Denis Villeneuve Announced as Bond 26 Director

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Univex wrote: »
    @Univex I agree. The only thing Villeneuve has to do now, is let Zimmer know he's scoring the film, so he prepares better for the music :)

    I agree. So we don't get another lackluster over-the-knee score like the one he did, yes, I agree, he needs time to do something special. Although, I don't know if I wouldn't prefer another sound, something different. It's like with the cast, I'd rather have no returning member. Clean slate, for everything, that'd be my general choice. But hey, I wouldn't be adverse to Zimmer returning. And I hope they'll choose someone punchier for the theme song, something strong and catchy, and upbeat in a sense.

    Yeah. I wanted Ludwig Göransson. But it's Villeneuve, so it means it's Zimmer as well. Plus, Amazon being careful with James Bond, would want Zimmer too...since he already familiar with Bond.

    Very good point, I could see you being right about that.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    @Univex I agree. The only thing Villeneuve has to do now, is let Zimmer know he's scoring the film, so he prepares better for the music :)

    I agree. So we don't get another lackluster over-the-knee score like the one he did, yes, I agree, he needs time to do something special. Although, I don't know if I wouldn't prefer another sound, something different. It's like with the cast, I'd rather have no returning member. Clean slate, for everything, that'd be my general choice. But hey, I wouldn't be adverse to Zimmer returning. And I hope they'll choose someone punchier for the theme song, something strong and catchy, and upbeat in a sense.

    Yeah. I wanted Ludwig Göransson. But it's Villeneuve, so it means it's Zimmer as well. Plus, Amazon being careful with James Bond, would want Zimmer too...since he already familiar with Bond.

    Very good point, I could see you being right about that.

    Yeah. It's looking that way.
  • Posts: 146
    Univex wrote: »
    So, we've got fabulous new producers, one of the best directors ever, the promise of they continuing our beloved films, and we what? Complain?
    There would have been several directors I would have been happy with (Edgar Wright for example). But with Villeneuve it looks like we will get another dark, slow, overlong and mostly humourless movie, and I'm tired of this. Yes, I like movies like "Blade Runner 2049", but I don't want a Bond movie to be like that, especially not after the Craig era.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Villeneuve will deliver quality, no doubt about that. But it won't be '70s Guy Hamilton.

    It also won't be TLD/GE type middle-ground, let's be honest.

    True. I guess they will continue the overall more serious, gritty style. Then again, Villeneuve may decide to break away from his own style. We'll have to see.
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    More gritty Bond please Mr Villeneuve in the same vein of the Craig era.
  • edited 12:47pm Posts: 5,501
    I mean, I wouldn't call the last three Craig films 'gritty' necessarily, at least compared to his first two. From SF onwards the films embraced many of those Bond tropes that hadn't quite been used in CR/QOS (Q, Moneypenny, gadgets, a megalomanic villain in a lair etc). By NTTD there was a lot of fantastical, even sci fi type stuff in there. The humour had definitely been amped up quite a bit by SF. They had that darker, more fatalistic side to them too, but they weren't bleak either. There's more to it than 'Craig films bleak, serious and gritty'.

    I doubt we're going to get something like CR or QOS, for example. Or even SF. I highly doubt we'll see Bond getting a daughter and dying again like in NTTD, and I suspect the Bond/Blofeld subplot is not going to be reused. Bond 26 will be a different story. So in large part it'll be very different.

    Will there be ideas in this one that'll overlap with the Craig era? I suspect so. And why not? Some of the ideas of Craig's last three were present in some of Brosnan's, so it's not without precedent. And ultimately Bond's a rather cyclical franchise. Ideas tend to crop up again, different takes on specific characters and plots emerge etc.
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    I hate the word gritty. I don't think Blade Runner was gritty. Sicario? Maybe. But Villeneuve can do lush and epic.

    Also, can we have a character like Sylvia Hoeks played in BR49, please? A femme fatale? He can surely do that. He directs villainy very well.

    And the humor will be up to the screenwriters, I suppose, with the right balance, we'll have something that could be very different from the Craig era. Not that I would complain about the best of the Craig era: great directors, great production values, ...

    What we can't have again is bad writing, convoluted forced continuity, cringeworthy special effects, bad editing,... And THAT, Villeneuve would never do.

    Plus, it will be gorgeous to watch, that's for sure.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, I wouldn't call the last three Craig films 'gritty' necessarily, at least compared to his first two. From SF onwards the films embraced many of those Bond tropes that hadn't quite been used in CR/QOS (Q, Moneypenny, gadgets, a megalomanic villain in a lair etc). By NTTD there was a lot of fantastical, even sci fi type stuff in there. The humour had definitely been amped up quite a bit by SF. They had that darker, more fatalistic side to them too, but they weren't bleak either. There's more to it than 'Craig films bleak, serious and gritty'.

    Yeah the way he's a big fan of Bond suggests to me that he obviously knows and appreciates the films, and thinks Craig was amazing, so hopefully that means he'd be looking to make something which is identifiably a Bond film. But that does mean.. jokes. He must've done jokes but I struggle to remember any in his films! :)
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    If the release date is late 2027 or even late 2028 is the earliest a Bond director has been officially announced? At least in the last 30 years.

    Martin Campbell for Casino or Sam Mendes with Skyfall maybe?
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, I wouldn't call the last three Craig films 'gritty' necessarily, at least compared to his first two. From SF onwards the films embraced many of those Bond tropes that hadn't quite been used in CR/QOS (Q, Moneypenny, gadgets, a megalomanic villain in a lair etc). By NTTD there was a lot of fantastical, even sci fi type stuff in there. The humour had definitely been amped up quite a bit by SF. They had that darker, more fatalistic side to them too, but they weren't bleak either. There's more to it than 'Craig films bleak, serious and gritty'.

    Yeah the way he's a big fan of Bond suggests to me that he obviously knows and appreciates the films, and thinks Craig was amazing, so hopefully that means he'd be looking to make something which is identifiably a Bond film. But that does mean.. jokes. He must've done jokes but I struggle to remember any in his films! :)

    I remember one in BR2049 and one in Dune: part 1 so I’m guessing we’ll get a joke in the new 007 film.
  • edited 12:43pm Posts: 5,501
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, I wouldn't call the last three Craig films 'gritty' necessarily, at least compared to his first two. From SF onwards the films embraced many of those Bond tropes that hadn't quite been used in CR/QOS (Q, Moneypenny, gadgets, a megalomanic villain in a lair etc). By NTTD there was a lot of fantastical, even sci fi type stuff in there. The humour had definitely been amped up quite a bit by SF. They had that darker, more fatalistic side to them too, but they weren't bleak either. There's more to it than 'Craig films bleak, serious and gritty'.

    Yeah the way he's a big fan of Bond suggests to me that he obviously knows and appreciates the films, and thinks Craig was amazing, so hopefully that means he'd be looking to make something which is identifiably a Bond film. But that does mean.. jokes. He must've done jokes but I struggle to remember any in his films! :)

    Next Floor - a short he did in 2008 - is a dark comedy. It's quite twisted and the humour black, but it's there. Other than that I can only think of smaller, lighter moments in his more dramatic films between characters, not full on comedy necessarily.

    That said he's a director who's worked within different genres, so I think he's used to adapting himself to story conventions. And honestly, adding humour is one of the things writers are for when it comes to Bond.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited 1:05pm Posts: 3,285
    True, Villeneuve's hardly known for humour, but the deadpan black humour of QOS would (for me) be more than welcome.
    'You shot him at point-blank range and threw him off a roof.'
    'I tried my best not to.'
    Even the wryness of 'I've just shown someone your watch' in NTTD. That's all it needs.
    I'm relieved that it's Villeneuve - it pretty much guarantees that we're not going to get a travesty and it's likely that there'll only be minimal lowest common denominator about it too. I do get what people have said about Villeneuve's pacing and the need for Bond films to be more dynamic than, say, Sicario, but some of that film's atmosphere and the brooding sense of real danger just behind the surface would (again, for me) be more than welcome in a Bond film too. I was with those on here who hoped that Bond 26 would be more like Matera and Jamaica than Cuba - and with Villeneuve directing, the odds of that have probably increased substantially. Have to say, I didn't at all trust Amazon to make the right decisions, so I'm pleasantly surprised today.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited 1:01pm Posts: 6,030
    It's interesting. I understand the subjectiveness of the specific choice, but I can't help but notice that those who've been begging Bond 26 to move ahead and get rolling are still finding things to complain about. We have a director for Bond 26, whether you like Villeneuve or not, surely it's just *swear word* amazing to have finally have a creative at the helm?
  • edited 1:12pm Posts: 5,501
    Denbigh wrote: »
    It's interesting. I understand the subjectiveness of the specific choice, but I can't help but notice that those who've been begging Bond 26 to move ahead and get rolling are still finding things to complain about. We have a director for Bond 26, whether you like Villeneuve or not, surely it's just *swear word* amazing to have finally have a creative at the helm?

    I suspect there would have been complaining no matter who the director ended up being ;)

    I'm somewhat sympathetic incidentally. Villeneuve's films often aren't my cup of tea. But he's clearly experienced and a first rate director. Objectively, I can see from his films that making a Bond movie is within his capabilities. Who knows? Maybe the film will even be brilliant.

    There's a lot to be excited about.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,327
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    If the release date is late 2027 or even late 2028 is the earliest a Bond director has been officially announced? At least in the last 30 years.

    Martin Campbell for Casino or Sam Mendes with Skyfall maybe?

    Well Danny Boyle got announced in mid 2018 and NTTD came out late 2021... X_X
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,808
    mtm wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    If the release date is late 2027 or even late 2028 is the earliest a Bond director has been officially announced? At least in the last 30 years.

    Martin Campbell for Casino or Sam Mendes with Skyfall maybe?

    Well Danny Boyle got announced in mid 2018 and NTTD came out late 2021... X_X

    Haha oh yeah I forgot about that one mate

    I'm still surprised we've got a director at this seemingly early stage. Exciting times
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    edited 1:44pm Posts: 4,744
    mtm wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    If the release date is late 2027 or even late 2028 is the earliest a Bond director has been officially announced? At least in the last 30 years.

    Martin Campbell for Casino or Sam Mendes with Skyfall maybe?

    Well Danny Boyle got announced in mid 2018 and NTTD came out late 2021... X_X

    The initial release was November 2019, then February 2020 and then April 2020. 18 months delay not a fault of the timeline itself.

    Personally, it has to be fall 2027. That leaves the rest of this year and all of 2026 for Amazon to get a script written and nail down potential castings.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Just really hoping the mentions and jokes about Timothee Chalamet remain just that. He's probably the last person I want as Bond.
    I think Villeneuve is talented and it should be a beautiful film. EON was definitely looking towards him. I'm quite relieved actually. But nervous about casting Bond more than anything else now.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited 1:55pm Posts: 2,721
    I must say Amazon have surprised us with all the right decisions. I think they've secretly looked at all of EON's Bond films and said "We'll top EON by hiring the very best talents in the world".
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited 2:06pm Posts: 781
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I mean, I wouldn't call the last three Craig films 'gritty' necessarily, at least compared to his first two. From SF onwards the films embraced many of those Bond tropes that hadn't quite been used in CR/QOS (Q, Moneypenny, gadgets, a megalomanic villain in a lair etc). By NTTD there was a lot of fantastical, even sci fi type stuff in there. The humour had definitely been amped up quite a bit by SF. They had that darker, more fatalistic side to them too, but they weren't bleak either. There's more to it than 'Craig films bleak, serious and gritty'.

    Yeah the way he's a big fan of Bond suggests to me that he obviously knows and appreciates the films, and thinks Craig was amazing, so hopefully that means he'd be looking to make something which is identifiably a Bond film. But that does mean.. jokes. He must've done jokes but I struggle to remember any in his films! :)

    Next Floor - a short he did in 2008 - is a dark comedy. It's quite twisted and the humour black, but it's there. Other than that I can only think of smaller, lighter moments in his more dramatic films between characters, not full on comedy necessarily.

    That said he's a director who's worked within different genres, so I think he's used to adapting himself to story conventions. And honestly, adding humour is one of the things writers are for when it comes to Bond.

    Denis Villeneuve's '79 Moonraker, I'm here for it!

    I saw his 2000 film Maelstrom again recently.

    There's a lot of dark, dreamlike, absurdist/existential humour in that. It has a talking fish narrator (literally a gutted fish on a chopping block), whose voice reminds me of the dystopian computer system in Alphaville.

    And in keeping with what we would come to see in the Craig era, there's also lots of emotional wreckage along the way ...

    Not that any of the above is what we should expect in his Bond film.
  • edited 2:10pm Posts: 5,501
    I must say Amazon have surprised us with all the right decisions. I think they've secretly looked at all of EON's Bond films and said "We'll top EON by hiring the very best talents in the world".


    It's early days, but it's a decision I can imagine EON making (from what I understand they'd considered Villeneuve in the past and if rumours are to be believed had spoken to him about directing when they were still at the helm).

    I do wonder how much influence EON had over the decisions of producer and, to a lesser extent, who was approached to direct. BB and MGW would have had to have some reassurance that Bond was in the right hands before relinquishing the creative rights. Obviously Heyman's a top British producer and Pascal worked with them in the past/has that creative and personal connection to them. They were announced very quickly after the deal went through so it'd obviously been negotiated months in advance. And a lot of the rumoured director names had been mentioned when EON were in control.

    Not saying EON are pulling the strings behind the scenes or whatever, but there's every much a 'picking up where they left off' feeling. I suspect their influence will have a bit of resonance in the short term. Or at least for this film.
  • edited 2:07pm Posts: 3,348
    My mate who is a TV director told me Villeneuve was hired back in March, from what he heard on the grapevine within his network, but I didn't believe it until it was official.

    Great news. Things are moving forward. Decent director on board. Now for this bigger obstacle/hurdle to overcome - Bond himself. This is the make or break decision for me.

    I could live with an average director chosen, as long as the right actor is cast. Having Villeneuve on board is all great and well, but if they screw up the casting of Bond himself, with a silly, left-field controversial choice that is going to divide the fan base, then having a great director on board becomes irrelevant.

    Here's hoping we get a decent Bond cast now. Who knows, maybe he has already been chosen?
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    One thing I am looking forward to is that there's a good chance we'll see something weird. Like something properly strange going on with the villain or something. That could become very Fleming-esque, I think.
  • I don’t think Villeneuve will make something overly dark and brooding. Will it have plenty of tension and intense action? Definitely. But considering he’s a lifelong Bond fan who grew up with the Connery films I think he’ll have a lot of nostalgia for recapturing some of those vibes. I think he’ll have a good amount of humor, definitely some cool gadgetry given his experience on Dune, and lots of bright, colorful globetrotting. It certainly won’t be something like Moore or even Brosnan movie. But I’m imagining “modernized Connery” being the target here, with a bit of Craig intensity thrown in, and hopefully some fidelity or nods to the Fleming novels for good measure.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Very pleased with this announcement. He's successfully worked in various genres. It seems Bond is in safe hands. Now we just need a James Bond...
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited 2:24pm Posts: 7,630
    I don’t think Villeneuve will make something overly dark and brooding. Will it have plenty of tension and intense action? Definitely. But considering he’s a lifelong Bond fan who grew up with the Connery films I think he’ll have a lot of nostalgia for recapturing some of those vibes. I think he’ll have a good amount of humor, definitely some cool gadgetry given his experience on Dune, and lots of bright, colorful globetrotting. It certainly won’t be something like Moore or even Brosnan movie. But I’m imagining “modernized Connery” being the target here, with a bit of Craig intensity thrown in, and hopefully some fidelity or nods to the Fleming novels for good measure.

    Replace Craig with Dalton in that sentence and I'm on board ;)
  • weboffearweboffear Scotland
    edited 2:32pm Posts: 66
    Happy with Villeneuve , personally think Blade Runner 2049 and his Two Dune films are masterpieces , but that will have no bearing on whether i like his Bond film , simple question Terence Young , Guy Hamilton , John Glen , Martin Campbell how many of their non Bond films do you like ? All that matters is what Villeneuve does on Bond 26
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited 2:37pm Posts: 781
    I've seen several clips of Villeneuve speaking of his Bond love but never in any detail and only once, I think, even name-checking a film [Casino Royale].

    I don't think he's ever publicly addressed what his Bond would be like ... but on the basis of BR49 & Dune [two other subjects carried forward from child/teen-hood] I'd guess it'll be quite reverent and maybe a little portentous ....
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    weboffear wrote: »
    Happy with Villeneuve , personally think Blade Runner 2049 and his Two Dune films are masterpieces , but that will have no bearing on whether i like his Bond film , simple question Terence Young , Guy Hamilton , John Glen , Martin Campbell how many of their non Bond films do you like ? All that matters is what Villeneuve does on Bond 26

    Just to answer your question: I love Campbell's The Mask of Zorro and from Hamilton I really liked Evil Under the Sun and Funeral in Berlin. Thought Hamilton's Battle of Britain and Force 10 from Navarone were decent too.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    So is this the secret project that needs to see the light of day quite quickly that the director was quoted about? Kind of exciting. I bet we get 2027 or summer 2028.
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