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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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  • M_BlaiseM_Blaise
    Posts: 447
    Colonel_Venus wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    2029? Too early! I'm thinking 2034 or 2035.

    So 2040. Got it.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,987
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,668
    echo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?

    Virtually every scene in a Dune film has a visual effect in it; that’s not true for a Bond production.

    Once a script is locked, there’s little doubt that a Bond could be produced in under 2 years, even a year or under.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    Posts: 686
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Ideally the perfect Bond 26 would be a mixture of Casino Royale with some of the harder edges toned down, and Goldeneye with some of the sillier crowd pleasing moments toned down. Come to think of if, that'd Basically what The Living Daylights already was, and this the perfect template for Bond 26. They hit the tone of Bond perfectly, and somehow captured both the Fleming and cinematic Bond and transfused them into one finished piece, and all while drawing from real-life contemporary world events (Afghanistan/Opium). I think that with Villeneuve supplying the dry, hard-edge and Knight supplying the lightness of touch we could end up with a film that feels relevant and captures the brutality of our times, but also provide audiences with the familiar (if slightly subtler) triumphant heroism and escapism we crave.

    I think Bond 26 needs BOTH to succeed. Without an real, earnest heroism it will fail, and without an honestly and rawness it will also fail.

    Agreed it needs both.
  • MalloryMallory Rules Reastaurant
    Posts: 2,387
    talos7 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?

    Virtually every scene in a Dune film has a visual effect in it; that’s not true for a Bond production.

    Once a script is locked, there’s little doubt that a Bond could be produced in under 2 years, even a year or under.

    Sure, Bond doesn't have as many as something like Dune (Part 2 had 2500), but NTTD still had nearly 1500 VFX shots in it.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,668
    Mallory wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?

    Virtually every scene in a Dune film has a visual effect in it; that’s not true for a Bond production.

    Once a script is locked, there’s little doubt that a Bond could be produced in under 2 years, even a year or under.

    Sure, Bond doesn't have as many as something like Dune (Part 2 had 2500), but NTTD still had nearly 1500 VFX shots in it.

    Well, it depends on what they will be going for; something more grounded, like Casino Royale, would have a shorter post production
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,271
    Mallory wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?

    Virtually every scene in a Dune film has a visual effect in it; that’s not true for a Bond production.

    Once a script is locked, there’s little doubt that a Bond could be produced in under 2 years, even a year or under.

    Sure, Bond doesn't have as many as something like Dune (Part 2 had 2500), but NTTD still had nearly 1500 VFX shots in it.

    Yeah the work they did on it was amazing, proper seamless stuff.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,775
    talos7 wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?

    Virtually every scene in a Dune film has a visual effect in it; that’s not true for a Bond production.

    Once a script is locked, there’s little doubt that a Bond could be produced in under 2 years, even a year or under.

    Sure, Bond doesn't have as many as something like Dune (Part 2 had 2500), but NTTD still had nearly 1500 VFX shots in it.

    Well, it depends on what they will be going for; something more grounded, like Casino Royale, would have a shorter post production

    It’ll be interesting to see what kind of production and post timelines they’ll budget for. Without a formal release date it’s all speculation, but a grounded film with little to no SFX , like the recent One Battle After Another had six months of principal and twelve months for post(!). And I’d wager that all Bond films moving forward will still have a ton of effects due to the action sequences alone.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 9,239
    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?

    Virtually every scene in a Dune film has a visual effect in it; that’s not true for a Bond production.

    Once a script is locked, there’s little doubt that a Bond could be produced in under 2 years, even a year or under.

    Sure, Bond doesn't have as many as something like Dune (Part 2 had 2500), but NTTD still had nearly 1500 VFX shots in it.

    Well, it depends on what they will be going for; something more grounded, like Casino Royale, would have a shorter post production

    It’ll be interesting to see what kind of production and post timelines they’ll budget for. Without a formal release date it’s all speculation, but a grounded film with little to no SFX , like the recent One Battle After Another had six months of principal and twelve months for post(!). And I’d wager that all Bond films moving forward will still have a ton of effects due to the action sequences alone.

    No Bond until 2029.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 6,044
    Worth saying post isn’t just VFX but the whole thing - editing, sound, colour correction/grading, titles etc. It’s a process that you have to go through, and even a film with less VFX (whatever that means in this case) can take a while.
  • Colonel_VenusColonel_Venus
    Posts: 610
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?

    Virtually every scene in a Dune film has a visual effect in it; that’s not true for a Bond production.

    Once a script is locked, there’s little doubt that a Bond could be produced in under 2 years, even a year or under.

    Sure, Bond doesn't have as many as something like Dune (Part 2 had 2500), but NTTD still had nearly 1500 VFX shots in it.

    Well, it depends on what they will be going for; something more grounded, like Casino Royale, would have a shorter post production

    It’ll be interesting to see what kind of production and post timelines they’ll budget for. Without a formal release date it’s all speculation, but a grounded film with little to no SFX , like the recent One Battle After Another had six months of principal and twelve months for post(!). And I’d wager that all Bond films moving forward will still have a ton of effects due to the action sequences alone.

    No Bond until 2029.

    Too optimistic. No Bond until 2049.
  • MalloryMallory Rules Reastaurant
    Posts: 2,387
    Colonel_Venus wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    It took Denis over 2 years to make each of the Dune films, it will be the same for Bond. Even once filmmaking/editting is finished Imagine the level of exec scrutiny and corporate rubber-stamping this film will have to go through before it is released to the public. Amazon are quite happy waiting until 2029.

    Link or speculation?

    Virtually every scene in a Dune film has a visual effect in it; that’s not true for a Bond production.

    Once a script is locked, there’s little doubt that a Bond could be produced in under 2 years, even a year or under.

    Sure, Bond doesn't have as many as something like Dune (Part 2 had 2500), but NTTD still had nearly 1500 VFX shots in it.

    Well, it depends on what they will be going for; something more grounded, like Casino Royale, would have a shorter post production

    It’ll be interesting to see what kind of production and post timelines they’ll budget for. Without a formal release date it’s all speculation, but a grounded film with little to no SFX , like the recent One Battle After Another had six months of principal and twelve months for post(!). And I’d wager that all Bond films moving forward will still have a ton of effects due to the action sequences alone.

    No Bond until 2029.

    Too optimistic. No Bond until 2049.

    Bond Runner 2049 😎
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,775
    The producers will have a schedule and will budget accordingly. I think the example I gave above for OBAA is one extreme, where Warners gave their boy all the time in the world.

    Bond is a tentpole and they’ll give enough time for shooting and post (and yes, post is the whole shebang (editing, sound, adr, VFX, color correction…)). These producers will give the artist and his team time, but just enough of it.

    A guess? 2028 is now a safe target. 2027 is a closing window with each day, and 2029 is too long. These guys want their crown jewel out there.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 9,239
    They aren't idiots. I can't see amazon releasing a film into cinemas just to hit 2028, because 2029 is "too long". From the perspective of living in October 6th 2025 it may seem like a long time, but what about when cameras still haven't rolled 18 months from now? Then it starts to feel a lot more feasible.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,775
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    They aren't idiots. I can't see amazon releasing a film into cinemas just to hit 2028, because 2029 is "too long". From the perspective of living in October 6th 2025 it may seem like a long time, but what about when cameras still haven't rolled 18 months from now? Then it starts to feel a lot more feasible.

    Huh? You’re reading into things a year and a half away that haven’t happened.

    And actually, producers want their main IPs on a regular cycle, so, yeah, 2029 seems too long, not just for their IP, but for people like their director and producers who also have other gigs lined up!

    But hey, @Mendes4Lyfe , you know better than anyone, and you can obviously read the future.

    I’ll join the chorus in telling you to calm down, or just don’t go on this site every day. It’s obviously bad for your mental health. Seriously.
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