Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • edited August 11 Posts: 574
    007HallY wrote: »
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    I’m not sure what’s going on with Mendes’ Beatles films. I know it’s four movies but surely there’s some overlap in the material they shoot and how much each lead is needed will vary? It’d be a big ask to only commit to those films for three years, but I guess it’s possible.

    Anyway, I’m just waiting for any surprise (or anti climax). Part of me gets a weird feeling it’ll end up being ATJ, although another part says it definitely won’t!

    I would really be surprised if ATJ gets it.

    So far the choices Amazon have made are elite.

    ATJ just doesn’t scream elite talent. Not even close. His name/CV/ talent seemingly isn’t the piece of the puzzle that fits the rest of the creative team.

    I have no idea who it could be, but ATJ doesn’t have the pedigree of the producers and director and writer. All seem to play in the gritty and commercial sandboxes and ATJ isn’t gritty, nor does he have that charisma and charm of a leading man. Craig may’ve played in smaller films, but he always seemingly had the talent of a character actor, with the charisma of a leading man. ATJ, as has been said, is usually exceptional at being forgettable. I’ve never seen him light the screen up, and he’s been plenty of years in this business!

    I could be wrong on him but when I look at what we have thus far, Pascal makes sense, as does Heyman, and combined they make an incredible creative duo. DV makes sense, and combined with his producers, it really is an envious team. And now Knight has been added. It really is mind blowing.

    Does ATJ make sense with the team that’s already been assembled? I don’t think so. And maybe one day soon, I’ll hafta eat my words, but I just don’t see it. Not after all these years of seeing this actor quickly fade from memory.

    Honestly, I agree. Although I do think despite his shortcomings I have an easier time seeing ATJ getting it than other lower profile actors. But ultimately it just comes down to that suspicious voice at the back of my head telling me it’s not impossible, however unlikely!

    Yes, ATJ is more likely than someone like Leo Suter (I have nothing against him, I just think he's an example of someone in the wrong orbit for this); ATJ is at least an experienced movie actor. But there's way better choices.

    For all our complaints about ATJ he is a relatively high profile actor and has his fans. Again, I’m not hugely convinced it’ll be him, but it’s not an impossibility by any stretch. And as much as I’ve seen a spin on the phrase ‘I can’t imagine x in a Villeneuve film’ from different posters, I think it’s worth mentioning it’ll be a Bond film ultimately (if anything it’s more worth asking who you can see leading a Heyman or Pascal film, if that in fact gives any answers, which I suspect it doesn’t). Even if Villeneuve has input it won’t be fully his choice who gets the role as it’ll likely be a decision which outlives his time in Bond. So ultimately he’ll direct whoever he has to.

    Personally, I'd rather have a veteran actor that isn't high profile, unlike say Henry Cavill, well, Henry Cavill.

    Well, maybe I should have said 'established' rather than high profile (he's certainly not a Henry Cavill in terms of fame, but he has a career as a character actor, even if a bit of it seems to have come from Bond rumours! His CV as an actor is nothing to sniff at no matter what I think of his acting/screen ability).

    ATJ is still fairly unknown, from what I understand. Yes, he's played in a superheroes movie, but he didn't play an iconic character Superman.

    I don’t think unknown’s the right way of describing him at all. Again, he’s not a Brad Pitt or even Henry Cavill, but a fair few would recognise him from things like Kick Ass, Godzilla, Bullet Train etc.

    Kraven the Hunter was a huge footballing own goal for ATJ. Unfortunately it was one of those films no actor wants on their resume. It was savaged by film critics and film goers. Also tanked hard at the box office. Has it killed off his chances of playing Bond? Probably not, but post Kraven my guess is had Eon remained producers they would have had major doubt casting ATJ.

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    bondywondy wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I’m not sure what’s going on with Mendes’ Beatles films. I know it’s four movies but surely there’s some overlap in the material they shoot and how much each lead is needed will vary? It’d be a big ask to only commit to those films for three years, but I guess it’s possible.

    Anyway, I’m just waiting for any surprise (or anti climax). Part of me gets a weird feeling it’ll end up being ATJ, although another part says it definitely won’t!

    I would really be surprised if ATJ gets it.

    So far the choices Amazon have made are elite.

    ATJ just doesn’t scream elite talent. Not even close. His name/CV/ talent seemingly isn’t the piece of the puzzle that fits the rest of the creative team.

    I have no idea who it could be, but ATJ doesn’t have the pedigree of the producers and director and writer. All seem to play in the gritty and commercial sandboxes and ATJ isn’t gritty, nor does he have that charisma and charm of a leading man. Craig may’ve played in smaller films, but he always seemingly had the talent of a character actor, with the charisma of a leading man. ATJ, as has been said, is usually exceptional at being forgettable. I’ve never seen him light the screen up, and he’s been plenty of years in this business!

    I could be wrong on him but when I look at what we have thus far, Pascal makes sense, as does Heyman, and combined they make an incredible creative duo. DV makes sense, and combined with his producers, it really is an envious team. And now Knight has been added. It really is mind blowing.

    Does ATJ make sense with the team that’s already been assembled? I don’t think so. And maybe one day soon, I’ll hafta eat my words, but I just don’t see it. Not after all these years of seeing this actor quickly fade from memory.

    Honestly, I agree. Although I do think despite his shortcomings I have an easier time seeing ATJ getting it than other lower profile actors. But ultimately it just comes down to that suspicious voice at the back of my head telling me it’s not impossible, however unlikely!

    Yes, ATJ is more likely than someone like Leo Suter (I have nothing against him, I just think he's an example of someone in the wrong orbit for this); ATJ is at least an experienced movie actor. But there's way better choices.

    For all our complaints about ATJ he is a relatively high profile actor and has his fans. Again, I’m not hugely convinced it’ll be him, but it’s not an impossibility by any stretch. And as much as I’ve seen a spin on the phrase ‘I can’t imagine x in a Villeneuve film’ from different posters, I think it’s worth mentioning it’ll be a Bond film ultimately (if anything it’s more worth asking who you can see leading a Heyman or Pascal film, if that in fact gives any answers, which I suspect it doesn’t). Even if Villeneuve has input it won’t be fully his choice who gets the role as it’ll likely be a decision which outlives his time in Bond. So ultimately he’ll direct whoever he has to.

    Personally, I'd rather have a veteran actor that isn't high profile, unlike say Henry Cavill, well, Henry Cavill.

    Well, maybe I should have said 'established' rather than high profile (he's certainly not a Henry Cavill in terms of fame, but he has a career as a character actor, even if a bit of it seems to have come from Bond rumours! His CV as an actor is nothing to sniff at no matter what I think of his acting/screen ability).

    ATJ is still fairly unknown, from what I understand. Yes, he's played in a superheroes movie, but he didn't play an iconic character Superman.

    I don’t think unknown’s the right way of describing him at all. Again, he’s not a Brad Pitt or even Henry Cavill, but a fair few would recognise him from things like Kick Ass, Godzilla, Bullet Train etc.

    Kraven the Hunter was a huge footballing own goal for ATJ. Unfortunately it was one of those films no actor wants on their resume. It was savaged by film critics and film goers. Also tanked hard at the box office. Has it killed off his chances of playing Bond? Probably not, but post Kraven my guess is had Eon remained producers they would have had major doubt casting ATJ.

    Oh, Bond actors have starred in some pretty bad flops prior to being cast (Brosnan was in a Razzie nominated film just before GE, Dalton had Sexette, and Craig had a few duds). I think it's just a case where if they want ATJ and believe he's the right man (which is questionable) then they'll pursue him and perhaps even fight for him. A single bad film doesn't define an actor.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    It’s interesting that both Nolan and Vaughn put him in small supporting roles in their films (Tenet and The King’s Man, respectively). I wonder what that was about, as they both were almost cameos?
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    Remember them leaked auditions a few months back? It'll probably be more or that - far from Bond. And yes, gimmie a bombastic stage reveal.
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    The casting process will be a whole thing, for sure. They'll have some sort of list of potential actors (which can plausibly be up to 200 actors). Then there's contacting them/their agents. They'll likely get most of them to read a bit from a previous Bond film and do self tapes or come into an office and read (basically what we saw the likes of Cavill and Worthington doing in those leaked audition tapes). Then they've got to whittle down who gets to screen tests and who gets to be Bond from there. That's not even mentioning any other considerations they'd discuss and what exactly those screen tests are (they'll probably have a fight scene for them to do, something like the FRWL scene to show how strong they are with female co-stars/the sexual side of Bond, and then something from the script they're developing I suppose).
  • Tom Brittney, 34, is set for the co-lead opposite J.K. Simmons in MGM's new crime gang series The Westies. This could potentially give his profile a massive boost, especially in the US. The downside I suppose would be that his commitment to the series could rule him out of any Bond involvement.

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Having never heard of him, I was completely unaware of Tom Brittney ; based on clips and interviews found on YouTube, he seems like an excellent suggestion.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Casting the next actor will be tricky since we don't know right now whether the next film will be a one-off or if they will be signed to a multi picture deal.

    Harris Dickerson is 29 so if they do consider an actor with a multi film run, I don't think they'll want an actor that will age out too soon. ATJ and Turner would be around 37 when they start filming and while they definitely look younger than they are, do they want to push an actor of that age into their mid to late 40s by the time they finish a potential film run? Personally, I like either Theo James or Richard Madden but both would be early 40s by the time filming starts. Heck, James is already 40. So that might rule out those two on the principle of age.

    I wish we had a Connery clone in which he was the perfect age. I mean I cannot believe he was 31-32 in DN.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Even at 40, James looks younger than Connery did at 31/32.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    @Last_Rat_Standing Speaking of Connery's clone, that should be Thomas Doherty.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    @Last_Rat_Standing Speaking of Connery's clone, that should be Thomas Doherty.

    Wow I just looked him up. Are we sure that Sean didn't have another child in his 60s? Is he even being considered? That is a spitting image
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    @Last_Rat_Standing Speaking of Connery's clone, that should be Thomas Doherty.

    Wow I just looked him up. Are we sure that Sean didn't have another child in his 60s? Is he even being considered? That is a spitting image

    Yeah. Doherty really looks like Connery...way too much! I don't know if he's being considered, though. But you knows...
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I’m not sure what’s going on with Mendes’ Beatles films. I know it’s four movies but surely there’s some overlap in the material they shoot and how much each lead is needed will vary? It’d be a big ask to only commit to those films for three years, but I guess it’s possible.

    Anyway, I’m just waiting for any surprise (or anti climax). Part of me gets a weird feeling it’ll end up being ATJ, although another part says it definitely won’t!

    I would really be surprised if ATJ gets it.

    So far the choices Amazon have made are elite.

    ATJ just doesn’t scream elite talent. Not even close. His name/CV/ talent seemingly isn’t the piece of the puzzle that fits the rest of the creative team.

    I have no idea who it could be, but ATJ doesn’t have the pedigree of the producers and director and writer. All seem to play in the gritty and commercial sandboxes and ATJ isn’t gritty, nor does he have that charisma and charm of a leading man. Craig may’ve played in smaller films, but he always seemingly had the talent of a character actor, with the charisma of a leading man. ATJ, as has been said, is usually exceptional at being forgettable. I’ve never seen him light the screen up, and he’s been plenty of years in this business!

    I could be wrong on him but when I look at what we have thus far, Pascal makes sense, as does Heyman, and combined they make an incredible creative duo. DV makes sense, and combined with his producers, it really is an envious team. And now Knight has been added. It really is mind blowing.

    Does ATJ make sense with the team that’s already been assembled? I don’t think so. And maybe one day soon, I’ll hafta eat my words, but I just don’t see it. Not after all these years of seeing this actor quickly fade from memory.

    Honestly, I agree. Although I do think despite his shortcomings I have an easier time seeing ATJ getting it than other lower profile actors. But ultimately it just comes down to that suspicious voice at the back of my head telling me it’s not impossible, however unlikely!

    Yes, ATJ is more likely than someone like Leo Suter (I have nothing against him, I just think he's an example of someone in the wrong orbit for this); ATJ is at least an experienced movie actor. But there's way better choices.

    For all our complaints about ATJ he is a relatively high profile actor and has his fans. Again, I’m not hugely convinced it’ll be him, but it’s not an impossibility by any stretch. And as much as I’ve seen a spin on the phrase ‘I can’t imagine x in a Villeneuve film’ from different posters, I think it’s worth mentioning it’ll be a Bond film ultimately (if anything it’s more worth asking who you can see leading a Heyman or Pascal film, if that in fact gives any answers, which I suspect it doesn’t). Even if Villeneuve has input it won’t be fully his choice who gets the role as it’ll likely be a decision which outlives his time in Bond. So ultimately he’ll direct whoever he has to.

    Personally, I'd rather have a veteran actor that isn't high profile, unlike say Henry Cavill, well, Henry Cavill.

    Well, maybe I should have said 'established' rather than high profile (he's certainly not a Henry Cavill in terms of fame, but he has a career as a character actor, even if a bit of it seems to have come from Bond rumours! His CV as an actor is nothing to sniff at no matter what I think of his acting/screen ability).

    ATJ is still fairly unknown, from what I understand. Yes, he's played in a superheroes movie, but he didn't play an iconic character Superman.

    I don’t think unknown’s the right way of describing him at all. Again, he’s not a Brad Pitt or even Henry Cavill, but a fair few would recognise him from things like Kick Ass, Godzilla, Bullet Train etc.

    I haven't seen the first two, but I did see Bullet Train. He was capable in it, but for me he was like Daniel Craig in Road to Perdition: the guy playing next to a bigger name (Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt). Not a bad place to be for an actor, but not really something that makes you known by the wider public.
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    Tom Brittney, 34, is set for the co-lead opposite J.K. Simmons in MGM's new crime gang series The Westies. This could potentially give his profile a massive boost, especially in the US. The downside I suppose would be that his commitment to the series could rule him out of any Bond involvement.

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    Interestingly, Tom Brittney took over the lead role in Grantchester after James Norton, who's also been mentioned several times in this thread. Both did alright in that series I think, but I've not seen Brittney in anything else. To me I think he kind of look like he could be Henry Cavill's younger brother!
  • Tom Brittney, 34, is set for the co-lead opposite J.K. Simmons in MGM's new crime gang series The Westies. This could potentially give his profile a massive boost, especially in the US. The downside I suppose would be that his commitment to the series could rule him out of any Bond involvement.

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    Interestingly, Tom Brittney took over the lead role in Grantchester after James Norton, who's also been mentioned several times in this thread. Both did alright in that series I think, but I've not seen Brittney in anything else. To me I think he kind of look like he could be Henry Cavill's younger brother!

    Yes, I'm beginning to wonder if there's a lot more to Brittney than the nice vicar in that cosy series. We know that he was one of the front runners for Superman and allegedly James Gunn has named him as one of his favourite actors. Can James Gunn be a Grantchester fan? This has led to speculation that Brittney could be cast as the DCU's Batman.

    I think his role in The Westies as a tough gangster may show if he's got the chops for Bond.


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    Looks like a Cavill clone, sounds like Cavill as well. Not a fan.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I'm fine if they look like Cavill. They just can't act like Cavill.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    echo wrote: »
    I'm fine if they look like Cavill. They just can't act like Cavill.

    I agree… If Adrian Paul had had the acting ability of Daniel Craig he would have been the perfect Bond.; Craig with Paul’s range would not have gotten an initial interview.
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    I always think Adrian Paul looks like Bobby Cannavale rather than Bond or Sean Connery. To be honest I can’t say if I’ve ever seen him in anything nor do I know how much of a potential he was. Anyway, an actor’s the full package, and what they look like is part of them. I mean, an uncharismatic but good looking actor is just a block of wood and not really suitable.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    talos7 wrote: »
    If Adrian Paul had had the acting ability of Daniel Craig he would have been the perfect Bond.
    Agreed. I totally get why he repeatedly topped all those 'next Bond' fan polls in the US in the late '90s, early '00s - looks, physique, physicality, height, charm, charisma all exactly right. Acting ability...ah, damn it...

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    talos7 wrote: »
    Craig with Paul’s range would not have gotten an initial interview.
    Again: yes, I doubt he'd've even have been on the radar, tbh.

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    Might just be me, but I really don't see much Bond in this guy. Is it a 90s thing? Maybe I just don’t have that connection to his films… Again, looks like Bobby Cannavale’s brother to me. Pretty generic looking American tv star look (he’s British though?) Good looking guy but not necessarily striking or very memorable, at least compared to Brosnan and Craig.

    I suppose maybe he’s the Aidan Turner or Clive Owen of his time in terms of Bond. Weird to me though. Really don’t see it even from pictures…
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think he definitely had a Connery look, I remember thinking it at the time.
    But being a Connery lookalike almost makes you guaranteed not to get it, regardless of how good you are.

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    Maybe I need to watch some of his films. I’m just not seeing it… a sort of budget Steven Seagal/Bobby Cannavale mix.

    Honestly though, if he had the charisma and swagger in his roles I’d say audition him at this stage… it’s tricky gauging him just from photos… but he doesn’t seem to have much going for him in terms of performance from what you guys say. I’m just not seeing this guy as having the ideal Bond look… maybe an adequate Bond look with the right actor, but nothing to aspire to.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    He looked like Connery. He was good in the Highlander tv series, very adept physically with his martial arts training making him an obvious action lead, and he had a certain gravitas. I can see why people would have suggested him. However, I noticed in the show that Peter Wingfield (as supporting character Methos) was often more interesting on screen - I think he was more expressive than the generally dour Adrian Paul - and that is not a good sign if you’re looking for the next Bond. Good enough for tv, probably not good enough for major movies.

    I did think he looked the part, though.
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That's very interesting, thank you; it's a bit murky to try and figure out where they're getting that from, but the actor is so obscure that I tend to believe it.
    The most interesting part really is that they're testing actors (although it's unclear when this happened I guess); not entirely surprising I suppose, but heartening to know it's actually happening.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited 6:23pm Posts: 3,316
    007HallY wrote: »
    I really don't see much Bond in this guy.
    So, the guy on the right doesn't look like James Bond...

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    But these guys do?
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    Really?
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    mtm wrote: »

    That's very interesting, thank you; it's a bit murky to try and figure out where they're getting that from, but the actor is so obscure that I tend to believe it.
    The most interesting part really is that they're testing actors (although it's unclear when this happened I guess); not entirely surprising I suppose, but heartening to know it's actually happening.

    It's in the mag issue that's printed, so THR have likely known about it for at least a few days/weeks.

    His Insta shows him very fit and much slimmer than that THR pic currently.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    mtm wrote: »

    That's very interesting, thank you; it's a bit murky to try and figure out where they're getting that from, but the actor is so obscure that I tend to believe it.
    The most interesting part really is that they're testing actors (although it's unclear when this happened I guess); not entirely surprising I suppose, but heartening to know it's actually happening.

    I know nothing about him and thought the picture on the left was for a Valentine Zukovsky origin story
  • edited 6:58pm Posts: 5,738
    mtm wrote: »

    That's very interesting, thank you; it's a bit murky to try and figure out where they're getting that from, but the actor is so obscure that I tend to believe it.
    The most interesting part really is that they're testing actors (although it's unclear when this happened I guess); not entirely surprising I suppose, but heartening to know it's actually happening.

    Oh good, the eighth choice for Bond has supposedly auditioned. Incidentally If he becomes Bond I’ll happily be wrong!
    Venutius wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I really don't see much Bond in this guy.
    So, the guy on the right doesn't look like James Bond...

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    But these guys do?
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    Really?

    I guess… sort of…. I guess Paul has a Connery look there with the lighting… but then again I think Craig and Moore look different to Connery… meh…

    It’s tricky to say as so much of Connery’s look is connected for me with his Bond performance (ie. The wry smile of his duck’s mouth, the way his way too thick eyebrows move with the intonation of his lines etc). I really don’t think you can look at a picture if an actor and decide on that alone how suited they are to a role. I see way more Bondian personality from Callum Turner, but only because I’ve seen the voice and face move from the photograph!
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