do not consider it a reference
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe "I need a year off" Craig
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    antovolk wrote: »
    The second TV spot aired on ESPN during NFL Countdown 2 hours ago.

    Let the hype commence!

    When do you think the marketing machine will be running on full power? Early Oct?
  • Posts: 2,873
    antovolk wrote: »
    The second TV spot aired on ESPN during NFL Countdown 2 hours ago.

    Let the hype commence!

    When do you think the marketing machine will be running on full power? Early Oct?

    Even earlier, depending on when the final trailer lands. When it does, expect TV spots to go full steam ahead in all territories. Maybe even in the next couple weeks we should be seeing more spots.
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 12,948
    Well, this "superhenchman" table kick / Bond can't get his gun in time scene, could be taken straight from a Connery / Moore Bond movie, it's a "by the number" scene, and yet I'm sure most here love it (me included - If I exagerate, I consider this trailer gets Bond more than the whole of Skyfall :) ) So there's still life in the Bond genre, not sure we need to stray away from it...

    Not quite. In a Moore movie tension would have been turned down by comedic moments. The henchman would have been more buffoonish at some point. For Connery's time, he had the widest variety of henchmen I think (silent hunter like Grant, or brute like Oddjob). I don't think he had someone like Hinx (big and fast).
  • Posts: 117
    Has anyone seen the second TV spot? Is there any additional footage?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    This is a thread about trailers and tv spots with 95 pages. It stands to reason many have seen the new TV spot; and yes, there's some brief new footage but nothing spoilerish.
  • Posts: 117
    If you are from the U.S. then maybe, but not sure it has surfaced in the UK yet hence my question.
  • Posts: 117
    Is this TV spot the same one that was released in the UK on Friday?
  • Posts: 2,873
    Scamp wrote: »
    Is this TV spot the same one that was released in the UK on Friday?

    It was released online worldwide on Friday night. Had its first airing in the US today.

  • Posts: 117
    Thanks for clarifying, that makes more sense. I was sure someone had mentioned that two had been classified in the UK and wanted to make sure that I hadn't missed one.
  • Ludovico wrote: »
    Not quite. In a Moore movie tension would have been turned down by comedic moments. The henchman would have been more buffoonish at some point.
    How can you judge if this will or won't happen from a few seconds in the trailer ?
    And the TSWLM train fight with Jaws is rather straightforward, without any music.
    As for the comment about Hinx being not similar to the henchman in YOLT or OddJob or whatever, this does not change from the fact he definitely fits the superhenchman profile.

    Gee, it's hard to answer without spoilers :)
  • Posts: 2,873
    Scamp wrote: »
    Thanks for clarifying, that makes more sense. I was sure someone had mentioned that two had been classified in the UK and wanted to make sure that I hadn't missed one.

    No problem. The UK ones you refer to are short no new footage cinema (not TV, BBFC wouldn't classify TV spots) spots promoting the ticket release (one says September 7, the other say Tickets On Sale Now)
  • robcoperobcope St. Petersburg, FL
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    I saw it on ESPN earlier this morning as well (not sure during what show). Looks like it'll be getting shown on networks with mostly male viewers.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    was watching the 49ers and Vikings game on ESPN tonight - caught the SPECTRE TV spot twice....

    whoever said a couple months back that the producers/studio isn't doing enough to promote the film.. well.. we are still 2 months out from the film opening here stateside, and we are already getting flooded with TV spots... i don't watch a lot of TV, and this is already the 4th or 5th time i've seen the commercial in the past week.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 6,186
    HASEROT wrote: »
    was watching the 49ers and Vikings game on ESPN tonight - caught the SPECTRE TV spot twice....

    whoever said a couple months back that the producers/studio isn't doing enough to promote the film.. well.. we are still 2 months out from the film opening here stateside, and we are already getting flooded with TV spots... i don't watch a lot of TV, and this is already the 4th or 5th time i've seen the commercial in the past week.

    Haven't seen any on this side of the water yet. Makes sense to tackle the bigger demograph early, though. I'd say the UK/Ireland campaign will swing into gear in the next week to 10 days.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    It's on the official website:

    http://www.007.com/new-spectre-tv-spot/
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    I wait a bit longer with sharing this, but 2-3 weaks a go it be confirmd by Heineken in interview with them that this Monday 21 September Heineken wil release Spectre tv spot. In the same news it be confirmd Bond wil drink Wodka from Belvedere.

    Source: Heineken interview about James Bond and Heineken in Tomorrow Never Dies, Skyfall and Spectre.

    In the mean time 8 days a go there whas more news about Belvedere:

    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/style-stephanie-sigman-bevedere?t=&s=&id=03961
  • Posts: 2,873
    Event to watch out for - Sony are presenting at the Russian Film Expo on September 30th....maybe we'll have the final trailer out by then. Ideally :D
    http://www.filmpro.ru/materials/40533
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Not quite. In a Moore movie tension would have been turned down by comedic moments. The henchman would have been more buffoonish at some point.
    How can you judge if this will or won't happen from a few seconds in the trailer ?
    And the TSWLM train fight with Jaws is rather straightforward, without any music.
    As for the comment about Hinx being not similar to the henchman in YOLT or OddJob or whatever, this does not change from the fact he definitely fits the superhenchman profile.

    Gee, it's hard to answer without spoilers :)

    True. From what we can see, he sure does not look goofy like Jaws sometimes does.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I hate it when they flip an image with a face, it ruins the whole poster.
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    Yes, how can that happen? I mean, seriously. They should be able to avoid such a thing.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Then again, maybe the image wasn't flipped at all, and Dan just had too many beers before the shoot :))
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited September 2015 Posts: 4,116
    I don't get the gripe? Its just a fun ad with a lot of self parody.

    That's the most Mooreish I've ever seen Craig.
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