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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited 10:52am Posts: 574
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    I’m not sure what’s going on with Mendes’ Beatles films. I know it’s four movies but surely there’s some overlap in the material they shoot and how much each lead is needed will vary? It’d be a big ask to only commit to those films for three years, but I guess it’s possible.

    Anyway, I’m just waiting for any surprise (or anti climax). Part of me gets a weird feeling it’ll end up being ATJ, although another part says it definitely won’t!

    I would really be surprised if ATJ gets it.

    So far the choices Amazon have made are elite.

    ATJ just doesn’t scream elite talent. Not even close. His name/CV/ talent seemingly isn’t the piece of the puzzle that fits the rest of the creative team.

    I have no idea who it could be, but ATJ doesn’t have the pedigree of the producers and director and writer. All seem to play in the gritty and commercial sandboxes and ATJ isn’t gritty, nor does he have that charisma and charm of a leading man. Craig may’ve played in smaller films, but he always seemingly had the talent of a character actor, with the charisma of a leading man. ATJ, as has been said, is usually exceptional at being forgettable. I’ve never seen him light the screen up, and he’s been plenty of years in this business!

    I could be wrong on him but when I look at what we have thus far, Pascal makes sense, as does Heyman, and combined they make an incredible creative duo. DV makes sense, and combined with his producers, it really is an envious team. And now Knight has been added. It really is mind blowing.

    Does ATJ make sense with the team that’s already been assembled? I don’t think so. And maybe one day soon, I’ll hafta eat my words, but I just don’t see it. Not after all these years of seeing this actor quickly fade from memory.

    Honestly, I agree. Although I do think despite his shortcomings I have an easier time seeing ATJ getting it than other lower profile actors. But ultimately it just comes down to that suspicious voice at the back of my head telling me it’s not impossible, however unlikely!

    Yes, ATJ is more likely than someone like Leo Suter (I have nothing against him, I just think he's an example of someone in the wrong orbit for this); ATJ is at least an experienced movie actor. But there's way better choices.

    For all our complaints about ATJ he is a relatively high profile actor and has his fans. Again, I’m not hugely convinced it’ll be him, but it’s not an impossibility by any stretch. And as much as I’ve seen a spin on the phrase ‘I can’t imagine x in a Villeneuve film’ from different posters, I think it’s worth mentioning it’ll be a Bond film ultimately (if anything it’s more worth asking who you can see leading a Heyman or Pascal film, if that in fact gives any answers, which I suspect it doesn’t). Even if Villeneuve has input it won’t be fully his choice who gets the role as it’ll likely be a decision which outlives his time in Bond. So ultimately he’ll direct whoever he has to.

    Personally, I'd rather have a veteran actor that isn't high profile, unlike say Henry Cavill, well, Henry Cavill.

    Well, maybe I should have said 'established' rather than high profile (he's certainly not a Henry Cavill in terms of fame, but he has a career as a character actor, even if a bit of it seems to have come from Bond rumours! His CV as an actor is nothing to sniff at no matter what I think of his acting/screen ability).

    ATJ is still fairly unknown, from what I understand. Yes, he's played in a superheroes movie, but he didn't play an iconic character Superman.

    I don’t think unknown’s the right way of describing him at all. Again, he’s not a Brad Pitt or even Henry Cavill, but a fair few would recognise him from things like Kick Ass, Godzilla, Bullet Train etc.

    Kraven the Hunter was a huge footballing own goal for ATJ. Unfortunately it was one of those films no actor wants on their resume. It was savaged by film critics and film goers. Also tanked hard at the box office. Has it killed off his chances of playing Bond? Probably not, but post Kraven my guess is had Eon remained producers they would have had major doubt casting ATJ.

  • 007HallY007HallY
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    bondywondy wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I’m not sure what’s going on with Mendes’ Beatles films. I know it’s four movies but surely there’s some overlap in the material they shoot and how much each lead is needed will vary? It’d be a big ask to only commit to those films for three years, but I guess it’s possible.

    Anyway, I’m just waiting for any surprise (or anti climax). Part of me gets a weird feeling it’ll end up being ATJ, although another part says it definitely won’t!

    I would really be surprised if ATJ gets it.

    So far the choices Amazon have made are elite.

    ATJ just doesn’t scream elite talent. Not even close. His name/CV/ talent seemingly isn’t the piece of the puzzle that fits the rest of the creative team.

    I have no idea who it could be, but ATJ doesn’t have the pedigree of the producers and director and writer. All seem to play in the gritty and commercial sandboxes and ATJ isn’t gritty, nor does he have that charisma and charm of a leading man. Craig may’ve played in smaller films, but he always seemingly had the talent of a character actor, with the charisma of a leading man. ATJ, as has been said, is usually exceptional at being forgettable. I’ve never seen him light the screen up, and he’s been plenty of years in this business!

    I could be wrong on him but when I look at what we have thus far, Pascal makes sense, as does Heyman, and combined they make an incredible creative duo. DV makes sense, and combined with his producers, it really is an envious team. And now Knight has been added. It really is mind blowing.

    Does ATJ make sense with the team that’s already been assembled? I don’t think so. And maybe one day soon, I’ll hafta eat my words, but I just don’t see it. Not after all these years of seeing this actor quickly fade from memory.

    Honestly, I agree. Although I do think despite his shortcomings I have an easier time seeing ATJ getting it than other lower profile actors. But ultimately it just comes down to that suspicious voice at the back of my head telling me it’s not impossible, however unlikely!

    Yes, ATJ is more likely than someone like Leo Suter (I have nothing against him, I just think he's an example of someone in the wrong orbit for this); ATJ is at least an experienced movie actor. But there's way better choices.

    For all our complaints about ATJ he is a relatively high profile actor and has his fans. Again, I’m not hugely convinced it’ll be him, but it’s not an impossibility by any stretch. And as much as I’ve seen a spin on the phrase ‘I can’t imagine x in a Villeneuve film’ from different posters, I think it’s worth mentioning it’ll be a Bond film ultimately (if anything it’s more worth asking who you can see leading a Heyman or Pascal film, if that in fact gives any answers, which I suspect it doesn’t). Even if Villeneuve has input it won’t be fully his choice who gets the role as it’ll likely be a decision which outlives his time in Bond. So ultimately he’ll direct whoever he has to.

    Personally, I'd rather have a veteran actor that isn't high profile, unlike say Henry Cavill, well, Henry Cavill.

    Well, maybe I should have said 'established' rather than high profile (he's certainly not a Henry Cavill in terms of fame, but he has a career as a character actor, even if a bit of it seems to have come from Bond rumours! His CV as an actor is nothing to sniff at no matter what I think of his acting/screen ability).

    ATJ is still fairly unknown, from what I understand. Yes, he's played in a superheroes movie, but he didn't play an iconic character Superman.

    I don’t think unknown’s the right way of describing him at all. Again, he’s not a Brad Pitt or even Henry Cavill, but a fair few would recognise him from things like Kick Ass, Godzilla, Bullet Train etc.

    Kraven the Hunter was a huge footballing own goal for ATJ. Unfortunately it was one of those films no actor wants on their resume. It was savaged by film critics and film goers. Also tanked hard at the box office. Has it killed off his chances of playing Bond? Probably not, but post Kraven my guess is had Eon remained producers they would have had major doubt casting ATJ.

    Oh, Bond actors have starred in some pretty bad flops prior to being cast (Brosnan was in a Razzie nominated film just before GE, Dalton had Sexette, and Craig had a few duds). I think it's just a case where if they want ATJ and believe he's the right man (which is questionable) then they'll pursue him and perhaps even fight for him. A single bad film doesn't define an actor.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
    Posts: 1,094
    It’s interesting that both Nolan and Vaughn put him in small supporting roles in their films (Tenet and The King’s Man, respectively). I wonder what that was about, as they both were almost cameos?
  • dewiparrydewiparry
    Posts: 228
    Remember them leaked auditions a few months back? It'll probably be more or that - far from Bond. And yes, gimmie a bombastic stage reveal.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited 4:11pm Posts: 5,729
    The casting process will be a whole thing, for sure. They'll have some sort of list of potential actors (which can plausibly be up to 200 actors). Then there's contacting them/their agents. They'll likely get most of them to read a bit from a previous Bond film and do self tapes or come into an office and read (basically what we saw the likes of Cavill and Worthington doing in those leaked audition tapes). Then they've got to whittle down who gets to screen tests and who gets to be Bond from there. That's not even mentioning any other considerations they'd discuss and what exactly those screen tests are (they'll probably have a fight scene for them to do, something like the FRWL scene to show how strong they are with female co-stars/the sexual side of Bond, and then something from the script they're developing I suppose).
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