EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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    Pascal and Herman will have engaged a casting director, who will be busy compiling lists of potential actors and also searching for fresh actors who have yet to break through. That way, when Villeneuve has completed filming Dune 3 and is in post production, they will be ready for him and he will be available for auditions. That's when the real casting process will begin. Until then, they will be working with Steven Knight on ideas and fleshing out outlines, and then more detailed treatments. Once the produces, writer, and director and Amazon-MGM are happy, Knight will write a full 1st draft screenplay. I would estimate that to be early next year.
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    I can understand that aficionados of the movie Bond would like an official 'team' looking after the integrity of the franchise, and respecting the legacy of the series. But I have to admit, after No Time to Die, I'm quite happy for that duty of care to be passed onto someone else.
  • edited October 1 Posts: 7,039
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Pascal and Herman will have engaged a casting director, who will be busy compiling lists of potential actors and also searching for fresh actors who have yet to break through. That way, when Villeneuve has completed filming Dune 3 and is in post production, they will be ready for him and he will be available for auditions. That's when the real casting process will begin. Until then, they will be working with Steven Knight on ideas and fleshing out outlines, and then more detailed treatments. Once the produces, writer, and director and Amazon-MGM are happy, Knight will write a full 1st draft screenplay. I would estimate that to be early next year.

    My dear friend, @ColonelSun, your knowledgeable contributions are always a balm. Many thanks for putting to rest the many logistic speculations that have been thrown into the proverbial hat for the past weeks or months. That being said, when do you think Villeneuve will be free of Dune 3, filming wise? Probably by the end of the year as well, right? So everything seems to be in perfect alignment. I'm so glad (in Connery's voice) ;)
    I can understand that aficionados of the movie Bond would like an official 'team' looking after the integrity of the franchise, and respecting the legacy of the series. But I have to admit, after No Time to Die, I'm quite happy for that duty of care to be passed onto someone else.

    My feelings exactly. Integrity was properly defenestrated four years ago, for the sake of whims and under the guise of creative liberties (no need to further argue this in this particular thread, but from having Boyle's so called vision, to the narrative choices of NTTD, we can all agree that they wouldn't be keeping with the canonical line that, for better or worse, had aligned their product for 60 years. They just couldn't keep it up after CR. SF was a welcome variation that worked, a fluke made by talent and timing). So I'm quite glad to see new people around, even if I do entertain the hypothesis of EON lurking in the shadows, and I'm quite fine with that.

    All and all, brave new world, whatever brave means.
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    I think Dune 3 shoot will probably wrap end of this year. Obviously Villeneuve will have post production, which I think will be about 8 - 9 months, but in that time he will have time to work on Bond and Knight will be working on the screenplay.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    I think Dune 3 shoot will probably wrap end of this year. Obviously Villeneuve will have post production, which I think will be about 8 - 9 months, but in that time he will have time to work on Bond and Knight will be working on the screenplay.

    There's a zero percent chance that Amazon releases Bond 26 in August or September, (unless right at the end, like B25) so that means it's either July or October or later. I think given the current timelines July is too optimistic. Most likely it will be another 3 years, at the start of October 2028.
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    Bond's world building and character (although a template) is being formed at the moment. November to February are classic writing months.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Pascal and Herman will have engaged a casting director, who will be busy compiling lists of potential actors and also searching for fresh actors who have yet to break through. That way, when Villeneuve has completed filming Dune 3 and is in post production, they will be ready for him and he will be available for auditions. That's when the real casting process will begin. Until then, they will be working with Steven Knight on ideas and fleshing out outlines, and then more detailed treatments. Once the produces, writer, and director and Amazon-MGM are happy, Knight will write a full 1st draft screenplay. I would estimate that to be early next year.

    I think you're likely right, although as I said in the actor thread, I think it's possible to have an actor announcement before that if they have their eye on someone. Although there's no script, there's a concept they're exploring, and a lot of actors would be very willing to work with Villeneuve and would probably sign onto something even if he just pitched his concept to them on zoom- and Bond is obviously a known quantity. I think having DV there makes this a different proposition to when Craig needed to see a script to sign onto CR, people want to be in his films.
    DV tends to work with quality movie actors nowadays, so if they had an idea for the film and an actor in their sights, they might be wanting to sign him early before he does something else.

    Like I say, I think you're likely right as they'd be keen to explore all possibilities before signing someone, but I think there is a world where we could get a name sooner, even before Dune is done.
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    The actor needs time to go to the gym so they can't wait until the last minute.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    I think more they test actors better is it.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think more they test actors better is it.

    Sometimes they test too much, overlook the best option.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think more they test actors better is it.

    Sometimes they test too much, overlook the best option.

    Yeah but i mean in a starting point.
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    I can understand that aficionados of the movie Bond would like an official 'team' looking after the integrity of the franchise, and respecting the legacy of the series. But I have to admit, after No Time to Die, I'm quite happy for that duty of care to be passed onto someone else.
    Same. It was obvious Babs heart just wasn't in it anymore after Michael and Craig retired. So I am glad she finally let the series go. Sucks for Gregg Wilson cause we thought maybe he take the baton from them but I think there's a story behind why he wasn't given the reigns. I full trust DV to honor the integrity of the franchise with Bond 26 while at the same time building a new world for Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Gosh, Steven Knight is a busy man. It's just been announced that there's another two series of Peaky Blinders coming.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Gosh, Steven Knight is a busy man. It's just been announced that there's another two series of Peaky Blinders coming.

    Important observation.

    Will Knight be available for rewrites after Villeneuve devotes his full attention and time to Bond 26? Will Villeneuve perform his own rewrites? It's interesting to think that with two, strong authorial voices attached to Bond 26, there may only be one or two writers attached at all stages of production.

    We may get a Bond film that's clearer in its narrative and themes. There's any number of reasons why a film stumbles but the Craig Era, in my opinion, suffered most from amorphous screenplays with compelling pitches, interesting possibilities, questionable choices, and incomplete or compromised executions. The notable exception is Casino Royale. But there was the undergirding of Fleming’s’ novel on which to build the movie.

    Maybe a consistent vision from a singular creative or a duo of creatives will keep better focus. Of course, we've had Neal Purvis and Robert Wade for twenty or so years but they were, sometimes understandably, consistently overridden and rewritten. And, while I do think they were knowledgeable, reflective and enthusiastic about Bond, it seems from a comparison of output, they’ don’t have the level of authorial voice and innovation of Knight, Villeneuve or a partnership of the two.

    But we would lose that committee style of filmmaking which didn’t always produce the best Bond films yet forged a genre of its own. There was a “big top” quality to the Broccoli/Saltzman/Wilson films. I think Cubby and Barbara are two of the greatest film producers that ever worked in Hollywood, but they’re human and fallible. They kept the longest running film series in Hollywood history alive and kicking but they were also responsible for some of its ailments.

    I’m emboldened by Knight’s talk of boldness in his screenplay. Bond 26 has every opportunity to be a runaway hit, but even its failure will be judged in relative terms. Knight and Villeneuve may give us Bond 1 instead of Bond 26. I think this behind-the-camera combination, so far, could unlock the secrets of pulling it off either way.
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    Good post, that one @Burgess.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Burgess wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Gosh, Steven Knight is a busy man. It's just been announced that there's another two series of Peaky Blinders coming.

    Important observation.

    Will Knight be available for rewrites after Villeneuve devotes his full attention and time to Bond 26? Will Villeneuve perform his own rewrites? It's interesting to think that with two, strong authorial voices attached to Bond 26, there may only be one or two writers attached at all stages of production.

    We may get a Bond film that's clearer in its narrative and themes. There's any number of reasons why a film stumbles but the Craig Era, in my opinion, suffered most from amorphous screenplays with compelling pitches, interesting possibilities, questionable choices, and incomplete or compromised executions. The notable exception is Casino Royale. But there was the undergirding of Fleming’s’ novel on which to build the movie.

    Maybe a consistent vision from a singular creative or a duo of creatives will keep better focus. Of course, we've had Neal Purvis and Robert Wade for twenty or so years but they were, sometimes understandably, consistently overridden and rewritten. And, while I do think they were knowledgeable, reflective and enthusiastic about Bond, it seems from a comparison of output, they’ don’t have the level of authorial voice and innovation of Knight, Villeneuve or a partnership of the two.

    I agree this is the closest we have come to a true auteur level vision for Bond. Look at the highest rated films of 2025, Sinners and One Battle After Another, audiences are hungry for a real authorial voice.
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    Even if previous Bond directors haven’t been as ‘prestige’ as Villeneuve, I’d say we’ve had authorial voices with Bond films, or at least as much as filmmaking allows. Lewis Gilbert’s Bond films have so many creative similarities they sort of have to be considered an ‘auteur’ vision, at least within the scope of the franchise. Same for Guy Hamilton’s instalments, flaws and all. You can even argue it’s there with Mendes and Campbell - in fact with the latter you can see noticeable similarities in his non-Bond work to the Bond films he helmed. Why is he - or any of the other directors - less an authorial voice than Villeneuve could be for Bond in practice? They may not be voices as critically acclaimed or prestigious (or ‘innovative’) but they’re still distinct creative voices.

    But honestly, unless you’re literally making a movie by yourself, there’s always a high level of collaboration with filmmaking. And every director has their own individual traits and ways of working. It’s not just Villeneuve and Knight making this film, but Heyman and Pascal too, and of course the many other collaborators who’ll at some point become involved. I think romanticising ‘auteur directors’ and those ‘consistent voices’ is a flawed thing to do in practice, tempting as it is (many of us may not enjoy Bond 26 or have criticisms about its storytelling and creative choices, despite supposedly being made by these two ‘innovative’ minds. Where does that leave this argument about ‘consistent’ creative voices, if that’s even the case with this movie?) It’s worth saying Villeneuve’s fame will simply amplify for those interested that idea of his ‘authorial voice’ anyway - regardless of whatever creative decisions he himself makes with this film - so it’s at best a bit misleading. At any rate I think it’ll be a collaborative film with many creative voices (and for better or worse a good bit of studio oversight), and I’d say it’s way too early to speculate if it’ll be a great Bond instalment, let alone some masterpiece of a film. Insofar as it’s subjective anyway. We’ll just have to see whatever way.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Even if previous Bond directors haven’t been as ‘prestige’ as Villeneuve, I’d say we’ve had authorial voices with Bond films, or at least as much as filmmaking allows. Lewis Gilbert’s Bond films have so many creative similarities they sort of have to be considered an ‘auteur’ vision, at least within the scope of the franchise. Same for Guy Hamilton’s instalments, flaws and all. You can even argue it’s there with Mendes and Campbell - in fact with the latter you can see noticeable similarities in his non-Bond work to the Bond films he helmed. Why is he - or any of the other directors - less an authorial voice than Villeneuve could be for Bond in practice? They may not be voices as critically acclaimed or prestigious (or ‘innovative’) but they’re still distinct creative voices.

    Yeah I always think it's a bit iffy when folks call Campbell a 'journeyman' director or anything like that, as if he's never done anything 'auteur'-ish: he has a won an actual BAFTA. He's done some bland filler-y crap over the years, sure, but he's also done some artistic stuff, and been very well-regarded for it.
  • edited 1:32pm Posts: 6,038
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Even if previous Bond directors haven’t been as ‘prestige’ as Villeneuve, I’d say we’ve had authorial voices with Bond films, or at least as much as filmmaking allows. Lewis Gilbert’s Bond films have so many creative similarities they sort of have to be considered an ‘auteur’ vision, at least within the scope of the franchise. Same for Guy Hamilton’s instalments, flaws and all. You can even argue it’s there with Mendes and Campbell - in fact with the latter you can see noticeable similarities in his non-Bond work to the Bond films he helmed. Why is he - or any of the other directors - less an authorial voice than Villeneuve could be for Bond in practice? They may not be voices as critically acclaimed or prestigious (or ‘innovative’) but they’re still distinct creative voices.

    Yeah I always think it's a bit iffy when folks call Campbell a 'journeyman' director or anything like that, as if he's never done anything 'auteur'-ish: he has a won an actual BAFTA. He's done some bland filler-y crap over the years, sure, but he's also done some artistic stuff, and been very well-regarded for it.

    Being an auteur or having a consistent creative voice isn’t in itself a sign of quality I suppose. Ed Wood, Tommy Wiseau, and Uwe Boll are auteurs with consistent creative voices. They probably have/had fuller creative control over their films than Villeneuve in practice! With Campbell even in his bland fill-ery crap there are creative similarities to his Bond films I’d say.
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