Jason Bourne (2002 - present)

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  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    I did a Bourne marathon yesterday. I couldn't get through Legacy, which is bizarre given that I've always enjoyed it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I've debated giving 'Legacy' another shot - haven't watched it since I saw it in theaters - but I recall the finale being dull, abrupt, and ending on a particularly poor CG note, so I typically opt not to waste my time with it. I doubt we'll ever get a sequel to it, anyway.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I watched it last week, as I was in need of more Bourne after my generally positive experience with Jason Bourne in the theatre.

    It went down reasonably well, but I really don't see it as a Bourne film. It has a different flavour to it and the pacing is different also. Somewhat like how NSNA is different from the EON entries.

    I've been enjoying Moby's new version of Extreme Ways which ends the latest film and thought I'd post it here. It's epic (especially mid to end). Quite a few folks stayed in their seats to enjoy it in the theatre.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I was going to be pretty upset if 'Extreme Ways' didn't feature in the film, particularly at the ending. Glad they had the sense to add it in again, it's Bourne's theme to me now.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @Creasy47 I'd be more upset if Newman didn't score Bond 25 than a Bourne without Extreme Ways. ;)
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Such an awesome tune. It's definitely a major Bourne staple by now.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Seeing the film in 3 days. Will stay during the end credits for the famous tune!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @DaltonCraig007, how about Newman as the composer for every movie from here on out? And to save time, they can just re-use his SP score for everything.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    I'm seeing Jason Bourne again later, and I'm still as pumped as I was the first time around.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy N.Ireland
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    Watched it last night, it was entertaining, I did enjoy it but have no desire to see it
    Again until it's on TV.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @DaltonCraig007, how about Newman as the composer for every movie from here on out? And to save time, they can just re-use his SP score for everything.

    Or they could just pinch a tune off one of Moby's old albums.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @DaltonCraig007, how about Newman as the composer for every movie from here on out? And to save time, they can just re-use his SP score for everything.

    It was bad enough when Hans Zimmer's scores sounded the same. :))
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    jake24 wrote: »
    I did a Bourne marathon yesterday. I couldn't get through Legacy, which is bizarre given that I've always enjoyed it.

    Same here. I never had a problem Legacy previously but having re-watched the original three Damon films prior to the release of Jason Bourne and enjoying Jason Bourne immensely I watched Legacy last night and didn't get into it either.

    It looks great on Blu Ray though. A very crisp picture and great sound.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Just saw it online. Quality was super good, audio iffy, read what happens on Wikipedia just to get a general idea because the plot was so confusing to me. Pretty boring movie honestly...
    No creativity... Super disappointed!

    Big Bourne fan and you make a movie about literally nothing? He literally got into a bunch of useless fights and flew from Greece to Vegas just to confront one guy?? Weak. I mean all of this to find out his Dad's involvement?

    Just doesn't make sense to me.
    The first few Bournes were so legendary, my favorite Bourne scene is that house sequence where he sets the toaster fire, lures the swat team in and it blows up while he escapes.

    I think Bourne had maybe 5 lines in the film too lol. Is anyone else disappointed? It literally felt like they were trying to make a quick buck?

    Maybe it's just me but I watched all the previous Bourne films before watching this and this felt bad. Kinda like Taken 2 and 3.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Saw it a second time tonight and enjoyed it even more this time around.
  • Big Bourne fan here. Looking forward to this one.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Saw it a second time tonight and enjoyed it even more this time around.
    Just saw it again and enjoyed it more this time as well. I noticed a few little things I missed on the first go around (difficult not to with shaky cam in effect). I wish there was a little more hand to hand combat and a little less running around/tailing each other, but it's still a great ride.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2016 Posts: 15,534
    Finally, the big day is here. 'Jason Bourne' has been released today in France, and I am going to go see the film in about 45 minutes. Really pumped up.
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    Finally, the big day is here. 'Jason Bourne' has been released today in France, and I am going to go see the film in about 45 minutes. Really pumped up.

    So? What did you think? :D
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Loved it! Non stop action from start to finish. I've been missing such wide-scope chase scenes, like the ones in Athens and in Las Vegas. Matt Damon is a total badass here, I really hope they'll greenlight a 5th Bourne film with him soon.
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 5,767
    You can say what you want about that film, but the Vegas part alone is worth the ticket.
    I didn´t notice non stop action from start to finish, but the idea of surveillance is used to utmost effect, blending plot element and visual style masterfully. By the way, if it wouldn´t fit a Bourne film like a glove, I would make fun of this film for ripping off the total surveillance idea from SP, but the way it is used it doesn´t really look like a rip-off, and frankly this film makes so much more out of it.
    As for those who despaired when a tv spot leaked a supposedly major plot point weeks before the release, it´s really not that major, other things in the film are much more of importance. I find it much more annoying that hardly any word of dialogue from the trailers was in the movie.
    As for Vincent Cassel, sure, it would have been possible to flesh him out more, perhaps even make him be Carlos the Jackal. But it wasn´t at all necessary for the story of the film, in fact as his character is he fits much better with the whole Bourne history so far.
    The whole story wasn´t very original, but it was by far not as lazy as some suggest it is.
    Can´t wait to watch it again!


    Just saw it online. Quality was super good, audio iffy, read what happens on Wikipedia just to get a general idea because the plot was so confusing to me. Pretty boring movie honestly...
    No creativity... Super disappointed!

    Big Bourne fan and you make a movie about literally nothing? He literally got into a bunch of useless fights and flew from Greece to Vegas just to confront one guy?? Weak. I mean all of this to find out his Dad's involvement?

    Just doesn't make sense to me.
    The first few Bournes were so legendary, my favorite Bourne scene is that house sequence where he sets the toaster fire, lures the swat team in and it blows up while he escapes.

    I think Bourne had maybe 5 lines in the film too lol. Is anyone else disappointed? It literally felt like they were trying to make a quick buck?

    Maybe it's just me but I watched all the previous Bourne films before watching this and this felt bad. Kinda like Taken 2 and 3.
    CASINOROYALE, shame on you for supporting illegal uploads!
    If you didn´t catch the plot I feel very sorry for you. At all, if you didn´t catch the plot, perhaps try first to understand the film, before you complain about lack of originality.
    The amount of Bourne´s talking fits the film perfectly IMO, so I wouldn´t know what there is to be disappointed about.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I loved the Vegas bit. Both times I saw the film I smirked at the opening intro shot with the Trump International Hotel bang in the middle of the frame.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    You can say what you want about that film, but the Vegas part alone is worth the ticket.
    I didn´t notice non stop action from start to finish, but the idea of surveillance is used to utmost effect, blending plot element and visual style masterfully. By the way, if it wouldn´t fit a Bourne film like a glove, I would make fun of this film for ripping off the total surveillance idea from SP, but the way it is used it doesn´t really look like a rip-off, and frankly this film makes so much more out of it.
    As for those who despaired when a tv spot leaked a supposedly major plot point weeks before the release, it´s really not that major, other things in the film are much more of importance. I find it much more annoying that hardly any word of dialogue from the trailers was in the movie.
    As for Vincent Cassel, sure, it would have been possible to flesh him out more, perhaps even make him be Carlos the Jackal. But it wasn´t at all necessary for the story of the film, in fact as his character is he fits much better with the whole Bourne history so far.
    The whole story wasn´t very original, but it was by far not as lazy as some suggest it is.
    Can´t wait to watch it again!


    Just saw it online. Quality was super good, audio iffy, read what happens on Wikipedia just to get a general idea because the plot was so confusing to me. Pretty boring movie honestly...
    No creativity... Super disappointed!

    Big Bourne fan and you make a movie about literally nothing? He literally got into a bunch of useless fights and flew from Greece to Vegas just to confront one guy?? Weak. I mean all of this to find out his Dad's involvement?

    Just doesn't make sense to me.
    The first few Bournes were so legendary, my favorite Bourne scene is that house sequence where he sets the toaster fire, lures the swat team in and it blows up while he escapes.

    I think Bourne had maybe 5 lines in the film too lol. Is anyone else disappointed? It literally felt like they were trying to make a quick buck?

    Maybe it's just me but I watched all the previous Bourne films before watching this and this felt bad. Kinda like Taken 2 and 3.
    CASINOROYALE, shame on you for supporting illegal uploads!
    If you didn´t catch the plot I feel very sorry for you. At all, if you didn´t catch the plot, perhaps try first to understand the film, before you complain about lack of originality.
    The amount of Bourne´s talking fits the film perfectly IMO, so I wouldn´t know what there is to be disappointed about.


    Not everyone can afford to pay $10 to see a movie , especially when you have tons and tons of bills and you're college aged... It didn't seem worth seeing in theaters honestly and I am a big Bourne fan.

    I read the books and saw every film when they came out. Visuals were stunning and loved the Vegas visuals.

    I just don't think you can top the first few films that came out. They had meaning and Bourne was actually on the run. So much suspense and the thrill of him almost getting caught every single time was great. This film was weird to me. The main goal was to bring him in. Not even to kill him.

    Except the CIA director or whoever it was had a secret team trying to kill him. Bourne easily took them out not even a challenge.

    Something just felt off during the film, like there wasn't much of a threat and it was one of the movies that are fun to watch on Netflix or rent but to go see in a theater.. Ehh..

    I'll admit I will only see films that I am super excited for like, suicide squad, bond films, the marvel films;etc.
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    Not everyone can afford to pay $10 to see a movie , especially when you have tons and tons of bills and you're college aged... It didn't seem worth seeing in theaters honestly and I am a big Bourne fan.
    That doesn´t change the fact that you´re supporting illegal activity, and that will never bring you anywhere near a life where you believe you can afford a ticket (because in the end it comes down to what you believe you can afford). You complain about lack of originality and making a quick buck, but in effect you do exactly that. Piracy leads to productions getting more controlled by bookkeepers and lawyers, which leads to more and more calculated productions. And, legal loophole or not, watching a film without paying is tantamount to stealing, believe it or not. You say you´re a massive Bourne fan. If you really want something, believe me, you´ll have the money for it. Basic economical law: Invest in the right things, and money will flow back more to you. And you can´t tell me you´re not spending 10 bucks or more on a weekend here and there.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    The issue is why is this available on the internet to begin with? It should be shut down immediately and anyone who allows it to be streamed should be severely penalized.
  • edited August 2016 Posts: 5,767
    @bondjames, I absolutely agree.


    I've been missing such wide-scope chase scenes, like the ones in Athens and in Las Vegas.
    I´m starting to realise that all the surveillance cam stuff gives the film a very free dimension of space and somehow reminds me of the wide-angle shots used so much and so much to my delight in most of the old Bond films.
    I find it also interesting that the film visually offers many impressions of free space, while it simultateously has massive restrictions of freedom as a major topic.
    Time to watch it again :-).

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    The second time it rocked even more.
    Funnily, while I always held that there was a distinctive visual difference between Bourne2+3 and QoS, this time the film in places reminded me of QoS. Especially the way the logo is projected to the walls in Vegas reminded me of Greene´s fundraiser, and some bits with Vincent Cassel fighting someone backstage reminded me of Bond fighting someone behind the stage at Bregenz.
    But it doesn´t bother me in the least. I hugely enjoyed the rich colours. I think it also makes a difference that this is the first Bourne film that is not set in the snowy season.
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    Not read any of the above few pages. Going to see this tonight. Will post my thoughts over the weekend.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 It was this or the priesthood.
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    With all the shaky cam, the 3D version of Bourne must be headache inducing.
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