NO TIME TO DIE - Questions Thread

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• ColonelAdamski UK

  October 28 edited October 28 Posts: 1,208

  Jordo007 wrote: »

  Funnily enough I remember when the production was in Italy there was local reports the Bond crew filming a wedding on a beach somewhere. It was in Italy but away from Matera. It was around the same time the title "Genoma of a Woman" was mentioned.
  
  Perhaps Bond and Madeleine were going to be married initially, but it was cut for time or maybe it made Bond seem too cruel to put his wife on a train and leave her.

  
  That would make sense of the hotel manager's weird quip. It'd also make their lovey-dovey stuff in the car and at the hotel more understandable if they'd just got hitched on the beach.
  Imagine the car ride and the whole "do you like the view" and OHMSS soundtrack malarkey coming directly after a short beach wedding scene.
  
  It'd also make better sense Bond's "my family" quip in a way.
• Venutius Yorkshire

  October 28 edited October 28 Posts: 3,384

  Good points here from Jordo and the Colonel. Yes, all of those things would resonate more if they'd originally followed a 'short beach wedding scene.' One of the reasons that EON scrapped Paul Haggis's Sleep of the Dead script was because BB and MGW had a fundamental objection to Bond leaving Vesper's child at the Romanian orphanage and just driving away. So it's plausible that, as ColonelAdamski says, they might also have disliked the idea of Bond walking away from his wife just after the marriage.
• ColonelAdamski UK

  October 28 edited October 28 Posts: 1,208

  I'm going to suggest that if there was a wedding scene, it would have been placed after the 'let's go' line said by Maddy in the water.
  If you put a short wedding scene there, there's so much that falls into place. Not least the use of We Have All The Time in the World in the soundtrack (as well as Bond's use of the phrase). How often have we read people on here say "that tune didn't fit there, it's from another movie". Well, if they'd just gotten married it would have completely belonged, as the movie would even feel like a proper, direct homage to OHMSS. Even the stretch of road they're driving down looks just like the road from OHMSS, except they're driving the other direction, (which in itself could be a subtle wink; in this movie, Bond's bride survives, and Bond dies).
  It can't be any coincidence the OHMSS music kicks in just as they're driving down that stretch of road that so closely mirrors the road in OHMSS.
  The other thing that always felt 'off' about the pre-credit sequence, was Bond seeming to want to get the both of them shot to shit in the DB5 in the square. I've said before on here, it didn't ring true. Just because his girlfriend lied to him, he's willing to not fight back? I can imagine the scene would play better if Bond had just married her, and his new life was now in tatters. It'd have greater weight I think.
  I'm also wondering that if a marriage was part of the plot, this would explain the shot of the phone hanging off the hook, and the CCTV shot of the church that we briefly see after the graveyard explosion?
  If there was a wedding scene, and it was deleted, I think they'd have most likely done it because the pre-credit sequence was already quite complex. They didn't bother rectifying the 'wife' line by the hotel manager because it could be explainable as an assumption on his part.
• 007HallY

  October 28 Posts: 6,218

  I guess in a weird way the Craig films are this retelling of Bond's life in Fleming's novels - including him going through Vesper's death and then a 'marriage', including getting an exiled life afterwards and being roped back into the spy game. That's sort of how I see it anyway.
• ColonelAdamski UK

  October 28 Posts: 1,208

  When you put it like that, yea. It's a convincing proposition. That's one advantage of the Craig era movies, you can get your teeth into them with some serious imaginative interpretations.
  That's not something you could do with Moonraker!