EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 26 Posts: 18,901
    MSL49 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I've always been slightly hesitant to think that B26 will even definitely be directed by Villeneuve; directors drop out of projects all the time- just the recent Fantastic Four was originally to be directed by Jon Watts, then Matt Shakman took over only because he himself had had a Star Trek movie project fall through. And in the Bonds we've had Roger Michell, Danny Boyle etc. drop out at a similar sort of stage that B26 is nearing now. Stuff will happen, plans will change, it's not uncommon at all.
    What you think of new Fantastic Four?

    Haven't caught it yet! :D I guess it's probably Disney+ for me at this rate. Did you see it?
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
    edited August 26 Posts: 502
    mtm wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I've always been slightly hesitant to think that B26 will even definitely be directed by Villeneuve; directors drop out of projects all the time- just the recent Fantastic Four was originally to be directed by Jon Watts, then Matt Shakman took over only because he himself had had a Star Trek movie project fall through. And in the Bonds we've had Roger Michell, Danny Boyle etc. drop out at a similar sort of stage that B26 is nearing now. Stuff will happen, plans will change, it's not uncommon at all.
    What you think of new Fantastic Four?

    Haven't caught it yet! :D I guess it's probably Disney+ for me at this rate. Did you see it?
    Not yet but one of the must see movies for me this year.

  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I've always been slightly hesitant to think that B26 will even definitely be directed by Villeneuve; directors drop out of projects all the time- just the recent Fantastic Four was originally to be directed by Jon Watts, then Matt Shakman took over only because he himself had had a Star Trek movie project fall through. And in the Bonds we've had Roger Michell, Danny Boyle etc. drop out at a similar sort of stage that B26 is nearing now. Stuff will happen, plans will change, it's not uncommon at all.
    What you think of new Fantastic Four?

    Haven't caught it yet! :D I guess it's probably Disney+ for me at this rate. Did you see it?
    Not yet but one of the must see movie for me this year.


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    Remember when Del Toro was originally supposed to direct An Unexpected Journey and had to leave? The best made plans of mice and men.

    Del Toro is a special case. He's notorious for dropping out of projects and then whining about how the producers/studio couldn't meet his terms.

    Villeneuve has backed out of a few things, but not at the rate of Del Toro, and certainly not as late in the process.

  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited August 26 Posts: 2,837
    I think it would take a lot for Villeneuve to drop out of Bond 26, since he's already got no issues with the final cut. I think like Dune, doing a Bond film was always his dream. Plus, so far...on the creative page, he's got no issues with Heyman-Pascal-Amazon.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah you're right, it feels less likely than the other two examples I mentioned, but I won't be 100% confident until nearer the time!
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah you're right, it feels less likely than the other two examples I mentioned, but I won't be 100% confident until nearer the time!

    Yeah. That's true.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah you're right, it feels less likely than the other two examples I mentioned, but I won't be 100% confident until nearer the time!

    Again, of mice and men. Everything just seems too serene at the moment, everything slotting into place, everyone getting along. It's like we're waiting for the other shoe to drop.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I think it can be fall 2027 provided no delays on Dune 3. It gives Knight a year and change to pen the script and get some castings rolling for cameras to start rolling early 2027
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I think it can be fall 2027 provided no delays on Dune 3. It gives Knight a year and change to pen the script and get some castings rolling for cameras to start rolling early 2027

    You think cameras will roll early 2027 and the film will premiere in fall? We're not on EON's schedule anymore, it's going to take at least a year from start of filming to release.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    It seems the film's release date would be announced, once Bond 7 is unveiled.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I think it can be fall 2027 provided no delays on Dune 3. It gives Knight a year and change to pen the script and get some castings rolling for cameras to start rolling early 2027

    You think cameras will roll early 2027 and the film will premiere in fall? We're not on EON's schedule anymore, it's going to take at least a year from start of filming to release.

    I respectfully disagree. Once everything is in place, it'll be wheels on the ground. I mean how long does it take to film? Expect an announcement and press conference in December 2026
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I think it can be fall 2027 provided no delays on Dune 3. It gives Knight a year and change to pen the script and get some castings rolling for cameras to start rolling early 2027

    You think cameras will roll early 2027 and the film will premiere in fall? We're not on EON's schedule anymore, it's going to take at least a year from start of filming to release.

    I respectfully disagree. Once everything is in place, it'll be wheels on the ground. I mean how long does it take to film? Expect an announcement and press conference in December 2026

    Let's just say that's the case and you're correct. That would mean that they completely made the new Bond including finding the producers to make it, in around 2 years and 8 to 9 months. That is very fast indeed, considering they have to recast Bond in that time. David Heyman would be living up to his Harry Potter reputation of rapid production.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 26 Posts: 18,901
    Well if that news story about the red haired lad doing his tape was right it means they're looking at Bonds right now and have been doing for a number of months, plus they have a list of people they got tapes from/tested back after Spectre (Craig was saying he was done back then don't forget), so I'd guess by the time Dune starts to tail off they'll be pretty close to having a Bond, if not before.
  • edited August 26 Posts: 5,817
    I think it can be fall 2027 provided no delays on Dune 3. It gives Knight a year and change to pen the script and get some castings rolling for cameras to start rolling early 2027

    You think cameras will roll early 2027 and the film will premiere in fall? We're not on EON's schedule anymore, it's going to take at least a year from start of filming to release.

    I respectfully disagree. Once everything is in place, it'll be wheels on the ground. I mean how long does it take to film? Expect an announcement and press conference in December 2026

    Let's just say that's the case and you're correct. That would mean that they completely made the new Bond including finding the producers to make it, in around 2 years and 8 to 9 months. That is very fast indeed, considering they have to recast Bond in that time. David Heyman would be living up to his Harry Potter reputation of rapid production.

    It depends on preparation time and what they need to shoot, and ultimately edit (in the general post production sense - editing, sound, VFX etc. A lot of this runs congruent to the filming dependent on what they shoot).

    With Bond, I guess you're looking at roughly 6-7 months of shooting if we take most of the newer films as reference. They generally have a schedule to keep to. A few more months to finalise post-production can be added onto that.

    They could conceivably start filming in late 2026/early 2027 and have it out by November or possibly even October 2027.
    mtm wrote: »
    Well if that news story about the red haired lad doing his tape was right it means they're looking at Bonds right now and have been doing for a number of months, plus they have a list of people they got tapes from/tested back after Spectre (Craig was saying he was done back then don't forget), so I'd guess by the time Dune starts to tail off they'll be pretty close to having a Bond, if not before.

    I suspect in practice a lot of this stuff runs, to whatever extent, simultaneously (ie. early casting/line reading can happen as the script is being written, but maybe not official screen-tests. I don't see any reason why the producers wouldn't be looking at getting locations or potential dates for shoots in certain places even if they have initial ideas/a script isn't finalised yet).
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    There was an insane story about Spielberg leaving Jurassic park early so he could film Schindlers list during the winter, and he was in his fifties or late forties then. So it's not out of the question that Villeneuve could wrap Dune and be ready to start filming Bond by the start of 2027. Thats way more time than Spielberg had, and both those movies turned out to be masterpieces.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Nah, you’re just gonna have to wait til 2028.
  • edited 7:41am Posts: 608
    There was an insane story about Spielberg leaving Jurassic park early so he could film Schindlers list during the winter, and he was in his fifties or late forties then. So it's not out of the question that Villeneuve could wrap Dune and be ready to start filming Bond by the start of 2027.
    That's a bad comparison. By the beginning of 2027, Dune 3 will not only have been completely finished, it also will have been released.

    Villeneuve starting filming of Bond 26 at the beginning of 2026 would be like what Spielberg did when he made Jurassic Park and Schindler's list.

    By the way, I predict that filming of Bond 26 will start sometimes in 2026, and well before the end of 2026. So before the release of Dune 3. It's not like Villeneuve has never done this before. He started filming Blade Runner 2049 before the release of Arrival.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I think what James Bond fans around the world, can't wait to hear is, "Denis Villeneuve has wrapped Dune 3".
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 8:28am Posts: 18,901
    Heh! True! Dune fans too I guess :D
  • edited 8:38am Posts: 243
    Get Nolan in to finish Dune 3 and Villeneuve can start Bond 26 next week.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Heh! True! Dune fans too I guess :D

    Lol. True too.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I agree with everything above. Filming commencing in late 2026 with a fall 2027 release is completely feasible. We're also getting First Light in 2026 as well so if it ends up being good, there could be an overall buzz for Bond returning in both gaming and screen.

    I fail to see any scenario in which Amazon/MGM goes all of 2026 and 2027 with nothing to report. Especially with DV being ready whenever he is available following his Dune 3 commitments and hopefully Knight penning the script sooner rather than later.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    It is very big task cast new Bond (and rightly so) and it is the most interesting thing in the next one and i also think it delays everything what they are going to do after that.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I haven't been around lately to comment on new developments but having Villeneuve at the helm and Knight penning the script, I'm feeling surprisingly optimistic about the future. The biggest deciding factor for me now will obviously be who plays Bond.
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    Good to have you back @Creasy47
    Yes, I'm in the same boat, holding off in commenting too much until Bond is chosen! Not 100% happy with Villeneuve, but am more optimistic with Knight on board! Hopefully with him on board, there will be a completed script before cameras roll!!!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Good to have you back @Creasy47
    Yes, I'm in the same boat, holding off in commenting too much until Bond is chosen! Not 100% happy with Villeneuve, but am more optimistic with Knight on board! Hopefully with him on board, there will be a completed script before cameras roll!!!

    Happy to be back and good to see you!

    Yes, Villeneuve wouldn't have been my first pick either, but having someone so visionary hired to kick off a new era is pretty exciting too. Getting fully fresh blood in the script department is the most intriguing aspect for me currently. It really will all boil down to who's the next Bond though. I worry that might be one of the first big missteps but I really hope not.
  • Posts: 8,504
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Good to have you back @Creasy47
    Yes, I'm in the same boat, holding off in commenting too much until Bond is chosen! Not 100% happy with Villeneuve, but am more optimistic with Knight on board! Hopefully with him on board, there will be a completed script before cameras roll!!!

    Happy to be back and good to see you!

    Yes, Villeneuve wouldn't have been my first pick either, but having someone so visionary hired to kick off a new era is pretty exciting too. Getting fully fresh blood in the script department is the most intriguing aspect for me currently. It really will all boil down to who's the next Bond though. I worry that might be one of the first big missteps but I really hope not.

    We're on the same page! Some of the names bandied around are setting my teeth on edge!! 😬
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,131
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Good to have you back @Creasy47
    Yes, I'm in the same boat, holding off in commenting too much until Bond is chosen! Not 100% happy with Villeneuve, but am more optimistic with Knight on board! Hopefully with him on board, there will be a completed script before cameras roll!!!

    Happy to be back and good to see you!

    Yes, Villeneuve wouldn't have been my first pick either, but having someone so visionary hired to kick off a new era is pretty exciting too. Getting fully fresh blood in the script department is the most intriguing aspect for me currently. It really will all boil down to who's the next Bond though. I worry that might be one of the first big missteps but I really hope not.

    We're on the same page! Some of the names bandied around are setting my teeth on edge!! 😬

    Oh you and I both, absolutely! I know most of it can be taken with a heavy pinch of salt but they do quickly go from, "Hmm, that's an interesting choice" to, "Wow, that would be really awful."
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Good to have you back @Creasy47
    Yes, I'm in the same boat, holding off in commenting too much until Bond is chosen! Not 100% happy with Villeneuve, but am more optimistic with Knight on board! Hopefully with him on board, there will be a completed script before cameras roll!!!

    Happy to be back and good to see you!

    Yes, Villeneuve wouldn't have been my first pick either, but having someone so visionary hired to kick off a new era is pretty exciting too. Getting fully fresh blood in the script department is the most intriguing aspect for me currently. It really will all boil down to who's the next Bond though. I worry that might be one of the first big missteps but I really hope not.

    We're on the same page! Some of the names bandied around are setting my teeth on edge!! 😬
    +1 count me in on this page too. I hope Bond 7 is something traditionally and new at the same time.

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