Will the Producers Ever Listen to Fans? NO SPOILERS for 'NTTD'

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  • edited June 2022 Posts: 784
    Craig was an unconventional candidate, and the unconventional direction fit him perfectly. Trying to fit him into the traditional mold was a mistake I hope they refrain from with the new actor (unless the actor fits it of course).

    The fans can be damned myself included. We can rightfully berate films in hindsight, but those same criticisms might not hold strong for future iterations.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    If they simply hadn’t named the organization in QOS, it would have been a lot smoother revealing them as SPECTRE.
  • If they simply hadn’t named the organization in QOS, it would have been a lot smoother revealing them as SPECTRE.

    They should have just refrained from combining them. There is room for more than one villain in the world.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Before SP had come out, I had assumed what we would see is SPECTRE performing some kind of hostile takeover of Quantum which is why White was in hiding.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited June 2022 Posts: 3,336
    mtm wrote: »
    I'm sure you could have found plenty of fans who said they never wanted to see any of those things between QoS and SF too.
    Yeah, I was one of them, tbh! :D
  • edited June 2022 Posts: 784
    Before SP had come out, I had assumed what we would see is SPECTRE performing some kind of hostile takeover of Quantum which is why White was in hiding.

    Seeing it play out would have been more interesting than the pictures on the walls in Spectre.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 2022 Posts: 18,898
    Yes, a war between two Spectre-style organisations is worthy of a plot of film in itself.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, a war between two Spectre-style organisations is worthy of a plot of film in itself.

    All wars are like that.
  • edited June 2022 Posts: 7,250
    Before SP had come out, I had assumed what we would see is SPECTRE performing some kind of hostile takeover of Quantum which is why White was in hiding.

    I really wanted that.

    Something similar did happen in NTTD, though, with Safin terminating Spectre. So I'm happy the storyline of rival bad guys was eventually explored.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    To the producers: WELL DONE! I CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR SUCCESS!! LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE!!! I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT!!!! KEEP SURPRISING ME!!!!!
  • To the producers: WELL DONE! I CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR SUCCESS!! LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE!!! I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT!!!! KEEP SURPRISING ME!!!!!

    The last three sucked, but the two before that were among the best. We know you have it in you!
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Gosh speak for yourself.
  • Gosh speak for yourself.

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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Gosh speak for yourself.

    You mean ByRoyalDecree, not Gosh.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited August 24 Posts: 4,653
    CR: Mads Mikkelsen (2004) After release of King Arthur (whyle i haven't seen that movie yet back then) i said i like to see him as as villian, Henchman or something in between.
    QOS: Eye Gunbarrel at the end. The gunbarrel in trailer of Casino Royale let me think it is nerves eye and at it at the end of fanart trailer in 2007. We know now that it takes till NTTD opening spot returns whyle with Spectre it was blind one.
    SF: M taken in car. Goldfinger and hate for Dench M be big motivation.
    SP: Sam Smith (January 2014), Video message from Dench M after her death.

    Helicopter looking to a building in Fire. I sugest plot element that Ian Fleming kept from him self (A element from The Spy Who Loved Me that there can use). In Spectre it was Blofeld, in the scene that i sugest for the end of 007 in New York (2 partner: with The Hildebrand Rarity) it is hotel in New York (the hotel where Bond sleeping too) that is set on fire by one of the owners (chacter from Fleming) and it news helicopter. In this sugestion of my Bond 25 the movie end with escape of the owner in litle boat chase between him, FBI, CIA (include Felix) and last shot we see be behind the Statue of Liberty followed by James Bond will return in The Hildebrand Rarity. In that part 2 we see Belgium actor Matthias Schoenaerts as Hildebrand in flashbacks and it turn out that is something with him, Mr White and Dominic Greene. There are remours that Hildebrand is not death, but as you will understand that that Greene and Mr White keep his Rarity a life. It wil bring back Vesper, M and Mathis (& Mr White). It turn out that Mr White looking to Bond and Vesper behind a wall in Casino Royale get a tale too ( like Bond left Greene in desert). When The Hildebrand Rarity named in Spectre as name of safehouse that Bond 25 mabey indeed going to be named The Hildebrand Rarity. Title on a door i see as homage (Remember!) to Hildebrand, creater of savehouses in that case. It was Lucia her savetynet whyle Bond jump in to a savetynet with Madeline. Bond always return to M, Q, Walter or Felix for help. In other words: Bond hiding behind a person or his gun (Walter). We know from Mr White he created his own safe spots: Behind A Mirror (Controlroom in Spectre), Behind A Wall (Looking to Bond and Vesper in Casino Royale and 'L American in Spectre.), A closed door (Controlroom in NTTD).

    NTTD: Billie Elish (2017). For Bond 25 or Bond 26. Whyle i say mabey there thinking she wil be to young for Bond 25. I also said she is born in December 2001. Bonus: Her brother is born on 30 07 like me. Universal i whant them for for two reasens and one of those be that Universal logo changed in dot's. Second reasen is same reasen why Universal is a good match releasing Oppenheimer.

    I predict Dench M death three times after the release of QOS, with trow back to CR. Sort of i talking about ''Skyfall'' but not get finger on it in 2002/2003, 2008 (I have liked to see that James Bond movie play / start at earlier evening and work at midnight) and expect Bond 23 take place in China (Because of reference to Chinees wall in QOS maintitles) and middleeast country (wrong country, i said Egypt) who turn out Turkey. We know now that a lot of sand we see refer to Morocco desert in Spectre.

    After QOS, but inspecialy after SF there changed there opnion about things. There but them selfs with things in a corner because there whant to use Spectre/Blofeld. Rise/Return of Camile mabey as ''trater'' (She rise like snake out of the sand) or atleast she has something to hide (Janus symbol). There use it now more for Madeline (Snake dres in Spectre), there splitting girls in Skyfall maintitle. In Spectre there also created background story for her that we see in NTTD, but Camile also has background story that she told in QOS and part of that fixed by killing Medrano.

    Bond 26: With Universal Moon / Winter and Ice with NTTD i hoped that Bond 26 start with Universal logo changed in the sun. But not clear or Universal wil return or not. But even after Warner or better MGM logo as second logo the dots can stil turn yellow and stripes stil yellow white.

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    In November 2013 sugest Steven Knight as writer. Possible because of Dirty Pretty Things i expecting he give us QOS contuned and play with a finger on a painful place of the unknown. 2 plot points of the movie are stil a thing those days. Chiwetel Ejiofor who i seen in that movie was almoost in Spectre. Steven Knight in meantime wrote movies or tv series that earlier connect with hidden story elements of Daniel Craig era, then stepping down from it. Inspecialy Skyfall. Big difference i think will be this is that some symbol no longer won't be hidden.
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    Already for long time i like to see Sarah Gadon as (deaf) Bondgirl. She was seen in Bond 26 directer Denise Enemy, i hope he won't vergot her. Will Chiwetel Ejiofor and Steven Knight team up again.

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    I consider a return of Chiwetel Ejiofor already as adult version of a child we see in Casino Royale. In my opnion one of flaws of Casino Royale that never contuned.

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    There be remours/discussion that ''Eclips'' be title of Bond 25. What above shot refer to too. What if Bond 26 wil be named ''Eclips''. Starting with E and one word title like Denise Enemy and Sam Mendes Skyfall / Spectre (After Goldfinger, Thunderball, Moonraker, Octopussy, Goldeneye).

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    Earlier i sugest Eyes Set To Kill (Also started with E) and Sand In The Eyes as titles.

    Eon already trowing sand in the eyes with Die Another Day backslash and did it again with No Time To Die. What happend is that people ''Flip'' like a Flipper closet (Pinball machine on Tillt).


    Other fans:

    24 / TDK-TDKR style Bond movie. That's what there did with SF/Spectre. With DAD there whant to make there MI2/Spy Game movie.
    The credits Cary Fukunaga as Bond 25 directer should go to Pierce2Daniel (November 2015), whyle in first place he expect it be with new Bond. And fact that Danny Boyle first direct Bond 25.
    Christopher Waltz (as Blofeld)
    Hans Zimmer as composer

    Both:

    Martin Campbell return for another movie
    NTTD reference to Goldeneye and for long time fans whant another Goldeneye.

    Title: Quantum Of Solace whas hinted in trailer of Casino Royale, i did not know that it was Fleming title till other fans talking about that and mabey even that not happend before release of QOS, but there was nobody who said that going to be title of Bond 22. Predictions after CR be minimal, this started more after release of QOS.
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