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  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited October 11 Posts: 789
    In my heart the show ended when Capaldi regenerated, I hope the show returns and changes my opinion one day.

    Yep, thats about right, time to give it a rest IMO.

    Promising new characters underutilised, promising stories under developed, recycled plot points, and direct sequels, spending to much time revisiting its own past.

    Tennant comes back, now Piper may come back... if they manage to bring back William Hartnell, then I'll really be inpressed

    Take a few years off, then revive it with new blood and fresh ideas
    Dr Who is such a great concept it will always rise from the ashes and live again

    Apropos of nothing, I've been watching some episodes of an old 1970s Spy series call "Department S". IMO Peter Wyngarde might have made a good Dr Who back in the day?

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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited October 11 Posts: 26,645
    Seve wrote: »
    In my heart the show ended when Capaldi regenerated, I hope the show returns and changes my opinion one day.

    Yep, thats about right, time to give it a rest IMO.

    Promising new characters underutilised, promising stories under developed, recycled plot points, and direct sequels, spending to much time revisiting its own past.

    Tennant comes back, now Piper may come back... if they manage to bring back William Hartnell, then I'll really be inpressed

    Take a few years off, then revive it with new blood and fresh ideas
    Dr Who is such a great concept it will always rise from the ashes and live again

    Apropos of nothing, I've been watching some episodes of an old 1970s Spy series call "Department S". IMO Peter Wyngarde might have made a good Dr Who back in the day?

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    Jason King actor Peter Wyngarde would have been a great choice as The Doctor. I recently bought season's 4. 5 and 6 of The Avengers on Blu-ray, Peter Wyngarde appears there also as a villain, Wyngarde would have also made a great Master IMO.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 14,294
    Doctor Who Is “As Dead as We’ve Ever Known It”, Says “Dalek” Writer Robert Shearman
    https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/shearman-doctor-who-dead-106158.htm

    I think it's all but confirmed the show is going away again. When even RTD doesn't know what's going on, not even giving fans a bit of hope, it's not good.

    A long hiatus is probably for the best, Billy Piper's image at the end of the last episode seems to get worse by the day. I wish it would have just ended by cutting to black and we did not know who the next Doctor was.

    God RTD really did destroy the show, its such a mess with all the bi-regeneration nonsense etc. Why didn't the Doctor bi-regenerate at the end of the last episode? Terrible writing that's why.

    If and when Doctor Who returns I pray it is in the hands of someone who will respect the show and its very long history.

    RTD managed to make me appreciate the Chris Chibnal era more, which is one hell of an achievement.

    In my heart the show ended when Capaldi regenerated, I hope the show returns and changes my opinion one day.

    ---

    On a positive note I rewatched Inferno the other night, we really were spoilt during that era so many great episodes.

    Listening to The Chimes At Midnight, they really missed an opportunity not bringing back the 8th Doctor for a live action mini series at the very least.

    It's impossible to disagree with that. Bringing Billie Piper back, was an act of desperation. And to think how fans celebrated the news of RTD coming back.

    Capaldi was a good Doctor, but the writing let him down more often than not. I can count on one hand the stores featuring his Doctor that I liked. And since then, it's only gotten worse.

    Inferno is indeed a classic. Greg Sutton is one of my favourite supporting characters. Derek Newark had that old skool rugged charisma, it's a shame he didn't have a bigger career and as a leading man.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
    Posts: 579
    Capaldi is my favourite Doctor (well technically Clara is my favourite) but I think my appreciation for his era has only gotten stronger.

    I don't want to say the show died in 2017, but I think Twice Upon a Time puts a pretty decent capstone on the version of Doctor Who that began in 2005.

    I endured the Chibnall era by the end of it, after having such high hopes and that's partly why I was ambivalent to RTD returning. Because yes it was relief, I find most of RTD2 watchable, but I was sceptical that he had tempered his instincts even though in the interim he had done Years and Years and It's a Sin.

    In his finales he doubles down on the things I hated so much in his first run, and made worse by having Disney money to indulge in.

    Getting the original producers from 2005 in the first place already stank of desperation but bringing back Piper was the final nail in the coffin. Narratively it put the show in hole that feels impossible to get out of.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 26,645
    I think a way out of the Rose Doctor is if they make her regenerate again instantly then for a few more times then settle on who the next Doctor will be if the show was to have a long hiatus.

    @MajorDSmythe I agree Derek Newark was a good actor and warranted better roles. Strange coincidence I was looking through my Freeview recordings earlier and was considering watching Sidney Lumet's The Offence starring Sean Connery and Derek Newark.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 14,294
    I think a way out of the Rose Doctor is if they make her regenerate again instantly then for a few more times then settle on who the next Doctor will be if the show was to have a long hiatus.

    @MajorDSmythe I agree Derek Newark was a good actor and warranted better roles. Strange coincidence I was looking through my Freeview recordings earlier and was considering watching Sidney Lumet's The Offence starring Sean Connery and Derek Newark.

    Damn good film that, deeply uncomfortable though.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Watching The Impossible Astronaut such a great episode, we really were spoiled during this era. The script, acting, music and production is top tier.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,434
    My goodness people complained about it at the time though! :D
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited October 17 Posts: 26,645
    mtm wrote: »
    My goodness people complained about it at the time though! :D

    I never did, i always thought it was great.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 14,294
    "Complain" is a bit strong. Personally, I was just disappointed in series 6, given how phenomenally good the previous series had been. The best debut of any Doctor, any Doctor.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    The resolution for Season 6 was disappointing, I still enjoy the series and how it built up certainly the first half.

    Matt Smith was superb leading up to A Good Man Goes to War, Smith was juggling a lot with his performance knowing something was wrong with Amy, knowing his future self's outcome and conveying so much with a glance I found it compelling viewing still do.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
    Posts: 152
    I'll have to watch again. A good man goes to war is my favorite episode.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 17 Posts: 19,434
    "Complain" is a bit strong.

    Trust me, fans complained about every single episode. Different fans each time maybe, but for each and every episode of Nu Who, there's a bunch of fans who hated it.

    If you don't believe me, have a look at the very first post of this thread, which as started when the series you're talking about aired:
    This series is not good at all IMO.
    They might as well call it 'The Rory and Amy show' as the Doctor is either standing around doing nothing or is trapped and they have to save the day again - he might as well not be in it .
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 26,645
    I'll have to watch again. A good man goes to war is my favorite episode.

    A Good Man Goes to War is a fun episode, the money was on the screen good production.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 11:04am Posts: 19,434
    Quite interesting comparison video on the AI upscaling on the latest Blu Ray release:



    I haven't seen it the new release yet so I don't know if it spoils the experience or not, but based on the video I'm sort of half-and-half on it. I can totally see why folks would object to it as it's essentially giving you a different image to the one recorded at the time; and yet I'm also sort of impressed by some of them (like the upscaling on the close-up of the fingers and tracker prop- it's very clever) and I tend to think that when you're releasing old SD images on HD Blu Ray this is kind of the sort of thing you'd expect. I guess I'd probably err on the side of not doing it, and yet I can see why they might. As with most things Dr Who it'll get blown out of proportion though.
  • edited 11:17am Posts: 870
    Do they need to straighten teeth for American audiences?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,434
    Heh! I don't think it's intentional :D
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