Would you rather a Female Vocalist OR a Male Vocalist for the theme song?

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  • Posts: 2,248
    As long as it good, I don't care.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Good point. I like the idea of a mystery build and then a dramatic reveal, like DN but it has to serve the story. I honestly think Dalton's intro in a PTS was one of the best. But Craig in the shadows of the office was a strong one too.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    Posts: 3,393
    Appear in the PTS. There's never been a better time to use Bond's introduction in TSWLM and have him stepping in out of the night and the rain to save Viv Michel at the Dreamy Pines motel. 'He stood there so quiet and controlled and somehow with the same quality of deadliness as the others... He was good-looking in a dark, rather cruel way and a scar showed whitely down his left cheek. I quickly put my hand up to hide my nakedness. Then he smiled and suddenly I thought I might be all right.' Game on...
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    I agree. I would just use a shortened version of TSWLM. The damsel in distress, being terrorised by gangsters, then a stranger turns up who the ‘damsel’ assumes is another gangster - establishes the dark side of Bond’s character. He then dispatches the gangsters and mysteriously disappears into the night. Perfect.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Troy wrote: »
    I agree. I would just use a shortened version of TSWLM. The damsel in distress, being terrorised by gangsters, then a stranger turns up who the ‘damsel’ assumes is another gangster - establishes the dark side of Bond’s character. He then dispatches the gangsters and mysteriously disappears into the night. Perfect.

    However much I love the story, and above all Ian's writing, the story itself would end up beeing very short in a cinematic version anyway. And as a PTS I don't think it would work, as the PTS needs to set up the story of the main film as well.
  • edited November 6 Posts: 401
    The new film needs to do two things:
    • Introduce new Bond
    • tell a Bond adventure


    So the PTS could be largely a standalone episode - as per Goldfinger - but perhaps the damsel who turn up later to provide a connection

    I agree that the PTS could be too short, although NTTD ran for 24min which should be plenty to tell a stand-alone short story.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited November 6 Posts: 6,198
    Nice job navigating this question. Love the thoughts behind the choices.

    On to another one.

    Would you rather a female vocalist OR a male vocalist for the Theme Song?

    We are getting ahead of ourselves, but what the heck it's kind of fun to play with this question.

    Through out the series Bond songs have been a staple, in recent years winning Oscars for best song. We have examples of both male and female vocalists singing the song.

    Do you have a preference for the gender of the singer? Bonus marks if you share a name of a singer you would like to see warble the theme song.
    • Lazenby instrumental
    • Moore male vocalist
    • Dalton male vocalist
    • Brosnan female vocalist
    • Craig male vocalist

    Don't think we will ever get an instrumental track again for the theme song, but it is interesting that most of the introduction of a new Bond have had a male singer.
  • Posts: 6,287
    If it's Hozier I'd be up for a male vocal! But it depends.

    I like a good female vocalist for Bond though. I'll go with that, but either one could work.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    For me, Bond themes are epitomized by Shirley Bassey's Goldfinger, Diamonds and Moonraker themes, as well as Nancy Sinatra's (an inferior singer in comparison) brilliant YOLT theme and also Carly Simon's NDIB. They are the cream of the crop for me. Oh yes, and extra kudos to Gladys Knight's LTK, a much-overlooked gem. Except for Macca's LALD, I don't really find any outstanding Bond theme sung by a male vocalist (but hey, it's Macca!). The closest would probably be Tom Jones. Doesn't mean I "love" all female vocalists...as I said before, I can't really share the hype about Adele, find Madonna at best mediocre, and wish they had kept k.d. lang's Surrender as the main theme of TND. But overall, themes with female voices appeal to me a lot more than those by males. I'm sorry they missed the opportunity to have Annie Lennox sing a theme, but hey, she's only about seventy...
  • edited 8:15am Posts: 8,625
    Glad to hear someone else appreciates Gladys Knights LTK one of my favourites! I don't mind if the singer is male/female or a group, so long as its more upbeat catchy theme. No more doomy gloomy ballads like SF SP and NTTD!
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    For me, Bond themes are epitomized by Shirley Bassey's Goldfinger, Diamonds and Moonraker themes, as well as Nancy Sinatra's (an inferior singer in comparison) brilliant YOLT theme and also Carly Simon's NDIB. They are the cream of the crop for me. Oh yes, and extra kudos to Gladys Knight's LTK, a much-overlooked gem. Except for Macca's LALD, I don't really find any outstanding Bond theme sung by a male vocalist (but hey, it's Macca!). The closest would probably be Tom Jones. Doesn't mean I "love" all female vocalists...as I said before, I can't really share the hype about Adele, find Madonna at best mediocre, and wish they had kept k.d. lang's Surrender as the main theme of TND. But overall, themes with female voices appeal to me a lot more than those by males. I'm sorry they missed the opportunity to have Annie Lennox sing a theme, but hey, she's only about seventy...

    From Russia with love, the first song with "Bond sound".

  • edited 8:56am Posts: 6,287
    I’d say it’s GF. FRWL is good, but it sounds like it’s been written to mimic the style of an old Sinatra song. The instrumental is quite Bondian though, and I guess that’s why it was used for the titles.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I’d say it’s GF. FRWL is good, but it sounds like it’s been written to mimic the style of an old Sinatra song. The instrumental is quite Bondian though, and I guess that’s why it was used for the titles.

    That's where the Bond sound comes from, after all. Big Band, Jazz, or whatever you want to call it.

  • edited 9:23am Posts: 6,287
    I suppose. I do think they perfected that Bond sound for the main song more in GF though and gave us something more distinctive.

    But hey, it’s a step up from Three Blind Mice whatever way!
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    For me, Bond themes are epitomized by Shirley Bassey's Goldfinger, Diamonds and Moonraker themes, as well as Nancy Sinatra's (an inferior singer in comparison) brilliant YOLT theme and also Carly Simon's NDIB. They are the cream of the crop for me. Oh yes, and extra kudos to Gladys Knight's LTK, a much-overlooked gem. Except for Macca's LALD, I don't really find any outstanding Bond theme sung by a male vocalist (but hey, it's Macca!). The closest would probably be Tom Jones. Doesn't mean I "love" all female vocalists...as I said before, I can't really share the hype about Adele, find Madonna at best mediocre, and wish they had kept k.d. lang's Surrender as the main theme of TND. But overall, themes with female voices appeal to me a lot more than those by males. I'm sorry they missed the opportunity to have Annie Lennox sing a theme, but hey, she's only about seventy...

    There is something quite compelling about a strong female vocal in a Bond song. I actually think that’s why Adele was perfect for SF (I’d argue that’s a song which mixes bombast with that more somber feel). Someone like Billy Eilish with her soft, whispery voice - good as she is - just has a different feel.

    I will say I really dislike Surrender though. To me it always sounded like a knock off of a Bond song - the singer doing her best Shirley Bassey impression, the weirdly unmemorable chorus, the generic ‘Bondian’ sound to the whole thing etc.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    Posts: 780
    Male for the next one.
  • Posts: 2,511
    Dua Lipa is an obvious choice, isn't she? Isn't she British? Is there anyone more popular right now?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,708
    To kick off the new era, a male vocalist performing a “banger “of a song ; although I can imagine someone like Lady Gaga doing a song that begins like a classic Bond ballad then shifts gears into something more energetic.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I suppose. I do think they perfected that Bond sound for the main song more in GF though and gave us something more distinctive.

    But hey, it’s a step up from Three Blind Mice whatever way!

    I love that song!

    and it's the most integrated one to the story of any film.


    But they won't do that again, as titles have become a thing on theri own. I'll go for instrumental. It would be fresh, Bondian, and a good start.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Prefer female vocals generally. Would love to see one of these artists get a shot:

    Jessie Ware
    Raye
    Beth Gibbons
    Lianne La Havas

    Incidentally, all British, but not required.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,542
    QBranch wrote: »
    Prefer female vocals generally. Would love to see one of these artists get a shot:

    Jessie Ware
    Raye
    Beth Gibbons
    Lianne La Havas

    Incidentally, all British, but not required.

    Yeah, Raye's still the one for me :-bd
  • Posts: 6,287
    She's got a very good voice. Although she did that rather strange rendition of SF during the Oscars this year... then again I suppose that whole Bond segment was a bit strange.
  • Posts: 421
    I think a male voice this time out, but please let's have something with a bit energy and power. Nothing slow and dreary like SP or NTTD
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,981
    I think Oasis, Johnny Marr & Hans Zimmer would do a really good, Rock Bond title song. Yeah...so Male for me.
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