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Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    ColonelAdamski wrote: »
    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Fair enough, but at no point NTTD says Bond is not dead. "James Bond will return" means another movie will be made, that has nothing to do with Craig's Bond being canonically alive.

    'James Bond Will Return, (even though Craig's Bond is canonically dead)'.

    Got it, thanks.

    Because audiences in 2021 were smart enough to understand what "James Bond Will Return" at the end of the movie meant.
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
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    Unlike ColonelAdamski.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    I have always preferred to imagine each Bond was a continuation of the previous one. That somehow you could imagine Craig's CR took place before SC's DN. Even with NTTD, I guess you could imagine the ending was what eventually would await SC. But I'm tired of trying to make sense of anything. I'm fine with each actor is his own Bond in his own timeline that owes nothing to any previous Bond or story. So on with the new. New guy, new history, new story. The only thing I hope is the producers never kill Bond again.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    I have always preferred to imagine each Bond was a continuation of the previous one. That somehow you could imagine Craig's CR took place before SC's DN. Even with NTTD, I guess you could imagine the ending was what eventually would await SC. But I'm tired of trying to make sense of anything. I'm fine with each actor is his own Bond in his own timeline that owes nothing to any previous Bond or story. So on with the new. New guy, new history, new story. The only thing I hope is the producers never kill Bond again.

    I suppose you could say (as Bond once did) "Don't think, just let it happen".

    Which I think is probably good advice in this instance!
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    That somehow you could imagine Craig's CR took place before SC's DN.
    Remember when the first photos leaked of M's leather padded door and wooden-panelled office in SF and there were rumours that the last scene of the film was going to be Craig and Fiennes re-enacting the first Bond and M scene from DF?
  • ColonelAdamskiColonelAdamski UK
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Because audiences in 2021 were smart enough to understand what "James Bond Will Return" at the end of the movie meant.
    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Unlike ColonelAdamski.


    No need for the snotty posts guys. I've not had a dig at anyone, at least try and treat me the same.

  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    The only thing I hope is the producers never kill Bond again.

    I think were safe from that. Killing Bond was a Craig idea and it was one of the things that got him back for NTTD.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    ColonelAdamski wrote: »
    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Fair enough, but at no point NTTD says Bond is not dead. "James Bond will return" means another movie will be made, that has nothing to do with Craig's Bond being canonically alive.

    'James Bond Will Return, (even though Craig's Bond is canonically dead)'.

    Got it, thanks.

    The credits should have read:

    James Bond Will Return*

    *Click here for next-day delivery
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan
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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    ColonelAdamski wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Because audiences in 2021 were smart enough to understand what "James Bond Will Return" at the end of the movie meant.
    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Unlike ColonelAdamski.


    No need for the snotty posts guys. I've not had a dig at anyone, at least try and treat me the same.

    I didn't make a snotty remark, or aimed my comment at you, @ColonelAdamski. I stand by what I wrote, though. People have experience nowadays with film series presenting different iterations / versions / ... of a literary / popular character. They "got it" when James Bond was only just beginning in 2006, even though he had been surfing waves as 007 four years before that. They'll "get it" when James Bond, who died in 2021, kicks off a different era in the film series some time soon. It's going to be even cleaner than in superhero stuff, where a dead character can actually come back through magic or fancy science fiction in the same era. It's just the start of a new era. It's happened elsewhere too, and audiences hardly care, especially with a at least half a decade, if not more, between these two eras.
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
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    ColonelAdamski wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Because audiences in 2021 were smart enough to understand what "James Bond Will Return" at the end of the movie meant.
    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Unlike ColonelAdamski.


    No need for the snotty posts guys. I've not had a dig at anyone, at least try and treat me the same.

    Except your post was clearly mocking me, so, there's that.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    When the movie comes out, I'm sure no one will think about NTTD. It's been a long time.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    When the movie comes out, I'm sure no one will think about NTTD. It's been a long time.

    They forgot about it soon after it was released.
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
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    Who's "they"? It's being talked all the time on the Internet.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    When the movie comes out, I'm sure no one will think about NTTD. It's been a long time.

    They forgot about it soon after it was released.

    So you've always known Bond 25 is NTTD. Interesting! :D
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Who's "they"? It's being talked all the time on the Internet.

    Between Bond fans? Yeah, but then again Never Say Never Again is talked about by us, doesn't mean it has a strong position in culture today.

    Whenever I see ordinary film fans discussing Bond nowadays it's usually Goldeneye, Casino Royale or Skyfall. I don't think average film fans remember much of the Connery or Moore films by name, and the last two films have already blended together in people's minds. If you were to ask "what's the Bond film where he falls in love with Madeline?" most people wouldn't have a clue.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Craig's films are old movies, like Brosnan's.

    Can we look forward? ;)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Craig's films are old movies, like Brosnan's.

    Can we look forward? ;)

    It’s kind of true- Craig was announced as Bond 20 years ago today: imagine when you were a kid, were you interested in movie heroes from twenty years before?
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    mtm wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Craig's films are old movies, like Brosnan's.

    Can we look forward? ;)

    It’s kind of true- Craig was announced as Bond 20 years ago today: imagine when you were a kid, were you interested in movie heroes from twenty years before?

    Yes, many current viewers were not even born.
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