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  • Posts: 2,234
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pascal and Heyman just scream wrong for bond i am surprised i am the only one who sees ghosbusters 2016 and barbie and suddenly gets worried

    Don't know enough about Heyman, but Amy Pascal's rather juvenile attitude revealed in her emails on previous projects, such as Ghostbusters 2016 and Spectre, as well as NOTORIOUS WAY OF TYPING IN CAP, really makes me question her intelligence and usefulness.

    For me it’s all about Heyman. He’ll save the day.

    Heymen did produce the Harry Potter films and paddington but both of those as far as i know dont require an on hand producer the way Bond does/did

    Again love or hate Babs but she was involved in bond since what 1981ish as was most of the EON family so unless you were a Connery purist you cant deny that all our fave films were EON based


    I cant shake the feeling Amazon will give us a bizare never say never again kind of alternate universe bond film.

    Look denis is a step in the right direction but he is also an EON hold over

    I hope it works out and i will see it but honestly unless something drastic changes first light is the only thing of 007 i am excited about

    Well, we've had that for the last 30 years.

    Classic Bond ended with LTK.

    Even NSNA has Connery and Fleming, which is more than many modern movies have.

    And I don't know why being a Connery purist is any worse than being an EON purist.

    The brosnan and Craig eras had films based off the fleming books so unsure what you are talking about

    Craig? sometimes, Brosnan not so much. At least from a purist point of view.

    LTK was already a movie made with leftovers, but after that there's almost nothing left.

    Yes, we have Casino Royale and films loosely "inspired" by Fleming at best.


  • Posts: 9,993
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pascal and Heyman just scream wrong for bond i am surprised i am the only one who sees ghosbusters 2016 and barbie and suddenly gets worried

    Don't know enough about Heyman, but Amy Pascal's rather juvenile attitude revealed in her emails on previous projects, such as Ghostbusters 2016 and Spectre, as well as NOTORIOUS WAY OF TYPING IN CAP, really makes me question her intelligence and usefulness.

    For me it’s all about Heyman. He’ll save the day.

    Heymen did produce the Harry Potter films and paddington but both of those as far as i know dont require an on hand producer the way Bond does/did

    Again love or hate Babs but she was involved in bond since what 1981ish as was most of the EON family so unless you were a Connery purist you cant deny that all our fave films were EON based


    I cant shake the feeling Amazon will give us a bizare never say never again kind of alternate universe bond film.

    Look denis is a step in the right direction but he is also an EON hold over

    I hope it works out and i will see it but honestly unless something drastic changes first light is the only thing of 007 i am excited about

    Well, we've had that for the last 30 years.

    Classic Bond ended with LTK.

    Even NSNA has Connery and Fleming, which is more than many modern movies have.

    And I don't know why being a Connery purist is any worse than being an EON purist.

    The brosnan and Craig eras had films based off the fleming books so unsure what you are talking about

    Craig? sometimes, Brosnan not so much. At least from a purist point of view.

    LTK was already a movie made with leftovers, but after that there's almost nothing left.

    Yes, we have Casino Royale and films loosely "inspired" by Fleming at best.


    Thats not entirely true

    Goldeneye was based on Moonraker
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    The world is not enough is based on for your eyes only (short story)
    Die another day is moonraker again
    Casino Royale is well casino royale
    Quantum of solace is a weird mixture of that short story and live and let die
    Skyfall is based on the man with the golden gun
    Spectre is based on Octopussy and thunderball
    And
    No time to die is an adaptation of You Only Live Twice

    All fleming works and yeah
  • Posts: 2,234
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pascal and Heyman just scream wrong for bond i am surprised i am the only one who sees ghosbusters 2016 and barbie and suddenly gets worried

    Don't know enough about Heyman, but Amy Pascal's rather juvenile attitude revealed in her emails on previous projects, such as Ghostbusters 2016 and Spectre, as well as NOTORIOUS WAY OF TYPING IN CAP, really makes me question her intelligence and usefulness.

    For me it’s all about Heyman. He’ll save the day.

    Heymen did produce the Harry Potter films and paddington but both of those as far as i know dont require an on hand producer the way Bond does/did

    Again love or hate Babs but she was involved in bond since what 1981ish as was most of the EON family so unless you were a Connery purist you cant deny that all our fave films were EON based


    I cant shake the feeling Amazon will give us a bizare never say never again kind of alternate universe bond film.

    Look denis is a step in the right direction but he is also an EON hold over

    I hope it works out and i will see it but honestly unless something drastic changes first light is the only thing of 007 i am excited about

    Well, we've had that for the last 30 years.

    Classic Bond ended with LTK.

    Even NSNA has Connery and Fleming, which is more than many modern movies have.

    And I don't know why being a Connery purist is any worse than being an EON purist.

    The brosnan and Craig eras had films based off the fleming books so unsure what you are talking about

    Craig? sometimes, Brosnan not so much. At least from a purist point of view.

    LTK was already a movie made with leftovers, but after that there's almost nothing left.

    Yes, we have Casino Royale and films loosely "inspired" by Fleming at best.


    Thats not entirely true

    Goldeneye was based on Moonraker
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    The world is not enough is based on for your eyes only (short story)
    Die another day is moonraker again
    Casino Royale is well casino royale
    Quantum of solace is a weird mixture of that short story and live and let die
    Skyfall is based on the man with the golden gun
    Spectre is based on Octopussy and thunderball
    And
    No time to die is an adaptation of You Only Live Twice

    All fleming works and yeah

    Then NSNA is a truly faithful adaptation.
  • Posts: 9,993
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pascal and Heyman just scream wrong for bond i am surprised i am the only one who sees ghosbusters 2016 and barbie and suddenly gets worried

    Don't know enough about Heyman, but Amy Pascal's rather juvenile attitude revealed in her emails on previous projects, such as Ghostbusters 2016 and Spectre, as well as NOTORIOUS WAY OF TYPING IN CAP, really makes me question her intelligence and usefulness.

    For me it’s all about Heyman. He’ll save the day.

    Heymen did produce the Harry Potter films and paddington but both of those as far as i know dont require an on hand producer the way Bond does/did

    Again love or hate Babs but she was involved in bond since what 1981ish as was most of the EON family so unless you were a Connery purist you cant deny that all our fave films were EON based


    I cant shake the feeling Amazon will give us a bizare never say never again kind of alternate universe bond film.

    Look denis is a step in the right direction but he is also an EON hold over

    I hope it works out and i will see it but honestly unless something drastic changes first light is the only thing of 007 i am excited about

    Well, we've had that for the last 30 years.

    Classic Bond ended with LTK.

    Even NSNA has Connery and Fleming, which is more than many modern movies have.

    And I don't know why being a Connery purist is any worse than being an EON purist.

    The brosnan and Craig eras had films based off the fleming books so unsure what you are talking about

    Craig? sometimes, Brosnan not so much. At least from a purist point of view.

    LTK was already a movie made with leftovers, but after that there's almost nothing left.

    Yes, we have Casino Royale and films loosely "inspired" by Fleming at best.


    Thats not entirely true

    Goldeneye was based on Moonraker
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    The world is not enough is based on for your eyes only (short story)
    Die another day is moonraker again
    Casino Royale is well casino royale
    Quantum of solace is a weird mixture of that short story and live and let die
    Skyfall is based on the man with the golden gun
    Spectre is based on Octopussy and thunderball
    And
    No time to die is an adaptation of You Only Live Twice

    All fleming works and yeah

    Then NSNA is a truly faithful adaptation.

    Who said it wasnt?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,857
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pascal and Heyman just scream wrong for bond i am surprised i am the only one who sees ghosbusters 2016 and barbie and suddenly gets worried

    Don't know enough about Heyman, but Amy Pascal's rather juvenile attitude revealed in her emails on previous projects, such as Ghostbusters 2016 and Spectre, as well as NOTORIOUS WAY OF TYPING IN CAP, really makes me question her intelligence and usefulness.

    For me it’s all about Heyman. He’ll save the day.

    Heymen did produce the Harry Potter films and paddington but both of those as far as i know dont require an on hand producer the way Bond does/did

    Again love or hate Babs but she was involved in bond since what 1981ish as was most of the EON family so unless you were a Connery purist you cant deny that all our fave films were EON based


    I cant shake the feeling Amazon will give us a bizare never say never again kind of alternate universe bond film.

    Look denis is a step in the right direction but he is also an EON hold over

    I hope it works out and i will see it but honestly unless something drastic changes first light is the only thing of 007 i am excited about

    Well, we've had that for the last 30 years.

    Classic Bond ended with LTK.

    Even NSNA has Connery and Fleming, which is more than many modern movies have.

    And I don't know why being a Connery purist is any worse than being an EON purist.

    The brosnan and Craig eras had films based off the fleming books so unsure what you are talking about

    Craig? sometimes, Brosnan not so much. At least from a purist point of view.

    LTK was already a movie made with leftovers, but after that there's almost nothing left.

    Yes, we have Casino Royale and films loosely "inspired" by Fleming at best.


    Thats not entirely true

    Goldeneye was based on Moonraker
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    The world is not enough is based on for your eyes only (short story)
    Die another day is moonraker again
    Casino Royale is well casino royale
    Quantum of solace is a weird mixture of that short story and live and let die
    Skyfall is based on the man with the golden gun
    Spectre is based on Octopussy and thunderball
    And
    No time to die is an adaptation of You Only Live Twice

    All fleming works and yeah

    QoS is Moonraker again again
  • Posts: 9,993
    echo wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pascal and Heyman just scream wrong for bond i am surprised i am the only one who sees ghosbusters 2016 and barbie and suddenly gets worried

    Don't know enough about Heyman, but Amy Pascal's rather juvenile attitude revealed in her emails on previous projects, such as Ghostbusters 2016 and Spectre, as well as NOTORIOUS WAY OF TYPING IN CAP, really makes me question her intelligence and usefulness.

    For me it’s all about Heyman. He’ll save the day.

    Heymen did produce the Harry Potter films and paddington but both of those as far as i know dont require an on hand producer the way Bond does/did

    Again love or hate Babs but she was involved in bond since what 1981ish as was most of the EON family so unless you were a Connery purist you cant deny that all our fave films were EON based


    I cant shake the feeling Amazon will give us a bizare never say never again kind of alternate universe bond film.

    Look denis is a step in the right direction but he is also an EON hold over

    I hope it works out and i will see it but honestly unless something drastic changes first light is the only thing of 007 i am excited about

    Well, we've had that for the last 30 years.

    Classic Bond ended with LTK.

    Even NSNA has Connery and Fleming, which is more than many modern movies have.

    And I don't know why being a Connery purist is any worse than being an EON purist.

    The brosnan and Craig eras had films based off the fleming books so unsure what you are talking about

    Craig? sometimes, Brosnan not so much. At least from a purist point of view.

    LTK was already a movie made with leftovers, but after that there's almost nothing left.

    Yes, we have Casino Royale and films loosely "inspired" by Fleming at best.


    Thats not entirely true

    Goldeneye was based on Moonraker
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    The world is not enough is based on for your eyes only (short story)
    Die another day is moonraker again
    Casino Royale is well casino royale
    Quantum of solace is a weird mixture of that short story and live and let die
    Skyfall is based on the man with the golden gun
    Spectre is based on Octopussy and thunderball
    And
    No time to die is an adaptation of You Only Live Twice

    All fleming works and yeah

    QoS is Moonraker again again

    How so
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,784
    I thought SF was a more modern TWINE.
  • Posts: 9,993
    I thought SF was a more modern TWINE.

    Silva was Fleming’s Scaramanga
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,784
    Risico007 wrote: »
    I thought SF was a more modern TWINE.

    Silva was Fleming’s Scaramanga

    Yeah. You could say that. But I think SF is still a modern TWINE.
  • Posts: 15,894
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pascal and Heyman just scream wrong for bond i am surprised i am the only one who sees ghosbusters 2016 and barbie and suddenly gets worried

    Don't know enough about Heyman, but Amy Pascal's rather juvenile attitude revealed in her emails on previous projects, such as Ghostbusters 2016 and Spectre, as well as NOTORIOUS WAY OF TYPING IN CAP, really makes me question her intelligence and usefulness.

    I know someone who knows Pascal personally. They've said that Pascal is competent but a little coo-coo.

    Some creative people can be a little weird and coo-coo. But peoplecl in her position, I'd expect them to reign in the creative people and be more focused.
  • edited July 18 Posts: 2,234
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Pascal and Heyman just scream wrong for bond i am surprised i am the only one who sees ghosbusters 2016 and barbie and suddenly gets worried

    Don't know enough about Heyman, but Amy Pascal's rather juvenile attitude revealed in her emails on previous projects, such as Ghostbusters 2016 and Spectre, as well as NOTORIOUS WAY OF TYPING IN CAP, really makes me question her intelligence and usefulness.

    For me it’s all about Heyman. He’ll save the day.

    Heymen did produce the Harry Potter films and paddington but both of those as far as i know dont require an on hand producer the way Bond does/did

    Again love or hate Babs but she was involved in bond since what 1981ish as was most of the EON family so unless you were a Connery purist you cant deny that all our fave films were EON based


    I cant shake the feeling Amazon will give us a bizare never say never again kind of alternate universe bond film.

    Look denis is a step in the right direction but he is also an EON hold over

    I hope it works out and i will see it but honestly unless something drastic changes first light is the only thing of 007 i am excited about

    Well, we've had that for the last 30 years.

    Classic Bond ended with LTK.

    Even NSNA has Connery and Fleming, which is more than many modern movies have.

    And I don't know why being a Connery purist is any worse than being an EON purist.

    The brosnan and Craig eras had films based off the fleming books so unsure what you are talking about

    Craig? sometimes, Brosnan not so much. At least from a purist point of view.

    LTK was already a movie made with leftovers, but after that there's almost nothing left.

    Yes, we have Casino Royale and films loosely "inspired" by Fleming at best.


    Thats not entirely true

    Goldeneye was based on Moonraker
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    The world is not enough is based on for your eyes only (short story)
    Die another day is moonraker again
    Casino Royale is well casino royale
    Quantum of solace is a weird mixture of that short story and live and let die
    Skyfall is based on the man with the golden gun
    Spectre is based on Octopussy and thunderball
    And
    No time to die is an adaptation of You Only Live Twice

    All fleming works and yeah

    Then NSNA is a truly faithful adaptation.

    Who said it wasnt?

    Well, we were talking about an alternate universe of Bond films and that basically describes the last 30 years of movies.

    Any minimal reference to Fleming seems huge now.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,784
    Forever And Ever.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,597
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    How so?
    I mean with some minimal effort I could probably work it out, but that's not going to happen so I'm curious to know how TND is based on the novel TSWLM?
  • Posts: 9,993
    NicNac wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    How so?
    I mean with some minimal effort I could probably work it out, but that's not going to happen so I'm curious to know how TND is based on the novel TSWLM?

    Well as we all know legally they cant adapt it however they have sort of adapted 3 times

    1. The title and the character of Jaws in the spy who loved me
    2. The big action sequence of the book is in for your eyes only

    As for tomorrow never dies

    I always felt Elliot carver was basically based on Kurt from the novel and paris was viviane

    As we know from the novel Kurt was a paper boy Carver owns a media empire (which he started as a paper boy)

    When vivian tells the reader why she slept with kurt “because he told me he loved me” when Bond asks Paris why she married Carver “because he told me he loved me”

    Both paris and vivian talk about how bond sleeps with a gun under his pillow

    Again this all could be coincidences and even now no one wants to be sued so i doubt Bruce would come forward and admit to adapting the spy who loved me but to me tomorrow never dies was always an adaptation of the spy who loved me and i felt like part of a secret club when i made those connections
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,572
    I do kind of wonder if the story about Fleming forbidding them from adapting it was definitely true. I'm not sure where it comes from.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,784
    How And Why.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 18 Posts: 18,572
    Never To Be Seen Again

    A Bullet With Your Name
  • RyanRyan Canada
    Posts: 749
    mtm wrote: »
    I do kind of wonder if the story about Fleming forbidding them from adapting it was definitely true. I'm not sure where it comes from.

    It's mentioned in the John Cork documentary. I can't remember offhand if it's touched upon at all in the Some Kind Of Hero book, but that at least tells me there must be some truth to it.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,784
    mtm wrote: »
    Never To Be Seen Again

    A Bullet With Your Name

    Love them!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,572
    Ah thank you!
  • Risico007 wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    How so?
    I mean with some minimal effort I could probably work it out, but that's not going to happen so I'm curious to know how TND is based on the novel TSWLM?

    2. The big action sequence of the book is in for your eyes only

    I'm confused. What action scene is this? In the book, Bond shoots at the goons while they try to torch the motel; and in one scene he quick draws from his pillow to kill the remaining thug.

    In For Your Eyes Only there's no such action scene: the helicopter chase, ski chase, beach run-in, submarine action, and final climbing climax have nothing (or very little) to do with Fleming. The Gonzales mansion raid, keel-hauling sequence and the Kristatos raid all adapt aspects, but from FYEO, LALD, and Risico respectively.
  • Posts: 9,993
    Risico007 wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    How so?
    I mean with some minimal effort I could probably work it out, but that's not going to happen so I'm curious to know how TND is based on the novel TSWLM?

    2. The big action sequence of the book is in for your eyes only

    I'm confused. What action scene is this? In the book, Bond shoots at the goons while they try to torch the motel; and in one scene he quick draws from his pillow to kill the remaining thug.

    In For Your Eyes Only there's no such action scene: the helicopter chase, ski chase, beach run-in, submarine action, and final climbing climax have nothing (or very little) to do with Fleming. The Gonzales mansion raid, keel-hauling sequence and the Kristatos raid all adapt aspects, but from FYEO, LALD, and Risico respectively.

    The goons try to get away bond takes stance shoots the wheel and i believe the car flies off the cliff

    In the film bond pushes the car off the cliff
  • edited July 18 Posts: 456
    That's from the short story Risico.
    The man was Kristatos.

    Bond knelt. He held his gun in both hands for steadiness, inched swiftly round the corner of the building and fired one shot at the man's feet. He missed. Almost as he saw the dust kick up inches off the target, there was the rumbling crack of an explosion and the tin wall hit him and sent him flying.

    Bond scrambled to his feet. The warehouse had buckled crazily out of shape. Now it started to collapse noisily like a pack of tin cards. Kristatos was in the car. It was already twenty yards away, dust fountaining up from the traction on the rear wheels. Bond stood in the classic pistol-shooting pose and took careful aim. The Walther roared and kicked three times. At the last shot, at fifty yards, the figure crouched over the wheel jerked backwards. The hands flew sideways off the wheel. The head craned briefly into the air and slumped forward. The right hand remained sticking out as if the dead man was signalling a right-hand turn. Bond started to run up the road, expecting the car to stop, but the wheels were held in the ruts and, with the weight of the dead right foot still on the accelerator, the Lancia tore onwards in its screaming third gear. Bond stopped and watched it. It hurried on along the flat road across the burned-up plain and the cloud of white dust blew gaily up behind. At any moment Bond expected it to veer off the road, but it did not, and Bond stood and saw it out of sight into the early morning mist that promised a beautiful day.

    Admittedly, the car in TSWLM ends up in a lake, but Bond doesn't shoot them, and anyway the film is based on Risico anyway.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    The Dreams of Avarice.
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    Forever And Ever.

    I kinda like Forever and Never. Sounds the same verbalized, but a bit of a subversion.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,784
    Forever And Ever.

    I kinda like Forever and Never. Sounds the same verbalized, but a bit of a subversion.

    Yeah. It works too.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,597
    Risico007 wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Tomorrow never dies was based on the spy who loved me (novel)
    How so?
    I mean with some minimal effort I could probably work it out, but that's not going to happen so I'm curious to know how TND is based on the novel TSWLM?

    Well as we all know legally they cant adapt it however they have sort of adapted 3 times

    1. The title and the character of Jaws in the spy who loved me
    2. The big action sequence of the book is in for your eyes only

    As for tomorrow never dies

    I always felt Elliot carver was basically based on Kurt from the novel and paris was viviane

    As we know from the novel Kurt was a paper boy Carver owns a media empire (which he started as a paper boy)

    When vivian tells the reader why she slept with kurt “because he told me he loved me” when Bond asks Paris why she married Carver “because he told me he loved me”

    Both paris and vivian talk about how bond sleeps with a gun under his pillow

    Again this all could be coincidences and even now no one wants to be sued so i doubt Bruce would come forward and admit to adapting the spy who loved me but to me tomorrow never dies was always an adaptation of the spy who loved me and i felt like part of a secret club when i made those connections

    Very good indeed. I haven't read the book in years but these are excellent points and are certainly more than coincidental.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    'Sky' becomes the new 'gold'; the new 'die'.

    James Bond returns

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