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007 First Light - IO Interactive - The New James Bond Video Game

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  • HitchBondUSAHitchBondUSA USA
    edited 5:37pm Posts: 329
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The first one to even hint at Kirk again, gets a warning. Three warnings, and you're out. We are not bringing American politics into this forum ever again. We're better than that.

    Thank you 👍 let's steer away @DarthDimi let's speculate about what the villain of the game is about instead.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,664
    I'm very curious to see what the driving in this game will be like... was there any driving in Hitman? It looks like it'll be heavy, realistic driving which I'm not as much a fan of, but would make sense for this linear, story-driven looking game (where it's always very clear where you'll be driving). Which leads me to wonder if this game will have any amount of an open-world component? Dreaming about a Bond game that lets you travel the world more-less at your discretion, and uncover a plot as you go.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,872
    It's cool we've got a look at M. I wonder if they'll do something similar for other characters? It's nice that we've got a Ronson and Nash working with Bond, cool easter eggs for fans
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,664
    Didn't notice Ronson and Nash! That's cool.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited 6:49pm Posts: 901
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Just because Ian Fleming is dead, it doesn't mean its open season to do whatever you want with characters he created.

    Ian Fleming's thoughts on the world are pretty clear from his writing and interviews.

    I understand your perspective and I think we’re both passionate fans of Bond, which makes you a friend in my book. We may be too far a part on some issues but I admire your love of the character and stories, and I hope we both get to enjoy Bond in many formats for years and years to come.

    Agreed, my thoughts are simple. That Iconic British characters should be played by ethnic, indigenous Brits, more often than not. I think changing the race of a character changes who they are fundamentally.

    Again, I like Naomie Harris as Moneypenny and Ben Whishaw as Q, but they were cast in a different time, when this sort of racial stunt casting wasn't as plentiful. Now, I'm just tired of it.

    I don't think that is controversial. But I digress.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 5,937
    Does Ben Wishaw not count as an indigenous Brit in this instance? 🤔
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Didn't notice Ronson and Nash! That's cool.

    Didn’t notice that either! Pretty cool.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    Posts: 2,163
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    I'm very curious to see what the driving in this game will be like... was there any driving in Hitman? It looks like it'll be heavy, realistic driving which I'm not as much a fan of, but would make sense for this linear, story-driven looking game (where it's always very clear where you'll be driving). Which leads me to wonder if this game will have any amount of an open-world component? Dreaming about a Bond game that lets you travel the world more-less at your discretion, and uncover a plot as you go.

    Watch the 30 minute playthrough with the car chase, maybe? It's very classic Bond driving imo, where you basically just pin the throttle at max, the villain is just one step ahead, but you're given "route options" like maybe, a construction site you can cut through as a shortcut, or a ramp to go over an obstacle (as was demonstrated).

    It is not a Grand Theft Auto Bond game.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,664
    I did watch it, that’s where I got my impression of the driving. Looking forward to it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 11:24pm Posts: 19,078
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Just because Ian Fleming is dead, it doesn't mean its open season to do whatever you want with characters he created.

    Ian Fleming's thoughts on the world are pretty clear from his writing and interviews.

    But as I say, it’s been nearly thirty years since it was established, and very much welcomed, that M’s superficial description can move beyond that of Fleming’s.
    Q isn’t described in the novels at all, why aren’t we more upset at his depiction? It’s just about race and silly culture wars really.
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    It's cool we've got a look at M. I wonder if they'll do something similar for other characters? It's nice that we've got a Ronson and Nash working with Bond, cool easter eggs for fans

    I missed those, where did they appear?

    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    And Major Boothroyd’s been made into Q (a character Fleming didn’t explicitly write about) for the early films specifically. Obviously since TWINE it’s a code name like M’s. Moneypenny I suppose is the same character in different versions… I don’t remember anyone getting hung up about Niomi Harris taking the role for what it’s worth. Honestly, I suspect most know all this but don’t care.

    I mean, even if M were still Sir Miles - similar background/personality - and was played by a non-white actor but in a contemporary story, would most people care? I think they do that in the Dynamite comics if I’m not mistaken. Like, it’s not exactly a case where they’ve race swapped Othello or Black Panther. As I said short of a specific hang up about the one playing this character I don’t see why it’d elicit any strong feeling.

    All good points, and this is usually where these race discussions get mired; people can’t understand that things like blaxploitation exists, and there are stories where a character being black is integral to the story being told, where Bond or M continuing to be white is not integral. I’d concede that it probably was in LALD, but we’ve had that novel, and had that film. I think it’s okay to move on and tell new and interesting stories.
    There are characteristics of these characters that are integral to the stories being told, and there are characteristics that are not. What’s important is the stories, not the amount of pigment in melanin.

    Perfectly put 👍
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