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Would you rather watch the films in sequential order or randomly based on mood or whimsical choice?

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  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    I’ll go with TLD, though I think Barry has several better ones above both of those - and yet they’re both still very good.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    Definitely TLD, really love what Barry did with it, and was a big fan of The Pretenders, so that was a bonus!
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    I've long thought of TLD as a FRWL for the 1980s. Both films feature a defecting Soviet military intelligence officer using a blond defector who falls for Bond while trying to increase Cold War tensions between the British and the Russians. The officer is added by an Aryan henchman who stalks around committing assassinations. And the 2 films bookend master composer John Barry's tenure as a Bond composer.

    Love both scores but since TLD is my 2nd favorite Barry Bond score(sandwiched between YOLT and OHMSS) I'll listen to TLD.

    There simply is no bad Barry Bond score IMHO. For that matter I've yet to hear a bad Barry non-Bond score either.

  • mattjoesmattjoes Back to Joe Don.
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    Overall, I like TLD better because I find the atmospheric passages of FRWL, those parts where the music has to create an ambience and sustain it, to be less interesting. However, I've listened to TLD enough times, and lately I find myself discovering the hitherto overlooked or undervalued pleasures of the FRWL score. So today, I'd rather listen to FRWL. It has a masterful rendition of the James Bond theme (with bongos); the lyrical and exciting title music, with that genius transition into the Bond theme; the sinister piece that underlines Kronsteen's explanation of his plan (featuring that clinical SPECTRE motif); the hypnotic ostinatos of Tania Meets Klebb; the life-and-death drama of Girl Trouble; the 007 theme; some gorgeous renditions of FRWL (a theme John Barry didn't even compose himself) like the music box version on the train; that genius, mechanical-sounding piece for the Orient Express (by association it makes me think of Richard Rodney Bennett's waltz in Murder on the Orient Express); the brutal brass and off-kilter rhythm in the second half of Death of Grant; and some lovely, extremely brief cues like the "about that lunch" transition, and the driving pizzicato heard when Klebb declares "the cold war will not remain cold much longer." In its heavy use of heavy timpani, this score has echoes of Zulu, and like Zulu, it is quite masterful.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes I know what you mean about being a bit reminded of Murder on the Orient Express. And also thanks a lot: that’s stuck in my head now! :D
  • mattjoesmattjoes Back to Joe Don.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes I know what you mean about being a bit reminded of Murder on the Orient Express. And also thanks a lot: that’s stuck in my head now! :D

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  • ColonelSunColonelSun
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    Love the score for FRWL, so it wins for me, although I think Barry did great work on TLD.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    All right, both films get some love. I always thought TLD was on similar to OHMSS or is it the other way around? Both scores really add punch to the action scenes.

    Okay lets compare another two soundtracks not composed by Barry!

    Would you rather listen to the soundtrack of LALD OR LTK?

    Both films feature drugs as the main plot point. Both feature Bond out of his element. These films were also scored by a new composer to the series, but certainly not new to making music.

    Sir George Martin had his go with Bond and a new Bond to boot. Martin's score seems to hit some good notes and fits with the time and style of the movie. Very different from a Barry soundtrack yet somehow it works.

    OR

    Michael Kamen tried his hand with Bond. Kamen was an in demand composer at the time having done the soundtracks for the Lethal Weapon series, and the first three Die Hard movies. His soundtrack has acoustic feels and plays into the Latin American setting of the film.

    Which one are you preferring to listen to?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Back to Joe Don.
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    Oh, I choose LALD. It's more up my alley because it's a highly melodic score. LTK is a more demanding listen.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited July 30 Posts: 18,091
    For me, LTK is a decent score when watching the film, but not one I would often pick out and actually listen to. LALD on the other hand, being highly melodic as @mattjoes mentions, is a score I love to put on. It's up there with John Barry's work, in my opinion.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I love LTK. But it's LALD for me.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    LALD easily for me too.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited July 31 Posts: 7,705
    Tough one, I can see why one would find LALD an easier listen, but LTK takes me back to a film I really love. The Latin American motives are also very enjoyable, I'll be in the minority to vote for LTK here.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    LALD for me.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    LTK for me!
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    LALD for me! My first ever Bond movie! 8-X :-bd
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    LTK ain't bad. But LALD is, at the very least, the best non-Barry soundtrack of the entire series. And the movie is also better (IMO, of course) than LTK (which also is not bad at all, but one has to choose).
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    While Michael Kamen's score is a highlight of LTK for me, I still have to go with LALD and Sir. George Martin.
  • cooperman2cooperman2 Uk
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    If I'm down or had a bad day I'll stick LALD on the cd player and it cheers me up tremendously. It's got such a great 70's vibe and fits the movie perfectly. Tracks don't get much better than "Trespassers will be eaten". Easily the best non Barry score
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Likewise, nothing against LTK and it is good, but it's not really one that rewards a standalone listen as much as LALD does.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Good stuff! I tend to think some soundtracks can be listened to more easily or with a greater appreciation away from the film. Sounds like LALD has that going for it over LTK. I own LTK on vinyl and it's an original pressing. LOL!

    Okay how about this one...

    Would you rather watch the films in sequential order OR watch based on mood or whimsical selection?

    While the earlier films don't have a great deal of continuity or story elements that carry over from film to film does it still compel you to watch them in order? The Craig films might be more enjoyable in order as the story bleeds through to the other adventures.

    Or is it a more enjoyable experience to just watch based on current mood or feeling? Jumping around from adventure to adventure with no real plan or thought as to why or what film you'd watch next?

  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Early Connery up until OHMSS: sequential order. Craig era, sequential order. Then random for the others.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I've watched them chronologically many times, but these days just randomly shifting actors, eras and styles just appeals a bit more to me. For variety's sake. One day TMWTGG, the next day LTK.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Used to watch them all in order, of course, but these days it's probably just for the anniversaries. i.e. this year it might be AVTAK; GE; SP; TB.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    Random depending on what I'm in the mood for
  • bondsumbondsum
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    Just early Connery up until OHMSS for me, and in no particular order or preference.

    In saying that, I still have a soft spot for LALD.

    I like CR but as I've already seen it multiple times, I'm in no immediate rush to revisit it again. The rest of the Craig era I'm not too sold on or bothered about.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    Outside of the Craig era, I don't have a particular order for viewing - with one notable exception.

    I first saw, YOLT and OHMSS on the large screen as part of a double feature back in the early 1980s. So, in my memory, they are forever linked. Plus;
    "... You've had two years to run him down" does sort of imply that one follows the other.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Dwayne wrote: »
    Outside of the Craig era, I don't have a particular order for viewing - with one notable exception.

    I first saw, YOLT and OHMSS on the large screen as part of a double feature back in the early 1980s. So, in my memory, they are forever linked. Plus;
    "... You've had two years to run him down" does sort of imply that one follows the other.

    I always liked that little nod to the previous film.

    I also liked the dialogue in DAF.

    Sir Donald: "You've been on holiday I understand. Relaxing I trust."

    Bond "Hardly relaxing but most satisfying."

    Always liked that those lines could refer to him hunting Blofeld, or describing Connery's time away from the series.
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