Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 576
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Well maybe an unknown is what’s needed for Bond 26
    Not a bad idea.

    I agree. I think this unknown guy should be given serious consideration....


  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I finally watched Superman last night, thought Hoult was really good in it. I’m still thinking he’s in with a good chance, if being contracted to Lex doesn’t put him out of the running.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Ah, the elusive “ white whale “‘, the unknown actor. The actor eventually cast will have a certain body of work; they aren’t going to cast someone who comes from a dinner theater background. The upper level of public recognition would be someone like Theo James or Nicholas Hoult , with the lower end a Leo Suter or Callum Turner.

    I find it humorous that many call for an “ unknown “ but when actors who fit that description are suggested, it’s often followed by ‘ well, he really hasn’t done anything’. or ‘ he hasn’t proven that he can carry a film.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 31 Posts: 18,988
    I mean you've just said exactly that so I guess you've amused yourself! :D
    That's just logic really, I don't see them giving a role this big to someone who has never starred in a film or large screen production before. They did it once with Bond and it ended badly, and it matters even more now. You just have to listen to Craig talk about the experience of shooting one of these.

    I think some folks hope for an unknown because they want to believe there's a guy out there who looks just like Tim Dalton and has the experience of/acts like Craig or Connery who we've all somehow never seen before, but it's going to be a compromise.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    While it’s incredibly important that an actor who can handle the role, and all that goes with it is important , all of the other elements, script, director, production design, score, supporting cast, etc, are equally important, if not more important. If an actor is cast who is a relative unknown but possesses all of the qualities needed, he will immediately be known as James Bond; almost overnight he will be a star.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I've never been convinced by Hoult for Bond.

    He was in a film called Those Who Wish Me Dead with Angelina Jolie, he played a menacing assassin and he just wasn't convincing at all
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    talos7 wrote: »
    While it’s incredibly important that an actor who can handle the role, and all that goes with it is important , all of the other elements, script, director, production design, score, supporting cast, etc, are equally important, if not more important. If an actor is cast who is a relative unknown but possesses all of the qualities needed, he will immediately be known as James Bond; almost overnight he will be a star.

    It would depend on the unknown. I think it's very unlikely we're going to get such an actor who has all those qualities though - not just the looks but charisma, talent, screen presence. Generally to be a very good actor (or even just to hone that charisma/screen presence) you need a level of experience, and I think it's fair to say more established actors have a leg up here.

    I think, for example, we're just not likely to get a good Bond from a 30 year old, little known model who looks like the incarnation of a young Gregory Peck, but hasn't been in anything. Unfortunately, much like poor George Lazenby I think they'd struggle with the performance. As good as the film might be, a lacklustre Bond will be front and centre for the audience. I just don't think they can get away with a bad lead (and incidentally, I don't think we'd get a bad Bond from Turner, ATJ, Suter, or even James or Hould. Some might be stronger picks than others, but I think all would put in competent performances).
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    mtm wrote: »
    I finally watched Superman last night, thought Hoult was really good in it. I’m still thinking he’s in with a good chance, if being contracted to Lex doesn’t put him out of the running.
    Was he runner up for Batman too, only lose to Pattinson?

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    I'd never heard of David Corenswet before he was cast as Superman, and now he's quite high in my Superman actor rankings. I think an unknown actor for Bond would be fine as long as he's right for the role. Sadly though, we're living in an era where it seems to be believed that just about anybody can play Bond as long as he's young enough to carry the role for a decade.
    I know a guy that was dead set on Rich Little taking over from Roger Moore. Today a suggestion like that would be embraced with open arms. :D
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    It just struck me how the casting of the two superheroes mentioned above, Batman and Superman illustrate the two approaches to casting; in motion pictures Superman has always gone with relatively unknown actors while Batman has gone with established performers.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah it is interesting how they've always found a relatively unknown for Superman.
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I finally watched Superman last night, thought Hoult was really good in it. I’m still thinking he’s in with a good chance, if being contracted to Lex doesn’t put him out of the running.
    Was he runner up for Batman too, only lose to Pattinson?

    Yes, although to be fair I'm pretty sure Pattinson was the main choice anyway. In fact Hoult's even spoken about listening to the radio in his car and hearing about how Pattinson had definitely been cast as Batman a week before he was meant to audition. Not the best sign! It doesn't say anything about Hoult's talents as an actor though (he's a very good one). When it comes to Bond it's probably the same situation with Superman and Batman though - he's just probably not quite the right fit for that role. I'd be very surprised if it's him. The guy's clearly got some great roles ahead of him though, and I think he's more interesting when he's playing supporting parts or villain roles.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah it is interesting how they've always found a relatively unknown for Superman.
    Prospect like Corenswet for Bond 7 would be amazing.

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    MSL49 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah it is interesting how they've always found a relatively unknown for Superman.
    Prospect like Corenswet for Bond 7 would be amazing.

    The overwhelming majority of the prospects we mention here are relatively unknown. The majority of the movie going audience are not locked in and paying attention to casting rumors and things like that they way we as bond fanatics do.
  • Posts: 253
    'Unknown' is not a flaw. It's potential.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    I think if you cast bravely it could pay off.
  • David Corenswet might have been an unknown to the mass audience, but he was definitely the most popular fancast choice for quite a while. Our version of Corenswet was Aidan Turner for a while. Now that his name isn't thrown around as much I'm not totally sure who it is. Probably Callum Turner?
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    Yes, it is very likely that the new Bond will be someone we have already mentioned.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Superman 2 is coming July 2027. That probably rules out Hoult as Bond if we're getting B26 in that year.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Gosh that's a quick turnaround. I'm going to bet on that date slipping.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    mtm wrote: »
    Gosh that's a quick turnaround. I'm going to bet on that date slipping.

    It's like a week after Shrek 5 and animated Spiderman sequel... it should move. Disney releases a mystery something two weeks later.
  • Posts: 576
    With Corenswet playing Superman again that takes him out of the running to be Bond. ;))
  • Posts: 2,347
    Sophie Turner will play Lara Croft for the Amazon series.

    Why am I talking about this?

    Because she was one of the candidates...almost a year ago.

    https://deadline.com/2024/10/tomb-raider-sophie-turner-lucy-boynton-lara-croft-1236161243/

    I wouldn't expect any surprises regarding Bond.
  • edited September 4 Posts: 5,875
    Even if you go back and read tabloid nonsense around the time of the CR auditions you still get mentions of Daniel Craig as one of the candidates. Once these auditions really get going, and especially later when deals are being made, it’s hard and often pointless nowadays trying to keep this completely secret.

    Recent major examples are I guess Robert Pattinson getting cast as Batman (I remember his name being linked to the film a while before he was announced as one of those ‘that’d be cool’ choices, even if many general audiences were a bit skeptical. Variety even wrote about it a few weeks before he was finalised/announced - https://variety.com/2019/film/news/robert-pattinson-batman-matt-reeves-bruce-wayne-dc-comics-1203125473/). I’m sure it’s the same with Corenswet as Superman, and as said he was seemingly a fan favourite.

    We’re unlikely to get some unknown actor who’ll swoop in, become Bond, and save some of us from the possibility of a candidate we don’t like getting the role by being perfect. On the flip side I think it’s unlikely we’re going to get any candidate who’s either said they’re not overly interested, or have seemingly been aged out (ie. We’re probably not going to get Theo or Aidan Turner). This thread goes back over a thousand pages, most of which is relatively recent. Most likely it’ll be someone who’s been mentioned, probably one of the more notable ones, and we’ll likely know who it is before an official confirmation.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 4 Posts: 18,988
    Yeah I didn't follow it closely at all, but I remember it being no surprise at all that Corenswet got the job. I feel like it was actually reported that he, and Hoult in fact, were auditioning, there was no secrecy at all. Other folks'll know better than me.
    007HallY wrote: »
    We’re unlikely to get some unknown actor who’ll swoop in, become Bond, and save some of us from the possibility of a candidate we don’t like getting the role by being perfect.

    Yeah I think it's a bit of a dream to imagine there's some guy out there who magically personifies all of the ideal Bond traits for everyone but we've somehow never heard of him.

    Good to hear Tomb Raider is still happening, I hope it's fun. I didn't really like the last film.
  • edited September 4 Posts: 5,875
    I’ve said it before but when Hoult auditioned for Batman he heard on the radio a week before that Pattinson had gotten it. It’s so tricky keeping it all under wraps. Pretty sure Corenswet was in something where another character sarcastically called him ‘Superman’ too, so I can see how it wasn’t a surprise (I mean, the guy looks and has seemingly acted like Kent/Superman in previous films).
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I didn't follow it closely at all, but I remember it being no surprise at all that Corenswet got the job. I feel like it was actually reported that he, and Hoult in fact, were auditioning, there was no secrecy at all. Other folks'll know better than me.
    007HallY wrote: »
    We’re unlikely to get some unknown actor who’ll swoop in, become Bond, and save some of us from the possibility of a candidate we don’t like getting the role by being perfect.

    Yeah I think it's a bit of a dream to imagine there's some guy out there who magically personifies all of the ideal Bond traits for everyone but we've somehow never heard of him.

    And even if they found that unknown who looks great, it probably wouldn’t work out anyway. There’s that old story of Broccoli and Saltzman holding a competition to find the first Bond amongst models/unknowns, and when they eventually found a 28 year old model who looked like Gregory Peck they realised he simply couldn’t act and had no natural charisma. Unfortunately 9/10 times that’s the situation!

    Whoever gets the role will get it for a reason. Any reservations I or anyone else has about any actor will have to be put aside if they’re picked at the end of the day.

    Anyway, on a different note, that Lynley thing with Leo Suter comes out in Canada/the US today, doesn’t it? Out later in the UK for some reason. Just occurred to me if it’s any good and gets a second series it’s less likely Suter will be available, although maybe Lynley isn’t quite a Remington Steele thing (it’d be very strange though if the next Bond was doing a BritBox show at the same time… it’d be a bit like if Daniel Craig had played a major recurring character on Silent Witness or something at the same time of his first few Bond films… in fact it’d be weirder considering how supposedly Bond-like Suter’s character is meant to be).
  • edited September 4 Posts: 253
    You can't just dump Bond on an unknown actor and expect them to have his own version. You'd have to develop it for years before you swoop in.
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    dewiparry wrote: »
    You can't just dump Bond on an unknown actor and expect them to have his own version. You'd have to develop it for years before you swoop in.

    As Roger Moore once said (or quoted, no idea): an overnight success is one that’s come from many years in the making.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    A nice video...

    Suter absolutely deserves a look and a screentest.

    https://www.tvinsider.com/1212662/lynley-leo-suter-sofia-barclay-video-interview/
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Even if you go back and read tabloid nonsense around the time of the CR auditions you still get mentions of Daniel Craig as one of the candidates. Once these auditions really get going, and especially later when deals are being made, it’s hard and often pointless nowadays trying to keep this completely secret.

    Recent major examples are I guess Robert Pattinson getting cast as Batman (I remember his name being linked to the film a while before he was announced as one of those ‘that’d be cool’ choices, even if many general audiences were a bit skeptical. Variety even wrote about it a few weeks before he was finalised/announced - https://variety.com/2019/film/news/robert-pattinson-batman-matt-reeves-bruce-wayne-dc-comics-1203125473/). I’m sure it’s the same with Corenswet as Superman, and as said he was seemingly a fan favourite.

    We’re unlikely to get some unknown actor who’ll swoop in, become Bond, and save some of us from the possibility of a candidate we don’t like getting the role by being perfect. On the flip side I think it’s unlikely we’re going to get any candidate who’s either said they’re not overly interested, or have seemingly been aged out (ie. We’re probably not going to get Theo or Aidan Turner). This thread goes back over a thousand pages, most of which is relatively recent. Most likely it’ll be someone who’s been mentioned, probably one of the more notable ones, and we’ll likely know who it is before an official confirmation.
    For me Alex O Loughlin was another interesting name back in 2005.
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