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I just think that they saw through him a while ago individually,and once he committed to pushing Sansa to kill Arya they had him.
And humiliated him in front of the army officers that hated him before killing him.
Basically 2 can play that game.
I just love getting to see a side of characters we've yet to catch. Bran calling him out on his bullshit (about betraying Ned/putting the knife to his throat/organizing Jon Arryn's death from the get go) was great.
Littlefinger is everywhere,especially good at it,so im not surprised they talked that way within the walls of Winterfell.
As for the Dani and John relationship, I think their romance is fine and very believable. There was an instant attraction between the two from the off and John's qualities as a person/man is something many women desire. He's not some simp, or a self-promoting arrogant show off. He's wise beyond his years, strives to do the right thing to his own personal detriment at times, will challenge Dany as and where needed, honest (this is critical for womenfolk) courageous and a fearless warrior and in Dany's eyes he's great with her "kids". The stories she's heard about him, what she's seen him do and the conversations they've had.....over a period of many months easily sells their relationship.
Agreed....perfect for the King of the North and the Queen of the South...i like the idea.
I feel like after last night's revelation of who Jon really is (albeit something we've known for a while), I think he's such a man of his word and a man of honor that he wouldn't contest Dany for the crown. I thought for sure he would've found out who he actually was this season, though.
In many ways this was old school GOT for me, intrigue, some twists and probably the best character interactions of this season.
I know it's got to go JRR Tolkien as it heads towards the finish line although can't help but think this could have done with being the full 10 episodes and given more room to breath.
The biggest worry is unless we've got back to back full length episodes with a super length finale they are left with little time to bring this all to a conclusion.
I guess we'll see in what has been said will be likely 18 months time.
So glad I don't live for this to return like some, much more excited about, Narco's Season 3, David Simon's Deuce and of course MInd Hunter, we've also got Tin Star that looks intriguing and I haven't even touched Stranger Things yet and of course the return of Westworld next year.
It's a good thing we've got such a rich vein of TV out there, without going into terrestrial output like Strike and the final series of Happy Valley likely next year.
I agree with many of the more common criticisms of S7, but with the end in sight and the storylines converging and no more material from the books to tantricly weave through, it was always going to happen. Considering in addition to that the general fatigue that shows acquire in general after 5+ seasons, I think it's doing really well for itself.
Questions I have
As for Tyrion's loyalties, he's still with Dany, I think he's just concerned about his position and relevancy as hand of the queen. In any case, it would make zero sense on his part to change sides because he has nothing to gain if he does. He didnt know about John pledging his allegiance to Dany and was surprised to only be hearing of it at dragon's pit. Also, with the way John acquits himself as a dominant and influential character Tyrion probably fears his counsel will go largely ignored going forward, especially as all his plans and advice has largely failed except for seemingly this one time where everyone believes hectapked Cersi round. It's onlyvs matter of time before they all find out that in reality he failed there too. In short, the capacity and weight of Tyrion input has been compromised with John now sleeping in Dany's bed and he knows this. He knows he cant afford anymore cockups, especially at this stage with the white walkers being an imminent threat.
I suppose it does make it a bit harder for Tyrion to go against her, knowing she's pregnant with his niece/nephew.
Also any guilt he has from the decision he made to kill his father, it resulted in two of Cersei children dying who Tyrion genuinely loved. Guilt is a powerful motive I would not discount anything
Or will Cersei's 'Hand' catch him?
Qyburn? Or do you mean The Mountain? Either way, I doubt she'll do anything about it. She should've known after her last display that he's likely not sticking around. I hope he makes it North and can redeem himself further.
More than that though I'd rather the traditional 10 episodes, 9 of roughly 60 and an extra long two-hour finale. ;)
Technically either of the two works out to be roughly the same. Id prefer what @Strong proposed above, in his last paragraph.