EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,719
    So, filmmaking!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 1 Posts: 19,038
    Just because I'm curious about the ownership of Bond, what do you think the 'London Operations LLC' bit at the bottom of this refers to? The way it's phrased it makes it sound like MGM is a licensee which I don't quite get.

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    The only other places I've found it is on the blurb on this Sock Company page and this 007 interactive game, with much the same phrasing.


    So what's London Operations LLC? Do they own James Bond?

    EDIT: one more result, it looks like they own the trademark for 007 First Light, and London Operations LLC is given as Culver City Studios, which is where Amazon MGM is based. So my guess is London Operations LLC is the name of the new venture which owns Bond?

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    mtm wrote: »
    Just because I'm curious about the ownership of Bond, what do you think the 'London Operations LLC' bit at the bottom of this refers to? The way it's phrased it makes it sound like MGM is a licensee which I don't quite get.

    Gzviso3a4AEypFY?format=jpg&name=large

    The only other places I've found it is on the blurb on this Sock Company page and this 007 interactive game, with much the same phrasing.


    So what's London Operations LLC? Do they own James Bond?

    You may have found the new holdings company for all the James Bond rights @mtm

    https://uspto.report/company/London-Operations-L-L-C

    London Operations LLC are based at:

    9336 W. Washington Blvd. Culver City, CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES 90232

    Culver City is where (shocker) Amazon Studios are based:

    https://www.hackmancapital.com/michael-hackman-on-his-major-culver-city-buys-and-landing-dream-tenant-amazon/

    Nice find!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 1 Posts: 19,038
    Oh, ha! I just found that link and added it to my post as you posted that @Mallory ! :D

    I think you're right, I guess this is the new venture which MGM and Broccoli/Wilson co-own...?

    As you say, I guess it's a holding company, much like Danjaq was, and MGM licence James Bond from London Operations, much like Eon presumably licensed James Bond from Danjaq previously.
    The Delaware LLC lookup service says it was formed on 8th November 2024, but not who the registered owners are, which is a shame.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,614
    Encouraging…


  • Posts: 5,908
    mtm wrote: »
    The Delaware LLC lookup service says it was formed on 8th November 2024, but not who the registered owners are, which is a shame.

    So unless I'm misreading this, that means this holding company was set up a good while before the official announcement of Amazon taking the creative rights to Bond? As I've said a while after the announcement, I think this was all a long time in the making anyway, and it'd put the PR wars with the WSJ article and even Salke's bizarre comments during an interview (and to some extent her firing) into perspective about the ins and outs of these negotiations.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited September 1 Posts: 6,944
    Burgess wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    There's no reason he couldn't play the villain.

    It would be too distracting, as would have Connery playing Kincade.

    I can see how it could be but, after a decade-plus of shared universes and multiverses, I think audiences are sophisticated enough to understand and accept a former Bond paying homage to the series in another role. If it were Daniel Craig returning as the villain then I would agree. But time has passed. After all the marketing and anticipation of a new Bond, few are going to be thrown for a loop if Brosnan appears in Bond 26 as someone other than Bond.

    Brosnan as Dikko Henderson and Dalton as Blofeld in the faithful adaptation of YOLT we all want. Throw in Janssen as Irma Bunt.
  • Posts: 2,368
    I think it would be to lower them. Hasn't anyone seen Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? Al Pacino explains it very well.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited September 1 Posts: 6,944
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Please panic elsewhere.

    +1.

    Negativity based on nothing other than speculation.
    "Sounds like an unintentional laugh honestly."

    Pretty intentional from how i see it...He's in a hurry to contact control. Then puts the brakes on when she asks him to join her. Lighthearted and Bondian after a blistering PTS.

    I love Dalton's first reading of "Bond, James Bond." He's a man on a mission, first and foremost. And it ties with his characterization soon after the PTS: "If he fires me, I'll thank him for it."

    You know, as if Dalton was intentionally playing the Bond character consistently throughout the film.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited September 1 Posts: 9,187
    echo wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Please panic elsewhere.

    +1.

    Negativity based on nothing other than speculation.

    What about this?
    echo wrote: »
    There was a dropoff between LTK and GE when various Eon collaborators left. GE was a copy of Bond's greatest hits.

    CR and SF (at the very least) corrected that problem, hugely. Bond felt relevant and individualistic.

    Now we are going to get a copy of a copy. Sigh.



  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 19,038
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The Delaware LLC lookup service says it was formed on 8th November 2024, but not who the registered owners are, which is a shame.

    So unless I'm misreading this, that means this holding company was set up a good while before the official announcement of Amazon taking the creative rights to Bond? As I've said a while after the announcement, I think this was all a long time in the making anyway, and it'd put the PR wars with the WSJ article and even Salke's bizarre comments during an interview (and to some extent her firing) into perspective about the ins and outs of these negotiations.

    Yeah, the sale was probably in the pipeline for years really, it's a lot of money and an awfully big thing to do. Some folks have said they were looking to do it since a couple of years after Spectre, but I wouldn't have thought it would be a great deal for anyone but MGM (as anyone else buying out the Brocs would be partnered with MGM), and they were really only in a position to do it after Amazon bought them.

    On a smaller level I'm wondering why this London thing has taken so long to appear. Maybe the ownership has taken a little while to transfer in some way.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited September 1 Posts: 6,944
    "Sounds like an unintentional laugh honestly."

    Pretty intentional from how i see it...He's in a hurry to contact control. Then puts the brakes on when she asks him to join her. Lighthearted and Bondian after a blistering PTS.
    echo wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Please panic elsewhere.

    +1.

    Negativity based on nothing other than speculation.

    What about this?
    echo wrote: »
    There was a dropoff between LTK and GE when various Eon collaborators left. GE was a copy of Bond's greatest hits.

    CR and SF (at the very least) corrected that problem, hugely. Bond felt relevant and individualistic.

    Now we are going to get a copy of a copy. Sigh.



    Yes, but I adjust my opinion depending on the information that we receive from Amazon. Knight is a particularly good sign.
  • edited September 1 Posts: 321
    Watching though allied I'm getting a very from Russia with love feel if that is what is in store with a modern twist I think we are in for something very special 😀 some of the dialog is stuff bond would say after killing someone like in dr no and from Russia with love. Dr no "he is on his way to a funeral" or "don't let him get away". Even thunderball has some stuff. Serious story telling with dark humor maybe? Or even here
  • edited September 1 Posts: 5,908
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The Delaware LLC lookup service says it was formed on 8th November 2024, but not who the registered owners are, which is a shame.

    So unless I'm misreading this, that means this holding company was set up a good while before the official announcement of Amazon taking the creative rights to Bond? As I've said a while after the announcement, I think this was all a long time in the making anyway, and it'd put the PR wars with the WSJ article and even Salke's bizarre comments during an interview (and to some extent her firing) into perspective about the ins and outs of these negotiations.

    Yeah, the sale was probably in the pipeline for years really, it's a lot of money and an awfully big thing to do. Some folks have said they were looking to do it since a couple of years after Spectre, but I wouldn't have thought it would be a great deal for anyone but MGM (as anyone else buying out the Brocs would be partnered with MGM), and they were really only in a position to do it after Amazon bought them.

    If that’s the case then I think EON were much more savvy with their PR than many of us believe - ie. saying publicly since 2022 ‘we’re the custodians of this franchise for better or worse’, about how Bond should be a cinema release, how Bond is best played by a 30+ year old in their experience, how they should be contemporary films, and even the tentative deadline of a Bond film being 2 years away. It also puts the WSJ article into perspective with little quotes like ‘Broccoli doesn’t believe Amazon is the best home for Bond’. It gives the criticisms of Amazon a whole new meaning if you go into it believing a deal was underway and the conditions of which were being ironed out. As I’ve said before I think they won more than most believe.

    It also means Jennifer Salke is a complete idiot who either knew nothing of all this (which is highly unlikely) or inadvertently set off a very bad reaction from EON and may have given them a lot of what they wanted (ie. Saying ‘we’ll wait for them’ when all this was going down, making it seem like EON were the ones holding a new Bond film back, and of course making way for that WSJ article the following month. Again, either that’s ignorant or extraordinarily stupid and antagonistic of her to say in public).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 9,187
    echo wrote: »
    "Sounds like an unintentional laugh honestly."

    Pretty intentional from how i see it...He's in a hurry to contact control. Then puts the brakes on when she asks him to join her. Lighthearted and Bondian after a blistering PTS.
    echo wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Please panic elsewhere.

    +1.

    Negativity based on nothing other than speculation.

    What about this?
    echo wrote: »
    There was a dropoff between LTK and GE when various Eon collaborators left. GE was a copy of Bond's greatest hits.

    CR and SF (at the very least) corrected that problem, hugely. Bond felt relevant and individualistic.

    Now we are going to get a copy of a copy. Sigh.



    Yes, but I adjust my opinion depending on the information that we receive from Amazon. Knight is a particularly good sign.

    And I'll adjust mine as more info comes in, same as you.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    Posts: 562
    talos7 wrote: »
    Encouraging…

    A definetly of an actor to keep eye on for Bond 7 or even Bond 8.

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    If the new Bond film is anything like the new gameplay from First Light then.............no thanks.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 10 Posts: 19,038
    I see there’s been this story about Marvel moving production from Georgia, USA to Pinewood (in part because of lower labour costs and universal healthcare), which I guess signals there’s a good chance B26 will shoot in the U.K. - unless there’s some sort of political reaction.
    https://screenrant.com/marvel-studios-leaving-georgia-filming-location/
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
    Posts: 1,458
    mtm wrote: »
    I see there’s been this story about Marvel moving production from Georgia, USA to Pinewood (in part because of lower labour costs and universal healthcare), which I guess signals there’s a good chance B26 will shoot in the U.K. - unless there’s some sort of political reaction.
    https://screenrant.com/marvel-studios-leaving-georgia-filming-location/

    On the flipside, wasn't there some handwringing (by me. My hands were wrung) that Disney has booked out most of the blockbuster level studio space in the UK for decades to come? I seem to remember that we tried to include that in our calculations on a Bond26 timeline.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 10:55am Posts: 19,038
    I think Pinewood is likely booked up, yeah, but I’m sure there’s other space. I guess the producers have probably booked that by now, I assume that’s a very early part of the process.
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    delfloria wrote: »
    If the new Bond film is anything like the new gameplay from First Light then.............no thanks.

    I know what you mean. But First Light is a video game. Dennis Villeneuve won't make a video game-like James Bond film, rest assured. Nor will Knight write one. To ease your concerns, I advise you to watch the making off video for Blade Runner 2049. I get really excited each time I revisit it. Top notch artists, those were. And now, with a proper writer, we'll get something special. Patrick Gibson would also never be Bond in a film made by these fellas, IMO. It'll all be special, in that I truly believe. If...no one drops out in the meantime ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 9,187
    Univex wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    If the new Bond film is anything like the new gameplay from First Light then.............no thanks.

    I know what you mean. But First Light is a video game. Dennis Villeneuve won't make a video game-like James Bond film, rest assured. Nor will Knight write one. To ease your concerns, I advise you to watch the making off video for Blade Runner 2049. I get really excited each time I revisit it. Top notch artists, those were. And now, with a proper writer, we'll get something special. Patrick Gibson would also never be Bond in a film made by these fellas, IMO. It'll all be special, in that I truly believe. If...no one drops out in the meantime ;)

    I'd say the odds of that are about 50/50.

    We're on a James Bond fan site, and even we have only from one page worth of things to talk about regarding Bond 26 in the past 2 weeks! Development is moving at a snails pace, I would not be surprised if Villeneuve decides he can't wait on making his other projects and leaves the production. Simply put, there's no way they are going to make the film on the schedule they originally planned for.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 1:57pm Posts: 19,038
    They have to write the script though. It doesn't happen overnight and never has.
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    Doom! Gloom! 😉

    Always worth saying we don’t know anything about their development or what’s going on behind the scenes. They appear to be moving on with it though. Let’s just see. Anyway, if it turns out someone drops out I’m sure there’ll be a suitable replacement.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    Posts: 2,142
    Univex wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    If the new Bond film is anything like the new gameplay from First Light then.............no thanks.

    I know what you mean. But First Light is a video game. Dennis Villeneuve won't make a video game-like James Bond film, rest assured. Nor will Knight write one. To ease your concerns, I advise you to watch the making off video for Blade Runner 2049. I get really excited each time I revisit it. Top notch artists, those were. And now, with a proper writer, we'll get something special. Patrick Gibson would also never be Bond in a film made by these fellas, IMO. It'll all be special, in that I truly believe. If...no one drops out in the meantime ;)

    I'd say the odds of that are about 50/50.

    We're on a James Bond fan site, and even we have only from one page worth of things to talk about regarding Bond 26 in the past 2 weeks! Development is moving at a snails pace, I would not be surprised if Villeneuve decides he can't wait on making his other projects and leaves the production. Simply put, there's no way they are going to make the film on the schedule they originally planned for.

    They haven't announced a schedule. You really should find something else to worry about.
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    Damm, my post was meant to be a positive and reassuring one 🙄😆
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